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FC: PSU TKE closes house for 201718 school year

Not unusual. Had it happen to a buddy of mine back in the day. They were made "instant alumni" and they then did something called "recolonization". This was not at PSU, BTW.
 
Not unusual. Had it happen to a buddy of mine back in the day. They were made "instant alumni" and they then did something called "recolonization". This was not at PSU, BTW.
The below is directly referenced in the letter and makes it somewhat germane to other ongoing board discussions.

"Moreover, due to the system-wide fall-out from the Beta Theta Pi tragedy and the resultant review of existing and promulgation of new regulations being formulated by the University, we believe a year of reconsideration to refresh and recharge the values, traditions, mission and commitment to fraternalism of Pi Chapter TKE is both healthy and advisable."
 
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They are closing the house/building for a year, not the chapter/organization.
 
They are closing the house/building for a year, not the chapter/organization.
Just a timeout from house life for what some might call a bit of bad behavior. The article refers to it as "a lengthy list of transgressions."

"The announcement from House Corporation President Thomas Becker specified a lengthy list of transgressions, including: the actives and their guests continuing damage and disrespect of the property and its contents to an extent never seen or experienced before, particularly during the fall semester; the failure to abide by TKE and Pi Chapter traditions, standards, rules & regulations; the late return of housing contracts and other required documents; the late payment and non-payment of financial obligations by too many members; many police visits to the property; violations of State College Borough ordinances and Pennsylvania statutes at the property; IFC and University Office of Fraternity and Sorority Life sanctions and fines for inappropriate or disallowed activities on fraternity property; and the board’s perception that, despite having many outstanding individual members, there was a lack of group acceptance of responsibility and accountability for too many of these failures & problems."
 
Well, that was before the forward thinking, life saving keg ban.


THat is a lame excuse because underage drinking, serving minors, hazing is also against the law and university policy.

BEta was just a bunch of morons that should have gone to Pitt.
 
Wow, Interesting stuff.

Having been a part of the Greek scene in the early/mid 80's I do not remember any deaths. I remember lots of hazing, lots of beer but not so much forced drinking of hard liquor. Am I wrong? Feel free to correct me.
This is a lifestyle I cannot relate to. I was not in a fraternity but did live in a downtown apartment my senior year with 4 friends. Our beverage of choice was Mountain Dew. We occasionally had a rum and Coke but we were all over 21 at the time. None of us ever got drunk. We had terrific times together and, being sober, we remembered them. I am not being critical. Everyone has to take their own path into adulthood. I just want to point out that you don't need to get sloshed in order to enjoy your college experience.
 
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Wow, Interesting stuff.

Having been a part of the Greek scene in the early/mid 80's I do not remember any deaths. I remember lots of hazing, lots of beer but not so much forced drinking of hard liquor. Am I wrong? Feel free to correct me.
I was Greek in that same time period. I remember a lawsuit against TKE after a drunk student died in a car accident after leaving a TKE party. The story is they got a bunch of witnesses to confirm the student got trashed at a dorm party before going out to TKE and didn't have anything to drink there. The lawsuit was dropped. NOTE: This is all based on my 30 plus year memory of the incident.

I was at my fraternity golf outing this past weekend (we're across the street from TKE) and the rumor is there was a significant amount of counterfeit bills found in their house. Not sure if that is just a rumor or one of the "transgressions"!?
 
I was just up for my house's 100th anniversary and the TKE situation was discussed. By closing the house, the TKE Property Association has the ability to determine who will and who will not be allowed back in the house. That is their intention as well. Fraternities will have zero leeway for any violation, so they intend to clean out the bad apples.
 
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I listened to the segment on Smerconish this morning with the attorney for the family. i doubt that Frat ever opens back up at PSU.
 
I was just up for my house's 100th anniversary and the TKE situation was discussed. By closing the house, the TKE Property Association has the ability to determine who will and who will not be allowed back in the house. That is their intention as well. Fraternities will have zero leeway for any violation, so they intend to clean out the bad apples.


Does not make much sense . In theory they could clean out the bad apples without closing the house . Closing the house does not guarantee positive results either.
 
Does not make much sense . In theory they could clean out the bad apples without closing the house . Closing the house does not guarantee positive results either.
They are also doing renovations. Without seeing the condition of the property and going by the report of the "transgressions," the house might be in pretty bad shape and in need of a shutdown and makeover.
 
This is a lifestyle I cannot relate to. I was not in a fraternity but did live in a downtown apartment my senior year with 4 friends. Our beverage of choice was Mountain Dew. We occasionally had a rum and Coke but we were all over 21 at the time. None of us ever got drunk. We had terrific times together and, being sober, we remembered them. I am not being critical. Everyone has to take their own path into adulthood. I just want to point out that you don't need to get sloshed in order to enjoy your college experience.
I don't know about the Mountain Dew in your "collegiate years", but the stuff today is so full of sugar and caffeine that it should be regulated.

Sugar = 46 grams
Caffeine = 54 grams
 
Just a timeout from house life for what some might call a bit of bad behavior. The article refers to it as "a lengthy list of transgressions."

"The announcement from House Corporation President Thomas Becker specified a lengthy list of transgressions, including: the actives and their guests continuing damage and disrespect of the property and its contents to an extent never seen or experienced before, particularly during the fall semester; the failure to abide by TKE and Pi Chapter traditions, standards, rules & regulations; the late return of housing contracts and other required documents; the late payment and non-payment of financial obligations by too many members; many police visits to the property; violations of State College Borough ordinances and Pennsylvania statutes at the property; IFC and University Office of Fraternity and Sorority Life sanctions and fines for inappropriate or disallowed activities on fraternity property; and the board’s perception that, despite having many outstanding individual members, there was a lack of group acceptance of responsibility and accountability for too many of these failures & problems."
There are now two quality fraternity properties that might be of value to PSU insiders. Any TKE brothers on the BOT who might have influenced this decision as a first step toward eventually purchasing the property?
 
I listened to the segment on Smerconish this morning with the attorney for the family. i doubt that Frat ever opens back up at PSU.
Beta?

If so, that's already been determined

Beta-PSU is not "suspended"....... they are "terminated"
 
They are also doing renovations. Without seeing the condition of the property and going by the report of the "transgressions," the house might be in pretty bad shape and in need of a shutdown and makeover.


Did you see the condition of the house before the current brothers moved in?
When is the last time the house was renovated?

The point being the condition of the house and the transgressions could have taken place over decades.
 
Did you see the condition of the house before the current brothers moved in?
When is the last time the house was renovated?

The point being the condition of the house and the transgressions could have taken place over decades.
So?
 
I don't know about the Mountain Dew in your "collegiate years", but the stuff today is so full of sugar and caffeine that it should be regulated.

Sugar = 46 grams
Caffeine = 54 grams
It was probably the same then, but the 4 of us had so little money we could each only afford a couple of cans a week.
 
I don't know about the Mountain Dew in your "collegiate years", but the stuff today is so full of sugar and caffeine that it should be regulated.

Sugar = 46 grams
Caffeine = 54 grams

Have you looked at a Monster/Rockstar/Redbull/Starbucks DoubleShot lately???

54 grams of caffeine ain't much these days fella,

Hold on to your tampon: an 8oz cup of brewed coffee is about 90mg
 
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In State College Borough, if a fraternity loses university recognition, a relatively recent zoning law closes the fraternity down as no boarding house type properties are permitted. In effect, losing recognition could easily cost a fraternity $1 to $3 million dollars in lost property values. That's a lot of money when you throw in 30 or 40 fraternities. Lawsuits would be sure to fly.
 
Ummm
Have you looked at a Monster/Rockstar/Redbull/Starbucks DoubleShot lately???

54 grams of caffeine ain't much these days fella,

Hold on to your tampon: an 8oz cup of brewed coffee is about 90mg
Ummm 54grams of caffeine would be a lethal dose.
 
I can't say anything. I think I might have witnessed stuff just as bad during my high school senior week in Ocean City, NJ in 1978.
Was it you guys that made it a "dry town" or were you guys just outlaws back then? :)

We did our damage at Wildwood Crest in the early '90's. The police were only involved when an accomplice decided to fight a parking meter at 2 am. :oops:
 
Again, Greek life is a relic and a distraction. I did more than my fair share of drinking in college... even as a premed. Still have a shirt from a drinking olympics when I ripped 7 beer bongs, did a lengthy keg stand, and "won" two pitcher races after already having drank for hours beforehand. At another drinking "olympics" we ran obstacle courses and chugged liquor drinks, etc. this was for fun and not forced. I can't fathom drinking because some asshole said I had to...

Forced drinking of liquor is an absurdity and inexcusable. The volume required for poisoning is too small. Not sure how, but this has to be stopped.
 
Was it you guys that made it a "dry town" or were you guys just outlaws back then? :)

We did our damage at Wildwood Crest in the early '90's. The police were only involved when an accomplice decided to fight a parking meter at 2 am. :oops:
Just outlaws. I believe Ocean County was dry from its founding in the 19th century. At least that's what I remember my mother, a proud teetotaler who grew up in Gloucester, NJ, telling me. The drinking age in NJ in 1978 was 18 and Somers Point not far away.
 
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Just outlaws. I believe Ocean County was dry from its founding in the 19th century. At least that's what I remember my mother, a proud teetotaler who grew up in Gloucester, NJ, telling me. The drinking age in NJ in 1978 was 18 and Somers Point not far away.
Great place. We vacation there every summer with the kids and I'm very familiar with Somers Point! ;)

There's some good eats and spirits right across the bridge.
 
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