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Federal investigators' findings in Sandusky case near release

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The results of this investigation should be cute. Are the three 'amigos' at fault for delay and cover-up :rolleyes:, Joe :rolleyes:....? WOW, how will this affect CCS's up coming, future or never trial? I was under the impression that the Dep of Ed fined PSU or cleared PSU three or four years ago.
Federal investigators' findings in Sandusky case near release
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Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky arrives at the Centre County Courthouse for an appeals hearing about whether he was improperly convicted four years ago, in Bellefonte, Pa. Friday, Aug. 12, 2016.
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Nearly five years after they began scouring Penn State records, federal investigators are close to releasing findings about the university's adherence to campus-safety laws in the years leading up to the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal.

Officials with the U.S. Department of Education “hope to have something to release on this in the next 10-14 days,” a spokesman told the Tribune-Review about the sweeping investigation of security measures implemented on the University Park campus before allegations of the former assistant football coach molesting boys broke publicly in November 2011.

A jury in June 2012 convicted Sandusky of sexually abusing 10 boys in and around Penn State facilities between 1998 and 2009. Federal investigators want to determine whether Penn State complied with the Clery Campus Safety and Security Act, a 1990 law that, among other things, requires colleges to establish policies and procedures for reporting crime and to issue timely warnings of danger on and around campuses.

Their goal: to determine whether allegations against Sandusky were reported as required and included in campus crime reports.

Ultimately, many wonder whether that might have halted the abuse years before 32 men came forward, claiming to have been victimized as youths by the former coach. To date, the school and its insurers have paid $93 million to settle their claims.

The Department of Education forwarded preliminary findings of its Clery investigation to Penn State in July 2013, and the investigation remains open as Sandusky appeals his criminal conviction, charges still loom against three top university administrators accused of failing to report allegations and at least five civil suits remain active.

Quick action commended

Penn State will not discuss any of its Clery responses until the Education Department releases its review, said Lawrence Lokman, the school's vice president for strategic communications.

But Penn State acted quickly after the scandal broke to beef up its campus safety program. Within weeks, the school hired a Clery compliance officer and instituted wide-ranging training programs for mandated reporters.

“Penn State, to the best of my knowledge, still has the most robust training and collection process in the country, and that is a direct result of Sandusky and the Clery investigation. And I give them credit for that,” said S. Daniel Carter, a campus safety consultant who has worked on Clery issues since the law's inception and testified before Congress.

Such comments bear witness to Penn State's efforts.

“We aspire to be a leader in Clery Act compliance and have significantly strengthened our programs since 2011,” Lokman said. “The university has multiple initiatives focused on fighting sexual assault and misconduct, including mandatory employee training and a universal hot line. We regularly review and analyze best practices, and incorporate our learnings into our operations and practices.”

Six-figure fines

Just what may be at stake for Penn State in the ongoing federal investigation remains unclear.

Federal records show the Education Department has never invoked the law's ultimate sanction of prohibiting a school from participating in federal student-aid programs.

The Clery Act, however, does allow fines of up to $27,500 for any violation at Penn State. The period under review spans 1998 to 2011.

“How many violations they may find is unknowable,” Carter said.

Penn State likely has spent the past three years answering issues referenced in the 2013 preliminary report, he said.

The department imposed six-figure fines against at least 11 schools over the past 16 years, a 2014 report showed. The Eastern Michigan University paid a record fine of $350,000 in 2008 for failing for 10 weeks to report a coed's death as a rape-murder.

For years, it was an open secret that compliance with the law's annual reporting requirements varied dramatically from one college to the next.

Experts in campus policing and security said that has changed over the past five years — due in part to publicity surrounding high-profile cases such as the Sandusky scandal and enhanced compliance efforts by the federal government.

“There has been a complete evolution from it being a statistical report of crimes that comes out of a police department to an all-encompassing report on policies and reports from all resources across campus,” said Randy Burba, president of the International Association of Campus Law Enforcement Agencies. “Campuses are much more taking the committee approach and making sure all departments are working together to comply with regulations and have an accurate and timely report produced every year.”

The Department of Education has beefed up its outreach to college law enforcement agencies, said Burba, chief of public safety at Chapman University in Orange, Calif.

At the same time, Carter said the agency added resources when it restructured in 2011 and that investigations have increased.

“The Clery Act compliance division has been as busy as they ever have been,” Carter said, adding that complex cases like Penn State's can require years to resolve.

Debra Erdley is a Tribune-Review staff writer. Reach her at 412-320-7996 or
 
My thoughts also, I'm assuming you talking about the two remaining charges the State is bringing against CC&S.
yes, I believe the remaining charges will be dropped. Also, I do believe the charges against the three should be dropped as it was not a conspiracy or cover up.
 
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This is going to do nothing to help us.

The Department of Education is going to talk about rules and procedures- did the University had all the "I"s dotted and "T"s crossed in regards to the Clery Act. They will no doubt find a bunch of technical violations in how training and reporting and tracking was done, because that's what they are looking for, and it will all play badly in the press- as always.
 
This is going to do nothing to help us.

The Department of Education is going to talk about rules and procedures- did the University had all the "I"s dotted and "T"s crossed in regards to the Clery Act. They will no doubt find a bunch of technical violations in how training and reporting and tracking was done, because that's what they are looking for, and it will all play badly in the press- as always.
No question. Face it, news like this has never been good.
 
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Given the drip/drip/drip of bad news, and given that the administration NEVER even tries to correct the public interpretation of these things, I still wonder why the hell they bothered to honor Joe's first team last month. It just seems weird that they did that. Maybe some big donor forced them to do it?
 
The results of this investigation should be cute. Are the three 'amigos' at fault for delay and cover-up :rolleyes:, Joe :rolleyes:....? WOW, how will this affect CCS's up coming, future or never trial? I was under the impression that the Dep of Ed fined PSU or cleared PSU three or four years ago.
Federal investigators' findings in Sandusky case near release
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Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky arrives at the Centre County Courthouse for an appeals hearing about whether he was improperly convicted four years ago, in Bellefonte, Pa. Friday, Aug. 12, 2016.
Photo by AP

Nearly five years after they began scouring Penn State records, federal investigators are close to releasing findings about the university's adherence to campus-safety laws in the years leading up to the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal.

Officials with the U.S. Department of Education “hope to have something to release on this in the next 10-14 days,” a spokesman told the Tribune-Review about the sweeping investigation of security measures implemented on the University Park campus before allegations of the former assistant football coach molesting boys broke publicly in November 2011.

A jury in June 2012 convicted Sandusky of sexually abusing 10 boys in and around Penn State facilities between 1998 and 2009. Federal investigators want to determine whether Penn State complied with the Clery Campus Safety and Security Act, a 1990 law that, among other things, requires colleges to establish policies and procedures for reporting crime and to issue timely warnings of danger on and around campuses.

Their goal: to determine whether allegations against Sandusky were reported as required and included in campus crime reports.

Ultimately, many wonder whether that might have halted the abuse years before 32 men came forward, claiming to have been victimized as youths by the former coach. To date, the school and its insurers have paid $93 million to settle their claims.

The Department of Education forwarded preliminary findings of its Clery investigation to Penn State in July 2013, and the investigation remains open as Sandusky appeals his criminal conviction, charges still loom against three top university administrators accused of failing to report allegations and at least five civil suits remain active.

Quick action commended

Penn State will not discuss any of its Clery responses until the Education Department releases its review, said Lawrence Lokman, the school's vice president for strategic communications.

But Penn State acted quickly after the scandal broke to beef up its campus safety program. Within weeks, the school hired a Clery compliance officer and instituted wide-ranging training programs for mandated reporters.

“Penn State, to the best of my knowledge, still has the most robust training and collection process in the country, and that is a direct result of Sandusky and the Clery investigation. And I give them credit for that,” said S. Daniel Carter, a campus safety consultant who has worked on Clery issues since the law's inception and testified before Congress.

Such comments bear witness to Penn State's efforts.

“We aspire to be a leader in Clery Act compliance and have significantly strengthened our programs since 2011,” Lokman said. “The university has multiple initiatives focused on fighting sexual assault and misconduct, including mandatory employee training and a universal hot line. We regularly review and analyze best practices, and incorporate our learnings into our operations and practices.”

Six-figure fines

Just what may be at stake for Penn State in the ongoing federal investigation remains unclear.

Federal records show the Education Department has never invoked the law's ultimate sanction of prohibiting a school from participating in federal student-aid programs.

The Clery Act, however, does allow fines of up to $27,500 for any violation at Penn State. The period under review spans 1998 to 2011.

“How many violations they may find is unknowable,” Carter said.

Penn State likely has spent the past three years answering issues referenced in the 2013 preliminary report, he said.

The department imposed six-figure fines against at least 11 schools over the past 16 years, a 2014 report showed. The Eastern Michigan University paid a record fine of $350,000 in 2008 for failing for 10 weeks to report a coed's death as a rape-murder.

For years, it was an open secret that compliance with the law's annual reporting requirements varied dramatically from one college to the next.

Experts in campus policing and security said that has changed over the past five years — due in part to publicity surrounding high-profile cases such as the Sandusky scandal and enhanced compliance efforts by the federal government.

“There has been a complete evolution from it being a statistical report of crimes that comes out of a police department to an all-encompassing report on policies and reports from all resources across campus,” said Randy Burba, president of the International Association of Campus Law Enforcement Agencies. “Campuses are much more taking the committee approach and making sure all departments are working together to comply with regulations and have an accurate and timely report produced every year.”

The Department of Education has beefed up its outreach to college law enforcement agencies, said Burba, chief of public safety at Chapman University in Orange, Calif.

At the same time, Carter said the agency added resources when it restructured in 2011 and that investigations have increased.

“The Clery Act compliance division has been as busy as they ever have been,” Carter said, adding that complex cases like Penn State's can require years to resolve.

Debra Erdley is a Tribune-Review staff writer. Reach her at 412-320-7996 or

A lot has to do with the Departments of Defense and State. We have a great deal of Federal defense contracts. Sure Defense doesn't want them messed-up!
 
IMO this will have no impact on the criminal cases. That said, I would imagine Beemer is taking a very close look at whether or not to drop the charges. Let's face it - no AG wants these cases. These were the Corbett/Kelly cases, the charges were clearly ill conceived and the new AG, whoever it is, does not need this hanging over their heads.
Beemer is now Wolf's guy and if Wolf wants to clear the deck for the next AG Beemer would be the one to do it as he goes back to his job as IG in January. He would suffer no career issues as a result of the decision.
Now, if it looks like the R will win the AG race, maybe Wolf wants to force that person to do the dirty work. But IMO the timing for a dismissal of all charges has never been as good as it will be from now until January.
 
my feeling is this will show that they complied with the law and remaining charges will than be dropped.
I think you are being far too optimistic. Let's just be happy that PSU is where it needs to be now in terms of compliance to the Clery Act.
 
IMO this will have no impact on the criminal cases. That said, I would imagine Beemer is taking a very close look at whether or not to drop the charges. Let's face it - no AG wants these cases. These were the Corbett/Kelly cases, the charges were clearly ill conceived and the new AG, whoever it is, does not need this hanging over their heads.
Beemer is now Wolf's guy and if Wolf wants to clear the deck for the next AG Beemer would be the one to do it as he goes back to his job as IG in January. He would suffer no career issues as a result of the decision.
Now, if it looks like the R will win the AG race, maybe Wolf wants to force that person to do the dirty work. But IMO the timing for a dismissal of all charges has never been as good as it will be from now until January.

Beemer recently filed to retain more felony charges (arguing that the Superior Court only dismissed 1 conspiracy count and not 3). He's been with this case from the beginning. I think he wants to keep it going. Now his successor, whoever that may be, could be a different story.
 
Beemer recently filed to retain more felony charges (arguing that the Superior Court only dismissed 1 conspiracy count and not 3). He's been with this case from the beginning. I think he wants to keep it going. Now his successor, whoever that may be, could be a different story.

I agree. Beemer is not going to drop the charges. He's the guy who told Kane to keep pursuing it.
 
They will undoubtedly find violations the same as they would at 100% of any other University or large corporation as it is difficult to follow every possible law/rule in their intricacy all the time. These will be generally small in nature but the crowd that wants PSU crucified will get yet another chance to tweet and write articles for a week how bad PSU is.
 
This is going to do nothing to help us.

The Department of Education is going to talk about rules and procedures- did the University had all the "I"s dotted and "T"s crossed in regards to the Clery Act. They will no doubt find a bunch of technical violations in how training and reporting and tracking was done, because that's what they are looking for, and it will all play badly in the press- as always.


This ^^^. My guess is this Fed review has very little to do with CSS and those surrounding events. This will be totally focused on Clery compliance and fines. I'm certainly not an expert on Clery rules but if they refer to events on campus with regard to JS then how many events are they focused on? 2001? 1998 was an event at Central Mountain HS IIRC. Now there may be other cases involving crime reporting in other issues too - who knows?
 
Given the drip/drip/drip of bad news, and given that the administration NEVER even tries to correct the public interpretation of these things, I still wonder why the hell they bothered to honor Joe's first team last month. It just seems weird that they did that. Maybe some big donor forced them to do it?

That would be Sue shaming them.
 
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I agree. Beemer is not going to drop the charges. He's the guy who told Kane to keep pursuing it.
I should have been more clear. IMO Beemer will do what he is told by Wolf. Maybe Wolf stays out of it and if so certainly Beemer will not drop charges on his own. But Beemer will not be around when it's time to take the cases to court so it's not as if he would be prosecuting the cases.
But I would think the new AG, regardless of which party, would love to see these cases disposed of before they take office and it seems reasonable to think that after Nov 8 conversations will take place between the AG elect and Gov.
 
Some food for thought from my perspective:

I thought Spanier had previously been cleared by the feds in their background checks for him to continue to work on defense related projects? It will be interesting if the report from dept of education addresses that.

I believe the poster "PhillipintheValley" posted on the premium board a year of so ago that the university had submitted their final draft to the feds and they were expecting a 7 figure fine from the feds. If he's on this board he can correct me.

Regardless of the true facts of this case, one can argue that psu is basically a creation of the federal government from the Morrill Land Grant act (that pretty much established psu and other state schools) to the hundreds of millions it benefits from in federal research dollars. Just like the mafia, if you take money from Leviathan they own you and they will never pass up a chance to squeeze you for a free pay day.

I can't speak to the criminal charges, but I can't believe this case has dragged on for as long as it has - truly a waste of tax payer money. If beemer has refiled on the felony charges then that just tells me the state doesn't have a case and is wasting time until a new attorney general is in office. At this point, Boccabella (sp?) would be doing everyone a favor if he rules to drop all remaining charges, including quashing any refile be beemer (if Boccabella can rule on that - the lawyers on the board can advise).

my feeling is this will show that they complied with the law and remaining charges will than be dropped.
 
The results of this investigation should be cute. Are the three 'amigos' at fault for delay and cover-up :rolleyes:, Joe :rolleyes:....? WOW, how will this affect CCS's up coming, future or never trial? I was under the impression that the Dep of Ed fined PSU or cleared PSU three or four years ago.
Federal investigators' findings in Sandusky case near release
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Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky arrives at the Centre County Courthouse for an appeals hearing about whether he was improperly convicted four years ago, in Bellefonte, Pa. Friday, Aug. 12, 2016.
Photo by AP

Nearly five years after they began scouring Penn State records, federal investigators are close to releasing findings about the university's adherence to campus-safety laws in the years leading up to the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal.

Officials with the U.S. Department of Education “hope to have something to release on this in the next 10-14 days,” a spokesman told the Tribune-Review about the sweeping investigation of security measures implemented on the University Park campus before allegations of the former assistant football coach molesting boys broke publicly in November 2011.

A jury in June 2012 convicted Sandusky of sexually abusing 10 boys in and around Penn State facilities between 1998 and 2009. Federal investigators want to determine whether Penn State complied with the Clery Campus Safety and Security Act, a 1990 law that, among other things, requires colleges to establish policies and procedures for reporting crime and to issue timely warnings of danger on and around campuses.

Their goal: to determine whether allegations against Sandusky were reported as required and included in campus crime reports.

Ultimately, many wonder whether that might have halted the abuse years before 32 men came forward, claiming to have been victimized as youths by the former coach. To date, the school and its insurers have paid $93 million to settle their claims.

The Department of Education forwarded preliminary findings of its Clery investigation to Penn State in July 2013, and the investigation remains open as Sandusky appeals his criminal conviction, charges still loom against three top university administrators accused of failing to report allegations and at least five civil suits remain active.

Quick action commended

Penn State will not discuss any of its Clery responses until the Education Department releases its review, said Lawrence Lokman, the school's vice president for strategic communications.

But Penn State acted quickly after the scandal broke to beef up its campus safety program. Within weeks, the school hired a Clery compliance officer and instituted wide-ranging training programs for mandated reporters.

“Penn State, to the best of my knowledge, still has the most robust training and collection process in the country, and that is a direct result of Sandusky and the Clery investigation. And I give them credit for that,” said S. Daniel Carter, a campus safety consultant who has worked on Clery issues since the law's inception and testified before Congress.

Such comments bear witness to Penn State's efforts.

“We aspire to be a leader in Clery Act compliance and have significantly strengthened our programs since 2011,” Lokman said. “The university has multiple initiatives focused on fighting sexual assault and misconduct, including mandatory employee training and a universal hot line. We regularly review and analyze best practices, and incorporate our learnings into our operations and practices.”

Six-figure fines

Just what may be at stake for Penn State in the ongoing federal investigation remains unclear.

Federal records show the Education Department has never invoked the law's ultimate sanction of prohibiting a school from participating in federal student-aid programs.

The Clery Act, however, does allow fines of up to $27,500 for any violation at Penn State. The period under review spans 1998 to 2011.

“How many violations they may find is unknowable,” Carter said.

Penn State likely has spent the past three years answering issues referenced in the 2013 preliminary report, he said.

The department imposed six-figure fines against at least 11 schools over the past 16 years, a 2014 report showed. The Eastern Michigan University paid a record fine of $350,000 in 2008 for failing for 10 weeks to report a coed's death as a rape-murder.

For years, it was an open secret that compliance with the law's annual reporting requirements varied dramatically from one college to the next.

Experts in campus policing and security said that has changed over the past five years — due in part to publicity surrounding high-profile cases such as the Sandusky scandal and enhanced compliance efforts by the federal government.

“There has been a complete evolution from it being a statistical report of crimes that comes out of a police department to an all-encompassing report on policies and reports from all resources across campus,” said Randy Burba, president of the International Association of Campus Law Enforcement Agencies. “Campuses are much more taking the committee approach and making sure all departments are working together to comply with regulations and have an accurate and timely report produced every year.”

The Department of Education has beefed up its outreach to college law enforcement agencies, said Burba, chief of public safety at Chapman University in Orange, Calif.

At the same time, Carter said the agency added resources when it restructured in 2011 and that investigations have increased.

“The Clery Act compliance division has been as busy as they ever have been,” Carter said, adding that complex cases like Penn State's can require years to resolve.

Debra Erdley is a Tribune-Review staff writer. Reach her at 412-320-7996 or



 
my feeling is this will show that they complied with the law and remaining charges will than be dropped.

Me thinks you're being a little too optimistic.

I believe the poster "PhillipintheValley" posted on the premium board a year of so ago that the university had submitted their final draft to the feds and they were expecting a 7 figure fine from the feds. If he's on this board he can correct me.

A reminder that the Rivals TOS include that info disclosed on a PT board can not be disclosed on a free board.

On the broader scale, PSU did receive a draft of the report, and was given a chance to respond to it. I haven't heard how PSU responded, or how/if the DOE responded to PSU's response. The indications I got were that the draft indicated a huge fine for PSU.
 
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The results of this investigation should be cute. Are the three 'amigos' at fault for delay and cover-up :rolleyes:, Joe :rolleyes:....? WOW, how will this affect CCS's up coming, future or never trial? I was under the impression that the Dep of Ed fined PSU or cleared PSU three or four years ago.
Federal investigators' findings in Sandusky case near release
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Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky arrives at the Centre County Courthouse for an appeals hearing about whether he was improperly convicted four years ago, in Bellefonte, Pa. Friday, Aug. 12, 2016.
Photo by AP

Nearly five years after they began scouring Penn State records, federal investigators are close to releasing findings about the university's adherence to campus-safety laws in the years leading up to the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal.

Officials with the U.S. Department of Education “hope to have something to release on this in the next 10-14 days,” a spokesman told the Tribune-Review about the sweeping investigation of security measures implemented on the University Park campus before allegations of the former assistant football coach molesting boys broke publicly in November 2011.

A jury in June 2012 convicted Sandusky of sexually abusing 10 boys in and around Penn State facilities between 1998 and 2009. Federal investigators want to determine whether Penn State complied with the Clery Campus Safety and Security Act, a 1990 law that, among other things, requires colleges to establish policies and procedures for reporting crime and to issue timely warnings of danger on and around campuses.

Their goal: to determine whether allegations against Sandusky were reported as required and included in campus crime reports.

Ultimately, many wonder whether that might have halted the abuse years before 32 men came forward, claiming to have been victimized as youths by the former coach. To date, the school and its insurers have paid $93 million to settle their claims.

The Department of Education forwarded preliminary findings of its Clery investigation to Penn State in July 2013, and the investigation remains open as Sandusky appeals his criminal conviction, charges still loom against three top university administrators accused of failing to report allegations and at least five civil suits remain active.

Quick action commended

Penn State will not discuss any of its Clery responses until the Education Department releases its review, said Lawrence Lokman, the school's vice president for strategic communications.

But Penn State acted quickly after the scandal broke to beef up its campus safety program. Within weeks, the school hired a Clery compliance officer and instituted wide-ranging training programs for mandated reporters.

“Penn State, to the best of my knowledge, still has the most robust training and collection process in the country, and that is a direct result of Sandusky and the Clery investigation. And I give them credit for that,” said S. Daniel Carter, a campus safety consultant who has worked on Clery issues since the law's inception and testified before Congress.

Such comments bear witness to Penn State's efforts.

“We aspire to be a leader in Clery Act compliance and have significantly strengthened our programs since 2011,” Lokman said. “The university has multiple initiatives focused on fighting sexual assault and misconduct, including mandatory employee training and a universal hot line. We regularly review and analyze best practices, and incorporate our learnings into our operations and practices.”

Six-figure fines

Just what may be at stake for Penn State in the ongoing federal investigation remains unclear.

Federal records show the Education Department has never invoked the law's ultimate sanction of prohibiting a school from participating in federal student-aid programs.

The Clery Act, however, does allow fines of up to $27,500 for any violation at Penn State. The period under review spans 1998 to 2011.

“How many violations they may find is unknowable,” Carter said.

Penn State likely has spent the past three years answering issues referenced in the 2013 preliminary report, he said.

The department imposed six-figure fines against at least 11 schools over the past 16 years, a 2014 report showed. The Eastern Michigan University paid a record fine of $350,000 in 2008 for failing for 10 weeks to report a coed's death as a rape-murder.

For years, it was an open secret that compliance with the law's annual reporting requirements varied dramatically from one college to the next.

Experts in campus policing and security said that has changed over the past five years — due in part to publicity surrounding high-profile cases such as the Sandusky scandal and enhanced compliance efforts by the federal government.

“There has been a complete evolution from it being a statistical report of crimes that comes out of a police department to an all-encompassing report on policies and reports from all resources across campus,” said Randy Burba, president of the International Association of Campus Law Enforcement Agencies. “Campuses are much more taking the committee approach and making sure all departments are working together to comply with regulations and have an accurate and timely report produced every year.”

The Department of Education has beefed up its outreach to college law enforcement agencies, said Burba, chief of public safety at Chapman University in Orange, Calif.

At the same time, Carter said the agency added resources when it restructured in 2011 and that investigations have increased.

“The Clery Act compliance division has been as busy as they ever have been,” Carter said, adding that complex cases like Penn State's can require years to resolve.

Debra Erdley is a Tribune-Review staff writer. Reach her at 412-320-7996 or
At this point cannot expect anything other than that the media will make into another shit storm, as they pick and choose and sensationalize it all. Especially now that we have a little positive momentum on the field will just be par for the course to have the next negative news cycle....I have pretty much become Eeyore these days......
 
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No question. Face it, news like this has never been good.
Right...they'll have two sentences stating that PSU broke no laws and adhered to the laws in place at the time. The rest of the report, dozens of pages, will be that PSU didn't do enough, without getting into specifics.
 
Is this related to the 300,000 pages Ryan tweeted he was getting access to recently?
 
Me thinks you're being a little too optimistic.



A reminder that the Rivals TOS include that info disclosed on a PT board can not be disclosed on a free board.

On the broader scale, PSU did receive a draft of the report, and was given a chance to respond to it. I haven't heard how PSU responded, or how/if the DOE responded to PSU's response. The indications I got were that the draft indicated a huge fine for PSU.
Does this fine reference the Freeh Report as the evidence? I'm wondering if the Clery folks did their own "investigation" to support fines or whether they relied, instead, on the tried and true "independent investigation" by Freeh that handed over the combination to the PSU safe.
 
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On the broader scale, PSU did receive a draft of the report, and was given a chance to respond to it. I haven't heard how PSU responded, or how/if the DOE responded to PSU's response. The indications I got were that the draft indicated a huge fine for PSU.

Penn State received the DOE's draft report on their Clery Act investigation in July 2013 (over 3 years ago) and Penn State was due to provide a response in March 2014 (over 2 years). I haven't seen much else that's been made public about it (see links below). But based simply on the timeframe involved - that the DOE has spent two and a half years since Penn State's initial response was due - I can't imagine this will be good for the university.

Also, the DOE opened up a second investigation in January 2014 looking at Title IX violations.

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Clery Act Investigation of Penn State

11/9/2011, DOE letter to PSU
http://www.psu.edu/ur/2011/DoE_Letter_110911.pdf

7/17/2012, Federal probe
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...t-violations/2012/07/17/gJQA8swirW_story.html

7/15/2013, PSU gets preliminary DOE report
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2013/07/penn_state_gets_report_on_fede.html

9/25/2013, PSU Clery report is a mixed bag
http://news.psu.edu/story/289094/20...al-security-report-filed-university-mixed-bag

"There is a notable increase in forcible offenses over the past year and much of this can be attributed to previous offenses that are just now being reported, rather than in the year in which they occurred. We believe the overall increase might be due in part to the additional training that we have provided over the past 14 months," said Gabe Gates, the University's Clery compliance manager. Gates also said the additional Clery Act training for 5,000 individuals at Penn State has led to greater awareness, including how to report crimes and the resources that the University may offer victims and witnesses of crime.​

The Clery Act is a federal law related to campus safety that requires colleges and universities to disclose information about crime on and near their respective campuses. Compliance is monitored by the U.S. Department of Education.​

Gates explained that 36 of the 63 forcible sex offenses listed in the 2013 report, which covers the 2012 calendar year, actually occurred in years between the 1970s through 2011. Some of these offenses can be attributed to the crimes of convicted felon Jerry Sandusky, a former assistant coach. In the 2012 report, 30 forcible sex offenses were listed, and 11 of those were attributable to prior year reports as well. Forcible sex offenses include everything from forcibly fondling a person to rape.​

1/25/2014, second DOE investigation, re: Title IX
http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/education/penn-state/article42842061.html

The number of sex offenses reported to Penn State police surged after the Jerry Sandusky child abuse charges, and the U.S. Department of Education is now investigating whether the university properly handled complaints in previous years.​

The department told the Centre Daily Times it launched an “investigation” last week through its Office for Civil Rights, and federal officials will determine if Penn State complied with Title IX, a law that protects people from sex discrimination, by responding “immediately and appropriately” to complaints.​

A Penn State spokeswoman said Saturday the university was informed of a “review” and looked forward to working with the agency.​

What caught the department’s attention was the increase in the number of sex offenses reported to campus authorities between 2011 and 2012. The statistics were released by Penn State in annual security reports that are required as part of the federal Clery Act.​

In 2012, the university received 56 reports of on-campus sex offenses, according to the data. That’s more than double the 24 reports made in 2011 and 14 times the number reported in 2010, when just four cases were charted.​

Sandusky was indicted in November 2011.​

The Education Department said the university’s grievance policy also raised civil rights concerns.​

“Our initial review of Penn State’s sexual harassment policy, compounded by a dramatic increase in the number of forcible sex offenses occurring on campus as reported by the university itself, raised legal concerns that compelled us to investigate,” said Catherine Lhamon, the department’s assistant secretary for civil rights.​

Penn State receives federal funding and is subject to Title IX.​

The department did not cite the Sandusky case in its announcement, although the university used the Sandusky effect as context when it publicized the 2012 Clery Act report in September. The university had said some of the sex offenses reported in 2012 occurred from the 1970s to 2011.​

The university said some of the reports were attributed to crimes by Sandusky, too, and the university also said better training after the Sandusky scandal resulted in an increase in reports.​

The article also provided an update on the Clery Act investigation:

Penn State received the preliminary Clery Act report in July, though its contents have been kept confidential. The university has a March deadline to respond to the findings in the preliminary report.​

4/23/2015, DOE refuses records in Bagwell request
http://www.bagwellforpennstate.com/...ease-54000-pages-of-penn-state-freeh-records/

BWI thread started 2/29/2016
https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/whatever-happened-to-presumed-clery-fine.102240/

4/26/2016, Judge: U.S. Dept. of Ed. can withhold records of #PennState Clery Act investigation

Link to ruling:


It's uncertain if the tweets below from Ryan Bagwell directly relate to the DOE's Clery Act investigation, but it seems as if they are, based on the tweet above.

10/6/2016, A federal judge this afternoon cleared the last hurdle that was preventing 300,000 pages of Sandusky inv. records from being released.


10/6/2016, With any luck, information should start flowing in the next few weeks.
 
Does this fine reference the Freeh Report as the evidence? I'm wondering if the Clery folks did their own "investigation" to support fines or whether they relied, instead, on the tried and true "independent investigation" by Freeh that handed over the combination to the PSU safe.

I don't know anything more about the draft report, or PSU's response, than I posted.
 
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