I think you could add "respect" to the list.I remember when humility was one of those life lessons sports taught younger folks. That seems to all but have disappeared.
I think you could add "respect" to the list.I remember when humility was one of those life lessons sports taught younger folks. That seems to all but have disappeared.
If the guy wants to concede the match without going through a bunch of fakery, let him. He deserves the L, does indeed take the L, and has to live with it. The winner moves on risk-free. We miss 1 desired match in the early going, BFD.
I’d be way more bothered if a guy faked a match, giving the appearance of throwing it. Then we’re left to suspect the worst (shenanigans that actually do cause irreparable harm to the sport).
If a wrestler lays on his back at the opening whistle, is that fair to his next opponent? or the integrity of the sport in general for that matter?But is that fair to his next opponent they may have lost an OT dogfight?
People aren't burying their heads in sand just because they disagree with you that a new rule is needed to fix a thing 1 coach has done twice in 10 years (and I don't know of any instances before that).I don't have THE answer. That said to bury one's head in the sand as if absolutely nothing is wrong with the current system is defeatist and short sighted.
There are definitely tweaks to the system that would improve the current situation and decrease unethical moves by coaches that damage the integrity of the sport.
I’m in the I don’t care camp. I don’t want to screw with a mechanism that works for actually injured wrestlers.Ed Ruth doesn't make the podium in his freshman year with that rule. He injury defaulted in the NCAA quarters.
Reasonable?
I can’t get into the what-if game for his next opponent (or that of the guy he conceded to) in a philosophical discussion about fairness.But is that fair to his next opponent they may have lost an OT dogfight?
Twice in ten years? That's ludicrous. I'll agree to disagree here.People aren't burying their heads in sand just because they disagree with you that a new rule is needed to fix a thing 1 coach has done twice in 10 years (and I don't know of any instances before that).
When else have coaches purposely had their guy forfeit into the consis and then keep wrestling? The two times I can think of are Tom Ryan with Jake and Paddy.Twice in ten years? That's ludicrous. I'll agree to disagree here.
Shenanigans are reserved for the Big12 weigh-ins. A wordsmith of your caliber needs a different go to. Dresser used it first this weekend.If the guy wants to concede the match without going through a bunch of fakery, let him. He deserves the L, does indeed take the L, and has to live with it. The winner moves on risk-free. We miss 1 desired match in the early going, BFD.
I’d be way more bothered if a guy faked a match, giving the appearance of throwing it. Then we’re left to suspect the worst (shenanigans that actually do cause irreparable harm to the sport).
Ryanisms?Shenanigans are reserved for the Big12 weigh-ins. A wordsmith of your caliber needs a different go to. Dresser used it first this weekend.
Sorry man, I wasn’t keeping up with the news. Looks like Jefe has it covered!Shenanigans are reserved for the Big12 weigh-ins. A wordsmith of your caliber needs a different go to. Dresser used it first this weekend.
What if they get into an OT catfight?But is that fair to his next opponent they may have lost an OT dogfight?
Sure they do. If a wrestler gets hurt in a match and can't get to mat for the next match its a FFT. You have had to taken the mat to lose by default.BTW, lol at the mods creating a new thread for this topic and giving it the wrong title.
EDIT: mods corrected the title. It was "Fixing MFFs," which don't exist at conference tournaments.
Not in the context we're discussing here. All of the objectionable matches are 0:01 or 0:02 INJ. None are MFF.Sure they do. If a wrestler gets hurt in a match and can't get to mat for the next match its a FFT. You have had to taken the mat to lose by default.
No context in your post so I responded accordinglyNot in the context we're discussing here. All of the objectionable matches are 0:01 or 0:02 INJ. None are MFF.