For those critical of play calling in 4Q

[PSU Dave]

consider this. We got the ball back at our own 40 with 2 time outs and plenty of time to move into field goal position. Doesn’t matter what plays you call because when the DL is winning the battle upfront the way they were, it’s game over.

That said reinforcements are coming. And man do we need a guy like Parsons coming off the edge.

 

[Richard the LIONhearted]

consider this. We got the ball back at our own 40 with 2 time outs and plenty of time to move into field goal position. Doesn’t matter what plays you call because when the DL is winning the battle upfront the way they were, it’s game over.

That said reinforcements are coming. And man do we need a guy like Parsons coming off the edge.

There was not going to be any Iowa magic last night.

Our ends last year [SCHWAN and SICKLES] did the same thing their ends did this year - clinch the game via sacks.

 

[mgkpsu]

So then don't even bother calling a slant, swing pass, or outside pitch? Ok, Coach.

 

[PSU Dave]

So then don't even bother calling a slant, swing pass, or outside pitch? Ok, Coach.

Coach? Nope. But sounds like your football IQ is better than Franklins. Might as well just give you the 4 million.

 

[Ranger Dan]

consider this. We got the ball back at our own 40 with 2 time outs and plenty of time to move into field goal position. Doesn’t matter what plays you call because when the DL is winning the battle upfront the way they were, it’s game over.

That said reinforcements are coming. And man do we need a guy like Parsons coming off the edge.

The reinforcements (improvement) we need is on the O line and at D tackle.

 

[mgkpsu]

Coach? Nope. But sounds like your football IQ is better than Franklins. Might as well just give you the 4 million.

Quit lecturing. It makes you look like a hand job. Some of us would have preferred a pick 6 and losing by 8 to "Fetal Position on 2" on the second to last possession, and that's OK.

 

[PSU Dave]

Quit lecturing. It makes you look like a hand job. Some of us would have preferred a pick 6 and losing by 8 to "Fetal Position on 2" on the second to last possession, and that's OK.

I suggest you opt for the fecal position

 

[Ct. Lion]

consider this. We got the ball back at our own 40 with 2 time outs and plenty of time to move into field goal position. Doesn’t matter what plays you call because when the DL is winning the battle upfront the way they were, it’s game over.

That said reinforcements are coming. And man do we need a guy like Parsons coming off the edge.

Excellent point regarding the last series. Though I have been critical of the way we played the 4th quarter, the way Ohio State came back against our defense, the play calling when we were on offense, etc., the worst was the four and out series to basically end the game.
This is where we have shined in the past. McSorley passing us down the field, either for a TD or into field goal range if that is all we needed yet Ohio State shut us down.
Four and out from our 40. With the amount of time left, two time outs and from the 40 it would not have been a miracle finish, just business as usual for a two point win.
Ohio State slowly regained composure from an awful start and then took over the game with a fabulous 4th quarter and drive-stopping display of defense at the end.
But the fact is, we were well ahead starting the fourth quarter and should have prevailed. With that lead we should have been able to do enough to win. Therein lies the debate.

 

[basic blues]

Coach? Nope. But sounds like your football IQ is better than Franklins. Might as well just give you the 4 million.

IF our D had been playing even a remotely decent game I might not have such a problem with the 4Q play calling, BUT they were getting abused by OSU and could not get pressure on Barrett. The D was totally gassed and yet we chose to put the game on their shoulders. That game had to be won on the offensive side of the ball...hell we moved the ball on OSU most of the game by just running a normal offense...why get away from that when it mattered most? THAT is why I believe the coaches soiled the sheets. Say what you will but you are not going to change my mind or the minds of many others because we have seen it before

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

Coach? Nope. But sounds like your football IQ is better than Franklins. Might as well just give you the 4 million.

You know what is truly sad about you brain dead apologists. Franklin disagrees with you....... Funniest damn think I have ever witnessed.

 

[PSU Dave]

You know what is truly sad about you brain dead apologists. Franklin disagrees with you....... Funniest damn think I have ever witnessed.

What is truly sad is you know it alls have all the answers when we lose yet when we win all is well. Ohio State was the better team and sometimes you have to tip your cap and move on and try to get better.

 

[basic blues]

What is truly sad is you know it alls have all the answers when we lose yet when we win all is well. Ohio State was the better team and sometimes you have to tip your cap and move on and try to get better.

I don't have all the answers and I'll be th first to admit it. However, if we're going down I want to go down swinging. I want our players given the opportunity to make the game winning plays, not the opposing players. The run plays on O and the "bend but don't break" soft zone on D, when it was clear we were not going to be able to pressure Barrett with our front four, put the game squarely in the hands of OSUs players to win or lose and that is what I don't agree with.

 

[nittany119]

Excellent point regarding the last series. Though I have been critical of the way we played the 4th quarter, the way Ohio State came back against our defense, the play calling when we were on offense, etc., the worst was the four and out series to basically end the game.
This is where we have shined in the past. McSorley passing us down the field, either for a TD or into field goal range if that is all we needed yet Ohio State shut us down.
Four and out from our 40. With the amount of time left, two time outs and from the 40 it would not have been a miracle finish, just business as usual for a two point win.
Ohio State slowly regained composure from an awful start and then took over the game with a fabulous 4th quarter and drive-stopping display of defense at the end.
But the fact is, we were well ahead starting the fourth quarter and should have prevailed. With that lead we should have been able to do enough to win. Therein lies the debate.

You are correct. We should have been able to cloae it out. Let's also keep in mind the quick three and out when we recovered the fumble at mid-field. Had we even gotten a field goal there I think the game was over.

 

[Omar81]

It’s comical reading all these “you can’t criticize ANYTHING that occurs during any football game unless you’re a football coach” posts. One of the most intellectually weak arguments one can make, yet it appears and reappears here countless times each year — if not each week.

 

[PSU Dave]

It’s comical reading all these “you can’t criticize ANYTHING that occurs during any football game unless you’re a football coach” posts. One of the most intellectually weak arguments one can make, yet it appears and reappears here countless times each year — if not each week.

Criticize away. I’m sure our Coaching Staff is waiting with baited breath for Omar81s editorial. I swear if assholes were airplanes this board would be an airport.

 

[Omar81]

Criticize away. I’m sure our Coaching Staff is waiting with baited breath for Omar81s editorial I swear is assholes were airplanes this board would be an airport.

Oh, you’ve overwhelmed me with you misuse of capital letters, lack of punctuation, incorrect spelling, and hackneyed cliche. Congrats — that’s a whole lot of mediocre to cram into less than two lines of content. I’ve wasted too much time already with people ON A PENN STATE FOOTBALL MESSAGE BOARD who don’t want DISCUSSION OF THE PENN STATE V. OHIO STATE FOOTBALL GAME unless it agrees with their opinion or is ballwashing praise of people who make millions of dollars and — though overall we are greatly pleased with their recruiting, coaching and results — are not perfect and therefore not above questioning or criticism.

 

[PSU Dave]

Oh, you’ve overwhelmed me with you misuse of capital letters, lack of punctuation, incorrect spelling, and hackneyed cliche. Congrats — that’s a whole lot of mediocre to cram into less than two lines of content. I’ve wasted too much time already with people ON A PENN STATE FOOTBALL MESSAGE BOARD who don’t want DISCUSSION OF THE PENN STATE V. OHIO STATE FOOTBALL GAME unless it agrees with their opinion or is ballwashing praise of people who make millions of dollars and — though overall we are greatly pleased with their recruiting, coaching and results — are not perfect and therefore not above questioning or criticism.

 

[Omar81]

Hi Dave! Thanks for sharing your picture! I’d do the same but I’m a little more concerned with privacy than you are — too many crazy people on the internet.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

It’s comical reading all these “you can’t criticize ANYTHING that occurs during any football game unless you’re a football coach” posts. One of the most intellectually weak arguments one can make, yet it appears and reappears here countless times each year — if not each week.

Or 'what have you accomplished in life?!' tirades....

 

[PSU Dave]

Hi Dave! Thanks for sharing your picture! I’d do the same but I’m a little more concerned with privacy than you are — too many crazy people on the internet.

Thank you for such an incite fulfilling post.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Summary of Penn State possessions against OSU. We had a lot of success when we a) had Trace (and to a lesser extent Barkley) run *designed* runs, and b) when Trace had time to throw via designed pass plays. Gesicki won a lot more than he lost on Saturday - he should have been our 'go to' on nearly every play. He was targeted five times in the first half (including a 14 yard catch that was negated by penalty) and averaged 8 YPC. He was targeted four times in the second half - two incomplete, and the other two for seven and 22 yards respectively.

Also - even when you include Barkley's 36 yard TD run, and TM's six yard TD run, we averaged 2.3 yards on 1st down when running the ball (which we did 19 times, or 76% of the time on first down). Take those two plays out, and we averaged less than a yard per play when running on first down, and had 9/17 plays go for 0 or negative yards.

Passing on first down was nearly as bad - of our six attempts, three were incomplete, one was for no gain, and the two that did connect did so for five and 21 yards respectively.

1st Quarter
Penn State wins the coin toss and elects to receive.
Ohio State will defend South Goal.
Psu 1-10 at Psu35 OSU ball on OSU35.
96-Nuernberger, S. kickoff 62 yards to the PSU3, 26-Barkley, Saquon return 97 yards to the OSU0, TOUCHDOWN, clock 14:45.
95-Davis, Tyler kick attempt good.
Penn State 7, Ohio State 0
95-Davis, Tyler kickoff 57 yards to the OSU8, 21-Campbell, P. return 17 yards to the OSU25 (4-Scott, Nick;38-Wade, Lamont).

Psu 1-10 at Osu23 PENN STATE drive start at 13:32, PSU ball on OSU23.
Psu 1-10 at Osu23 9-McSorley, Trace pass complete to 26-Barkley, Saquon for 5 yards to the OSU18 (4-Fuller, Jordan).
Psu 2-5 at Osu18 9-McSorley, Trace pass complete to 88-Gesicki, Mike for 9 yards to the OSU9, 1ST DOWN PSU (4-Fuller, Jordan;8-Sheffield, K.).
Psu 1-G at Osu09 26-Barkley, Saquon rush up middle for loss of 4 yards to the OSU13 (93-Sprinkle, Tracy).
Psu 2-G at Osu13 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace I pass incomplete to 5-Hamilton, D. (7-Webb, Damon).
Psu 3-G at Osu13 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace pass complete to 5-Hamilton, D. for 13 yards to the OSU0, TOUCHDOWN, clock 11:36.
95-Davis, Tyler kick attempt good.
Penn State 14, Ohio State 0

Psu 1-10 at Psu25 PENN STATE drive start at 10:11.
Psu 1-10 at Psu25 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace rush up middle for no gain to the PSU25 (17-Baker, Jerome).
Psu 2-10 at Psu25 9-McSorley, Trace pass incomplete to 3-Thompkins, D..
Psu 3-10 at Psu25 9-McSorley, Trace screen pass complete to 26-Barkley, Saquon for 10 yards to the PSU35, 1ST DOWN PSU, out-of-bounds.
Psu 1-10 at Psu35 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace rush over left end for loss of 2 yards to the PSU33 (35-Worley, Chris).
Psu 2-12 at Psu33 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace pass complete to 88-Gesicki, Mike for loss of 2 yards to the PSU31 (6-Hubbard, Sam;17-Baker, Jerome).
Psu 3-14 at Psu31 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace crossing pass incomplete to 88-Gesicki, Mike.
Psu 4-14 at Psu31 93-Gillikin, Blake punt 42 yards to the OSU27, out-of-bounds, PENALTY PSU unsportsmanlike conduct (11-Charles, Irvin) 15 yards to the OSU42, 1st and 10, OSU ball on OSU42.
Drive: 6 plays, 6 yards, TOP 02:35

Psu 1-10 at Psu27 PENN STATE drive start at 04:38.
Psu 1-10 at Psu27 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace rush for no gain to the PSU27 (6-Hubbard, Sam).
Psu 2-10 at Psu27 9-McSorley, Trace sacked for loss of 4 yards to the PSU23 (86-Jones, Dre'Mont).
Psu 3-14 at Psu23 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace middle pass complete to 26-Barkley, Saquon for 8 yards to the PSU31 (17-Baker, Jerome).
Psu 4-6 at Psu31 93-Gillikin, Blake punt 39 yards to the OSU30, 14-Hill, K.J. return 16 yards to the OSU46 (6-Brown, Cam).
Drive: 3 plays, 4 yards, TOP 01:57

2nd Quarter

Psu 1-10 at Psu19 Start of 2nd quarter, clock 15:00.
Psu 1-10 at Psu19 9-McSorley, Trace rush for 6 yards to the PSU25 (4-Fuller, Jordan).
Psu 2-4 at Psu25 9-McSorley, Trace pass complete to 88-Gesicki, Mike for 10 yards to the PSU35, 1ST DOWN PSU (8-Sheffield, K.;17-Baker, Jerome).
Psu 1-10 at Psu35 9-McSorley, Trace pass incomplete to 84-Johnson, Juwan.
Psu 2-10 at Psu35 9-McSorley, Trace pass complete to 84-Johnson, Juwan for 6 yards to the PSU41 (12-Ward, Denzel).
Psu 3-4 at Psu41 9-McSorley, Trace pass complete to 88-Gesicki, Mike for 11 yards to the OSU48, 1ST DOWN PSU.
Psu 1-10 at Osu48 [NHS], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush up middle for 3 yards to the OSU45 (12-Ward, Denzel).
Psu 2-7 at Osu45 9-McSorley, Trace pass incomplete to 1H-Holland, J., PENALTY OSU pass interference (17-Baker, Jerome) 9 yards to the OSU36, 1ST DOWN PSU, NO PLAY.
Psu 1-10 at Osu36 [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush over left end for 36 yards to the OSU0, 1ST DOWN PSU, TOUCHDOWN, clock 11:40.
95-Davis, Tyler kick attempt good.
Penn State 21, Ohio State 3
Drive: 7 plays, 81 yards, TOP 03:27

Psu 1-10 at Osu23 PENN STATE drive start at 09:14.
Psu 1-10 at Osu23 26-Barkley, Saquon rush up middle for 2 yards to the OSU21 (0E-Cornell, Jashon).
Psu 2-8 at Osu21 9-McSorley, Trace pass complete to 88-Gesicki, Mike for 14 yards to the OSU7 (4-Fuller, Jordan), PENALTY PSU YO (88-Gesicki, Mike) 0 yards to the OSU21, NO PLAY.
Psu 3-8 at Osu21 3rd and 9, 9-McSorley, Trace pass intercepted by 7-Webb, Damon at the OSU0, 7-Webb, Damon return to the OSU0, clock 08:11, PENALTY OSU pass interference (3-Arnette, Damon) 15 yards to the OSU6, 1ST DOWN PSU, NO PLAY.
Psu 1-G at Osu06 9-McSorley, Trace rush for 6 yards to the OSU0, TOUCHDOWN, clock 08:06.
95-Davis, Tyler kick attempt good.
Penn State 28, Ohio State 10
Drive: 2 plays, 23 yards, TOP 01:08

Psu 1-10 at Psu30 PENN STATE drive start at 04:52.
Psu 1-10 at Psu30 Clock 04:52, [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace pass incomplete, PENALTY OSU face mask (6-Hubbard, Sam) 15 yards to the PSU45, 1ST DOWN PSU, NO PLAY.
Psu 1-10 at Psu45 Clock 04:44, 9-McSorley, Trace rush Direct Snap to Runner for 1 yard to the PSU46 (33-Booker, Dante).
Psu 2-9 at Psu46 Clock 04:44, 9-McSorley, Trace rush over left end for 8 yards to the OSU46, out-of-bounds.
Psu 3-1 at Osu46 Timeout Ohio State, clock 03:39.
Psu 3-1 at Osu46 Clock 03:39, [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush for 4 yards to the OSU42, 1ST DOWN PSU (35-Worley, Chris).
Psu 1-10 at Osu42 Clock 03:11, [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush over left tackle for 4 yards to the OSU38 (35-Worley, Chris).
Psu 2-6 at Osu38 Clock 02:30, [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace sideline pass incomplete to 5-Hamilton, D..
Psu 3-6 at Osu38 Clock 02:24, [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush over right guard for 2 yards to the OSU36 (97-Bosa, Nick).
Psu 4-4 at Osu36 Deadball foul, PENALTY PSU delay of game 5 yards to the OSU41, NO PLAY.
Psu 4-9 at Osu41 Clock 01:38, 93-Gillikin, Blake punt 27 yards to the OSU14, fair catch by 14-Hill, K.J..
Drive: 6 plays, 29 yards, TOP 03:21

Psu 1-10 at Psu38 PENN STATE drive start at 00:29.
Psu 1-10 at Psu38 Deadball foul, PENALTY PSU delay of game 5 yards to the PSU33, NO PLAY.
Psu 1-15 at Psu33 Clock 00:29, TM-TEAM rush KN for loss of 2 yards to the PSU31.
Psu 2-17 at Psu31 End of half, clock 00:00.
Drive: 1 plays, minus 7 yards, TOP 00:29

3rd Quarter

su 1-10 at Psu30 PENN STATE drive start at 11:34.
Psu 1-10 at Psu30 26-Barkley, Saquon rush up middle for loss of 3 yards to the PSU27 (59-Lewis, Tyquan).
Psu 2-13 at Psu27 [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush over left end for 2 yards to the PSU29, out-of-bounds (7-Webb, Damon),PENALTY PSU holding declined.
Psu 3-11 at Psu29 9-McSorley, Trace rush over right end for 12 yards to the PSU41, 1ST DOWN PSU, out-of-bounds (39-Harrison, Malik).
Psu 1-10 at Psu41 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace pass incomplete to 5-Hamilton, D..
Psu 2-10 at Psu41 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace sideline pass complete to 3-Thompkins, D. for 12 yards to the OSU47, 1ST DOWN PSU, out-of-bounds (3-Arnette, Damon).
Psu 1-10 at Osu47 [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush over left end for 4 yards to the OSU43 (33-Booker, Dante).
Psu 2-6 at Osu43 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace crossing pass complete to 84-Johnson, Juwan for 3 yards to the OSU40 (35-Worley, Chris;8-Sheffield, K.).
Psu 3-3 at Osu40 [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush over right tackle for 4 yards to the OSU36, 1ST DOWN PSU (33-Booker, Dante;59-Lewis, Tyquan).
Penn State (#52) Ryan Bates injured on the play.
Psu 1-10 at Osu36 [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush up middle for loss of 1 yard to the OSU37 (3-Arnette, Damon).
Psu 2-11 at Osu37 9-McSorley, Trace deep pass complete to 3-Thompkins, D. for 37 yards to the OSU0, 1ST DOWN PSU, TOUCHDOWN, clock 07:25.
95-Davis, Tyler kick attempt good.
Penn State 35, Ohio State 20
Drive: 10 plays, 70 yards, TOP 04:13

Psu 1-10 at Psu06 PENN STATE drive start at 03:10.
Psu 1-10 at Psu06 26-Barkley, Saquon rush for loss of 5 yards to the PSU1 (8-Sheffield, K.).
Psu 2-15 at Psu01 9-McSorley, Trace sideline pass complete to 84-Johnson, Juwan for 20 yards to the PSU21, 1ST DOWN PSU, out-of-bounds (17-Baker, Jerome).
Psu 1-10 at Psu21 26-Barkley, Saquon rush for 8 yards to the PSU29 (17-Baker, Jerome;33-Booker, Dante).
Psu 2-2 at Psu29 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace pass incomplete to 88-Gesicki, Mike.
Psu 3-2 at Psu29 26-Barkley, Saquon rush for loss of 4 yards to the PSU25 (4-Fuller, Jordan).
Psu 4-6 at Psu25 93-Gillikin, Blake punt 48 yards to the OSU27, 14-Hill, K.J. return -3 yards to the OSU24 (11-Charles, Irvin).
Drive: 5 plays, 19 yards, TOP 02:42

4th Quarter

Psu 1-10 at Osu42 PENN STATE drive start at 13:13.
Psu 1-10 at Osu42 [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush over right end for loss of 7 yards to the OSU49 (33-Booker, Dante).
Psu 2-17 at Osu49 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace pass incomplete to 5-Hamilton, D. (3-Arnette, Damon).
Psu 3-17 at Osu49 [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush over left end for 6 yards to the OSU43 (39-Harrison, Malik).
Psu 4-11 at Osu43 93-Gillikin, Blake punt BLOCKED, recovered by OSU 33-Booker, Dante at PSU47 (blocked by 12-Ward, Denzel), 33-Booker, Dante for 6 yards to the PSU41 (17-Taylor, Garrett).
Drive: 3 plays, minus 1 yards, TOP 01:34

Psu 1-10 at Psu30 PENN STATE drive start at 11:00.
Psu 1-10 at Psu30 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace pass incomplete to 13-Blacknall, S., QB hurry by 97-Bosa, Nick.
Psu 2-10 at Psu30 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace rush up middle for 23 yards to the OSU47, 1ST DOWN PSU, out-of-bounds (4-Fuller, Jordan).
Psu 1-10 at Osu47 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace crossing pass incomplete to 84-Johnson, Juwan, PENALTY PSU holding (66-McGovern, C.) 10 yards to the PSU43, NO PLAY.
Psu 1-20 at Psu43 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace middle pass complete to 26-Barkley, Saquon for no gain to the PSU43 (17-Baker, Jerome).
Psu 2-20 at Psu43 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace middle pass complete to 88-Gesicki, Mike for 7 yards to the 50 yardline (4-Fuller, Jordan).
Psu 3-13 at Psu50 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace sideline pass complete to 88-Gesicki, Mike for 22 yards to the OSU28, 1ST DOWN PSU (4-Fuller, Jordan).
Psu 1-10 at Osu28 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace pass complete to 13-Blacknall, S. for 21 yards to the OSU7, 1ST DOWN PSU(4-Fuller, Jordan).
Psu 1-G at Osu07 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace rush up middle for 3 yards to the OSU4 (67-Landers, Robert;35-Worley, Chris).
Psu 2-G at Osu04 Clock 07:16, [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace rush for 1 yard to the OSU3 (4-Fuller, Jordan).
Psu 3-G at Osu03 Clock 06:34, [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush up middle for loss of 3 yards to the OSU6 (67-Landers, Robert).
Psu 4-G at Osu06 Clock 05:45, 95-Davis, Tyler field goal attempt from 24 GOOD, clock 05:42.
Penn State 38, Ohio State 27
Drive: 10 plays, 64 yards, TOP 05:23

Psu 1-10 at Psu15 PENN STATE drive start at 04:14.
Psu 1-10 at Psu15 Clock 04:14, 26-Barkley, Saquon rush up middle for loss of 7 yards to the PSU8 (6-Hubbard, Sam).
Psu 2-17 at Psu08 Timeout Ohio State, clock 04:09.
Psu 2-17 at Psu08 Clock 04:09, 26-Barkley, Saquon rush up middle for loss of 2 yards to the PSU6 (67-Landers, Robert).
Psu 3-19 at Psu06 Clock 03:26, [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush over left end for 5 yards to the PSU11 (6-Hubbard, Sam).
Psu 4-14 at Psu11 Timeout Ohio State, clock 03:21.
Psu 4-14 at Psu11 Clock 03:21, 93-Gillikin, Blake punt 57 yards to the OSU32, 14-Hill, K.J. return 10 yards to the OSU42 (47-Smith, Brandon).
Drive: 3 plays, minus 4 yards, TOP 01:07

Psu 1-10 at Psu41 PENN STATE drive start at 01:45.
Psu 1-10 at Psu41 Clock 01:45, [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace sideline pass incomplete to 26-Barkley, Saquon (35-Worley, Chris).
Psu 2-10 at Psu41 Clock 01:40, 9-McSorley, Trace sacked for loss of 5 yards to the PSU36 (11-Holmes, Jalyn).
Psu 3-15 at Psu36 Timeout Penn State, clock 01:34.
Psu 3-15 at Psu36 Clock 01:34, [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace pass incomplete to 88-Gesicki, Mike.
Psu 4-15 at Psu36 Clock 01:29, [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace pass incomplete to 84-Johnson, Juwan.
Drive: 4 plays, minus 5 yards, TOP 00:23

 

[Omar81]

Thank you for such an incite fulfilling post.

Okay, we’ve reached the point where I need subtitles to understand what you’re saying. Bueller? Bueller? Anybody?

 

[PSU Dave]

Okay, we’ve reached the point where I need subtitles to understand what you’re saying. Bueller? Bueller? Anybody?

 

[NittanyOpp]

Psu 1-G at Osu07 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace rush up middle for 3 yards to the OSU4 (67-Landers, Robert;35-Worley, Chris).
Psu 2-G at Osu04 Clock 07:16, [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace rush for 1 yard to the OSU3 (4-Fuller, Jordan).
Psu 3-G at Osu03 Clock 06:34, [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush up middle for loss of 3 yards to the OSU6 (67-Landers, Robert).

This was the game. Prior they passed the ball down the field and made big plays. I don't see the O line being a problem then. Only went they went into the shell and became overly predictable did those deficiencies rear its head. Foot off gas just like Rose Bowl. The beauty of the PSU offense is there are so many weapons and the RPO allows Trace the ability to make a play with his arm or legs. When you take the P out of it you are handicapping yourself.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Psu 1-G at Osu07 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace rush up middle for 3 yards to the OSU4 (67-Landers, Robert;35-Worley, Chris).
Psu 2-G at Osu04 Clock 07:16, [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace rush for 1 yard to the OSU3 (4-Fuller, Jordan).
Psu 3-G at Osu03 Clock 06:34, [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush up middle for loss of 3 yards to the OSU6 (67-Landers, Robert).

This was the game. Prior they passed the ball down the field and made big plays. I don't see the O line being a problem then. Only went they went into the shell and became overly predictable did those deficiencies rear its head. Foot off gas just like Rose Bowl. The beauty of the PSU offense is there are so many weapons and the RPO allows Trace the ability to make a play with his arm or legs. When you take the P out of it you are handicapping yourself.

Yeah - their starting CB's go 5'10" and 5'11", and their safeties go 6'0" and 6'2". We could run a WR set like this:

Johnson - 6'4"
Gesicki - 6'6"
Charles - 6'4"
Blacknall - 6'3"

Seems like a good time to put the ball where they have a better chance of getting it than the defender....

 

[canuckhal]

consider this. We got the ball back at our own 40 with 2 time outs and plenty of time to move into field goal position. Doesn’t matter what plays you call because when the DL is winning the battle upfront the way they were, it’s game over.

That said reinforcements are coming. And man do we need a guy like Parsons coming off the edge.

It really was like a reversal of last year in the fourth quarter.

 

[canuckhal]

It’s comical reading all these “you can’t criticize ANYTHING that occurs during any football game unless you’re a football coach” posts. One of the most intellectually weak arguments one can make, yet it appears and reappears here countless times each year — if not each week.

Posters can criticize all they want, but it won't change anything. The staff could've done this, they could've done that. They should have a fullback and two TEs. It doesn't matter, The game is over. You have no way of knowing the result would have been different. It is armchair QBing that riles me up as if the posters know better than the staff and either state or imply that Franklin and Moorhead suck or are bad coaches, but yet claim to be supportive. Last week, it was all great, this week it is all bad. I get the frustration, but get over it. PSU lost. Now onto Michigan State.

Now if you want to provide some analysis of why a certain call didn't work and what might have worked better, okay. But just spouting off is not going to win me over. If you want to say, man, am I ever disappointed. Guess what so was I. But the team played hard, the team was well prepared, mistakes were made, and one team took the game over in the 4th quarter. It happens. If you are going to gloat when PSU wins and are going to melt down every time they don't, well, good luck to you.

I'm going to root for the team win or lose, and that means rooting for the staff until such a time they no longer deserve it. Franklin and his staff have earned my respect and support.

 

[uhlerlion]

consider this. We got the ball back at our own 40 with 2 time outs and plenty of time to move into field goal position. Doesn’t matter what plays you call because when the DL is winning the battle upfront the way they were, it’s game over.

That said reinforcements are coming. And man do we need a guy like Parsons coming off the edge.

Really your hangin your hat on desperation time?

#1 please give the number of plays netting positive yards the entire game on RPO versus those that were negative as a ratio to plays ran
#2 please since you seem to speaking from a coaches perspective, tell me how you identify game flow and not have your nose or a$$ stuck in a chart to run a particular play because the chart says so?

( this is in reference for #2. You do realize that when OSU fumbled, that not only did Barrett on his knees hung his head [ as in he just realized he blew the game], not only did a mass exodus of their fan base ensue [I saw it I was there], PSU with the ball in OSU territory ran what series of 3 plays before "the punt") Please remind me how the offensive play calling was genius.

Psu 1-10 at Osu42 PENN STATE drive start at 13:13.
Psu 1-10 at Osu42 [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush over right end for loss of 7 yards to the OSU49 (33-Booker, Dante).
Psu 2-17 at Osu49 [Shotgun], 9-McSorley, Trace pass incomplete to 5-Hamilton, D. (3-Arnette, Damon).
Psu 3-17 at Osu49 [Shotgun], 26-Barkley, Saquon rush over left end for 6 yards to the OSU43 (39-Harrison, Malik).



You do realize if PSU even gets a field goal ---as in just gets 1 st down and to get into easy FG territory--- and subsequently kicks off--- the game is won long before your described scenario. It matters what plays you call when the other team is down and out not when they just rallied themselves and their fans and went ahead for the first time in the game I was there there is a BIG DIFFERENCE in that stadium between those two moments.

 

[mgkpsu]

Posters can criticize all they want, but it won't change anything. The staff could've done this, they could've done that. They should have a fullback and two TEs. It doesn't matter, The game is over. You have no way of knowing the result would have been different. It is armchair QBing that riles me up as if the posters know better than the staff and either state or imply that Franklin and Moorhead suck or are bad coaches, but yet claim to be supportive. Last week, it was all great, this week it is all bad. I get the frustration, but get over it. PSU lost. Now onto Michigan State.

Now if you want to provide some analysis of why a certain call didn't work and what might have worked better, okay. But just spouting off is not going to win me over. If you want to say, man, am I ever disappointed. Guess what so was I. But the team played hard, the team was well prepared, mistakes were made, and one team took the game over in the 4th quarter. It happens. If you are going to gloat when PSU wins and are going to melt down every time they don't, well, good luck to you.

I'm going to root for the team win or lose, and that means rooting for the staff until such a time they no longer deserve it. Franklin and his staff have earned my respect and support.

I think the point is that some of the coaching tendencies need to change going forward, or else the ceiling will be a second tier team with a coach earning in the first tier. So the criticism isn't pointless.

 

[bdgan]

consider this. We got the ball back at our own 40 with 2 time outs and plenty of time to move into field goal position. Doesn’t matter what plays you call because when the DL is winning the battle upfront the way they were, it’s game over.

That said reinforcements are coming. And man do we need a guy like Parsons coming off the edge.

I think we need Parsons at LB.

 

[fairfaxlion2]

I think the point is that some of the coaching tendencies need to change going forward, or else the ceiling will be a second tier team with a coach earning in the first tier. So the criticism isn't pointless.

But we are not a second-tier team, unless you believe that first-tier is only the top two. We've been in the top 10 since the beginning of last November.

 

[bdgan]

Yeah - their starting CB's go 5'10" and 5'11", and their safeties go 6'0" and 6'2". We could run a WR set like this:

Johnson - 6'4"
Gesicki - 6'6"
Charles - 6'4"
Blacknall - 6'3"

Seems like a good time to put the ball where they have a better chance of getting it than the defender....

Exactly.

Aside from the goal line... OSU was attacking the QB with 8 defenders. Against Michigan we spit Gesicki & Barkley wide so they couldn't attack the middle with so many players. On Saturday Barkley always came back by McSorley's side and Gesicki was often kept in too.

 

[mgkpsu]

But we are not a second-tier team, unless you believe that first-tier is only the top two. We've been in the top 10 since the beginning of last November.

There is the top 4 and everyone else.

 

[mgkpsu]

Exactly.

Aside from the goal line... OSU was attacking the QB with 8 defenders. Against Michigan we spit Gesicki & Barkley wide so they couldn't attack the middle with so many players. On Saturday Barkley always came back by McSorley's side and Gesicki was often kept in too.

I saw nothing innovative last night. Too many middle runs, and outside throws. Completely bass ackwards.

 

[djr4rebs]

After this game, I am left to wonder about our DL recruits we are currently redshirting. Hansard in particular was very highly rated and has the size to play. Can he not contribute now? Our rotation is already down two at DE. We could slide Givens out and insert somebody like Hansard in.

Back to the redshirt argument: if he's good enough to play next year, he probably isn't going to be around for five years to make the redshirt worthwhile.

Take LB. I'd feel better if Brooks got some garbage time snaps this year over Cooper and Johnson. And if he's that far behind them, even as a freshman, we are hurting anyhow.

We've deployed this at CB with Wade and TCF seeing a lot of playing time, even though secondary has been our strongest unit. Why not apply this at the other spots? DT is wide open next year after the Cothrans graduate.