Former CIA & State Dept Official Larry C. Johnson: Ukraine’s Army has been Defeated; all that is left is Mop-Up

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Name one thing Larry said that was inaccurate. Since this article was published Russia has continued to grind away and secured 4 oblasts which have officially joined Russia. All that’s left of Ukraine now is a rump state.

It was actually an incredibly accurate and insightful article. He never predicted any dates only that all russia had left to do was grind out the AFU via precision missiles, artillery, etc. and that’s exactly what they’ve done.

LOL. No. Not even close to reality.
 
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LOL. No. Not even close to reality.
So you can’t name a single thing? It should be easy to do according to you.

Lets look at msm predictions:
- there will be an internal revolt against Putin - never happened
- russia will run out of men - never happened
- russia will run out of missiles, artillery, etc. - never hap
- russia wont capture any meaningful territory - definitely did happen

I could go on and on and on. You’re being played by a very large western msm propaganda effort. Lemme guess you believed the same msm when they claimed Trump was a russian agent?? Bahahaa!
 

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So you can’t name a single thing? It should be easy to do according to you.

Lets look at msm predictions:
- there will be an internal revolt against Putin - never happened
- russia will run out of men - never happened
- russia will run out of missiles, artillery, etc. - never hap
- russia wont capture any meaningful territory - definitely did happen

I could go on and on and on. You’re being played by a very large western msm propaganda effort. Lemme guess you believed the same msm when they claimed Trump was a russian agent?? Bahahaa!
WeR, this is a good source of info re: Ukraine

The War Zone
 
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WeR, this is a good source of info re: Ukraine

The War Zone
Thanks. I like to look at multiple sources from both sides.

To balance things out you should look at these sources:



 

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So you can’t name a single thing? It should be easy to do according to you.

Lets look at msm predictions:
- there will be an internal revolt against Putin - never happened
- russia will run out of men - never happened
- russia will run out of missiles, artillery, etc. - never hap
- russia wont capture any meaningful territory - definitely did happen

I could go on and on and on. You’re being played by a very large western msm propaganda effort. Lemme guess you believed the same msm when they claimed Trump was a russian agent?? Bahahaa!
They are running out of men. Their call up of 300,000 was cut to 220,000 because over a million men left the country! And they are putting newly drafted men on the front line with only ten days of very poor training. Many are already dead.

And they had to rely on Iran and N Korea for weapons. And are using ground to air anti-aircraft missiles to attack ground targets because......they ran out of missiles. Yep, running out of missiles.

They gained ground early and are now losing ground during this ‘mop up’ operation. And have lost huge amounts of materials within Crimea....once a safe haven. Even their prize bridge......the ‘wedding band’ between Russia and Crimea.....was blown up. Lost the Muskov, the flagship of the Black Sea fleet......and the rest of the fleet is in hiding.

I could go on and on. This great victory is looking more and more like our ‘highly successful’ withdrawal from Afghanistan. A few more victories like this and even that revolt against Putin will become reality.
 

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They are running out of men. Their call up of 300,000 was cut to 220,000 because over a million men left the country! And they are putting newly drafted men on the front line with only ten days of very poor training. Many are already dead.

And they had to rely on Iran and N Korea for weapons. And are using ground to air anti-aircraft missiles to attack ground targets because......they ran out of missiles. Yep, running out of missiles.

They gained ground early and are now losing ground during this ‘mop up’ operation. And have lost huge amounts of materials within Crimea....once a safe haven. Even their prize bridge......the ‘wedding band’ between Russia and Crimea.....was blown up. Lost the Muskov, the flagship of the Black Sea fleet......and the rest of the fleet is in hiding.

I could go on and on. This great victory is looking more and more like our ‘highly successful’ withdrawal from Afghanistan. A few more victories like this and even that revolt against Putin will become reality.
Lulz! And whats the source for all of this ^^^ info? Western msm/thinktanks? The russia gate neocons who are obsessed with attacking Russia?

The bridge was already operational again within like a day or two. When you need to hype up tiny short lived victories like the bridge things aren’t going well. Remember the ghost of kiev story? Snake island? All bullshit propaganda bc they were so desperate for good news. Ukraine is done. They are the ones running out of able bodied men. Russia is no where close to running out of anything. These are facts from the ground. You live in an echo chamber.
 

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Lulz! And whats the source for all of this ^^^ info? Western msm/thinktanks? The russia gate neocons who are obsessed with attacking Russia?

The bridge was already operational again within like a day or two. When you need to hype up tiny short lived victories like the bridge things aren’t going well. Remember the ghost of kiev story? Snake island? All bullshit propaganda bc they were so desperate for good news. Ukraine is done. They are the ones running out of able bodied men. Russia is no where close to running out of anything. These are facts from the ground. You live in an echo chamber.
The bridge is limited to a single lane in each direction now. And the psychological impact of the hit is huge. Note you didn’t challenge anything else......
 

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The bridge is limited to a single lane in each direction now. And the psychological impact of the hit is huge. Note you didn’t challenge anything else......
Wow they really showed them! All the bridge attack did was galvanize support around Putin's position and they didn't even fully take it out, great job!

All the other stuff you listed is hope porn bs pushed by the neocon thinktanks. You didn't mention what your sourcing was....so I assume it's from western msm. It's a FACT that Russia isn't close to running out of men or anything else, as you mentioned they have mobilized hundreds of thousands if not more that can be ready to go at a moments notice. Ukraine is having to hunt people down and FORCE them to join the fight. That says a lot. How many men has Ukraine been able to mobilize recently? The Azov nazi psychos getting taken out at Mariupol removed their best soldiers and that was months ago.
 

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Wow they really showed them! All the bridge attack did was galvanize support around Putin's position and they didn't even fully take it out, great job!

All the other stuff you listed is hope porn bs pushed by the neocon thinktanks. You didn't mention what your sourcing was....so I assume it's from western msm. It's a FACT that Russia isn't close to running out of men or anything else, as you mentioned they have mobilized hundreds of thousands if not more that can be ready to go at a moments notice. Ukraine is having to hunt people down and FORCE them to join the fight. That says a lot. How many men has Ukraine been able to mobilize recently? The Azov nazi psychos getting taken out at Mariupol removed their best soldiers and that was months ago.
Bridge is very limited...light trucks and cars. Rail ......one line and doesn’t appear to operational. So less than half prior capacity. Putinstan mobilization failed and guys are rushed to the combat zone with worthless training, little equipment, poor leadership. Guys are being killed ten days after being drafted.....some are surrendering as soon as deployed.....that’s being ‘ready to go at a moment’s notice’?
 

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guys are rushed to the combat zone with worthless training, little equipment, poor leadership. Guys are being killed ten days after being drafted.....some are surrendering as soon as deployed
You still haven't answered about the sourcing for your claims. This may very well be happening but the same thing is happening in Ukraine only it's 10X worse. The Russians have a ton of POW's for a reason. People from AFU are surrendering almost immediately.

Taylor Swift will NEVER beat Mike Tyson no matter how friendly the msm is towards her or who's in her corner or how fancy her gloves are. Russia will win and it's only a matter of time. Ukraine will either be a rump state or completely taken depending on how Kiev wants to play it. Russia held off on attacking main infrastructure for about 6 months but now the gloves are off and their power grind and other key infrastructure is in shambles.