Former Nittany Lion OL wants PSU to scrap RPO....
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Well now I'm even more disappointed. Glad we're 7-0.
FWIW, I have noticed our OL let up when they get to the second level, so the 3-yard limit does have an impact.
Can you imagine what this board would have been like in 1986? LMAO.
well then you should really enjoy Barry's post to me......
https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/this-will-make-sluggos-head-explode.250392/
Watch the effort on the 2nd play from scrimmage (the blocked WR screen). Most of our OL leave it all on the field, and we have to commend them for that, but not all.
hey I think our kids work hard, play the game hard, they try to do what they are coached to do.
I was not referring to a specific topic (ie RPO). Any mention/discussion of potential weakness in talent, game plan, or decision making has been met with overwhelming snark that the the team is 7-0 and well, SHUT UP!
I'm not overly negative in my posts but I can't stand those that try to shut down reasonable observations and conversations and I wind up getting in discussion/arguments over what is acceptable opinion and not the merits of said opinion.
I hear you there. If you dare tip your cap or say an opponent could be tough....a few people take that as a shot at PSU. PSU has 3 road games left and they could go 0-3 or just as easy go 3-0. That will send some people into a tizzy, but going on the road late in the year is tough, no matter who you are. I'm not thinking the next 3 games are going to be make or break based on a QB keeper either...but that is just me.
Now you've done it.It would really drive people crazy if they figured out a way to go 1-1-1.
Agreed. Same stupid conversations about this offense. Our offense after 94, except with Robinson and Clark, was absolutely painful to watch. We lost more games because we couldn't score than one could shake a stick at. I'm surprised Contz is so clueless.
Why didn't the 82 team hold the lead against Nebreska at home when we were killing them? Guess it was the offense we ran. Why couldn't we score on the road against Bama that year?
And I guarantee if we tried to play pro-style offense against Michigan we would have lost by 10 plus points. Joe tried that for years against scum and lost nine in a row.
Folks - wake up - even the NFL is going spread. When defenses didn't load the box you could run a pro style offense. That has changed. You need the Steelers offensive line to run that offense and even then you would struggle.
How about this: We played well for the first quarter and a half. And then like what happens with good teams Michigan played well for a quater and a half. If Contz thinks we were going to line up and smash it down Michigan's throat he's out of his mind.
You people complained about Joe's boring offense for 50 years. Now you want to go back every time Penn State doesn't score 50. SMH
Gee whiz. That formation would solve all of our problems. Defenses would just be totally overwhelmed. And yet Texas keeps losing.
How did Wisconsin rush for over 300 yards against Michigan, and totally dominate on the scoreboard?
They don't run a "modern" spread offense and don't have a running QB, so how could that offense win so convincingly against the same Michigan defense in both yardage and score?
JVP favored defense, a field position game, and waiting for your opponent to make the mistake. It wasn't because he avoided rushing his quarterback, didn't have the RPO, couldn't throw the bomb, or anything like that. After the turn of the century it wasn't that the game had passed him by. It was, among other things, a lack of recruiting in old age, and a bit of nepotism. The HC is usually the driver of recruiting and philosophy. After that it is the coordinators and assistants.
I remember when Derrick Williams and Justin King showed up. Penn State had not been recruiting that kind of speed. Those guys were outliers. Now we expect these types of players -- everywhere.
With Franklin, we are now ahead of the Wisconsins and Iowas in terms of personnel, but we are still behind OSU.
I'm glad somebody understands how the Penn State offense works. Too many people don't understand what the rpo is. They think that the zone read plays are rpo. I agree that Rahne calls rpo plays less than Moorehead did. That's the reason why you don't see the rb getting tackled well behind the line of scrimmage very often anymore.
"trashing"
some merely might view the empirical evidence from the first 7 games and discuss how they see things playing out over the remainder of the season against top teams.
7-0 is nice, but frankly, it's not overly meaningful given the schedule thus far and the remaining schedule. Minny is 6-0 but does anyone think they are a Top 10 team? No, and humbly, I think PSU is under-performing and is not playing to the level of seriously competing with OSU. I hope I'm wrong. I hope they figure it out before Nov 23, but I don't think they are there today.
"Franklin and his staff are going to continue to do what they’re doing because it’s successful."
I like Franklin and I hope he stays at PSU a long time, but we'll have to slightly disagree on the meaning of successful. Post-sanction-affected teams, we've seen PSU overcome some big deficits in 2016, but IMHO, we've had too many big leads given up in big games(USC, OSU) and frankly, PSU got lucky on Saturday night against UM. As Contz and the Nitwits above said, UM made adjustments and PSU didn't. PSU managed to outlast UM. A win is great. It's certainly better than a loss, but anyone that came away from that game feeling good about the quality of play and prospects against tougher competition, didn't watch or doesn't understand.
All the confusion started the minute PSU hired Moorhead. The only thing people talked about was how he ran a rpo based offense. Because of that, people think that every read play is a rpo.
A personal favorite of mine that’s developed is the fans who both think we run too many RPOs, and also ask why we don’t throw more short slants over the middle.
