Time will tell what? Whether Levis gets drafted in the first round on the NFL draft (perhaps although he hasn’t enhanced his chances with any of his recent performances). Whether Franklin choosing Clifford over Levis was the right call? Notwithstanding his costly turnovers yesterday vs OSU—absolutely.
Kentucky has been better with Will than PSU with Cliffy. Time may run out as eventually Cliffy’s 6th year will come to an end. Perhaps as soon as Saturday?
I don't agree at all. If you watched the game, you know, T piled on points when the K OL gave Levis Zero time to throw. K is a running game and once they had to throw the ball to catch up, it was game over. WL and Kentucky played into T's hands. WL has played really well all year with an inferior OL against much better against good competition than SC has played.
Just by you mentioning Will Levis and Josh Allen in the same breath, you lose all credibility.
I don't think it was as cut and dried as both sides would believe. I think both appeared to have trajectories, but uncertain ones as well.
Agreed. Levis did the right thing by leaving but you can see why the coaches stuck with Clifford. Time will tell, but it's hard to see him as an NFL QB.
OSU and Michigan are better than three of those teams for sure and their defenses are better than all of them. Levis didn’t even play that well against the tomato cans on their schedule. It’s funny because on the KY message board they are saying they would rather have Clifford. I guess it’s all in how you’re looking at it.
No, but they’re full of experienced transfers. They had a better OLine than we did last year, they have a damn good RB, and they had a receiver last year that was good as anybody’s. It’s not like Levis is playing with no talent. They also had a very soft schedule last year which helped them get to 10 wins. They may get to 8 this year. If Levis had been made the starter here last year, he’d be getting skewered on this board just like Clifford.
I don't disagree...but to suggest the staff made 'the right decision" is disingenuous. The staff didn't make the right decision. They shut down the competition to where Levis felt he had to leave. And he was right. He'd still be sitting on the bench whereas he'll be a high draft pick. And, frankly, SC is a mediocre QB at best. I am not a hater. I love the kid and he has a lot to fall in love with. But after five years in the program and a four-year starter, he is no better than he was three years ago. he simply isn't very good. He has no skills. He doesn't have a strong arm. He's not a good runner. I don't see anything in him that makes a staff, or program, want him to continue to start.
There is no way to know. First, Levis left when we were running a heavy RPO offense which doesn’t fit his style. He is not a quick footed guy making quick cuts like an RPO qb must do.
Agreed. And I cannot square with defending SC after the three 3 Ints with many more knocked down and went 1 for 3 with one being a total blow out.
Your case that there was no QB competition is based on a grand total of zero. None of us have any idea what happened in practice or in discussions. Levis left before there really could be a competition, so your statement that the staff shut down competition is disingenuous.
Levis had three INT’s against Tenn and got blown out. He had two fumbles against Ole Miss and lost. He and Clifford are very similar, so this idea that we let the next Josh Allen go is ridiculous.
Its a good point but him leaving was not without friction...meaning, he left for a reason. I think it is clear that SC is not a great QB. A great kid, not a great QB.
I never suggested he was Josh Allen. However, SC had four turnovers against tOSU and led PSU to a 41-17 loss to Michigan. Again, have no idea how anyone can say that we have been better off with SC at QB instead of WL.
I think he was saying based on how Levis is playing this year it was the right decision. That’s as valid an argument as using Clifford’s bad games this year as the argument that Franklin made the wrong decision. I just find it hard to believe that any coach would tell a backup QB they weren’t going to play next year but they would be happy to have them stay and sit the bench. No coach does that.
You may not have said that about Josh Allen, but others have. And I can’t see how anyone who watched Levis play against Ole Miss and Tennessee (and the rest of their games this year) could say we would have been better off with Levis. I just think many posters on here are way harder on our own guys than they are on other team’s players and guys that have transferred and play elsewhere.
We know what SC has done with PSU, not just this year but last. We don't know what WL would have done.
I agree, we don’t know what we would have done with Levis as a starter, but there’s nothing in what he’s done the last two years to show he would have done any better than Clifford. And I don’t think SC is better than Levis, I think they’re pretty equal. Both have positives and negatives and both a decent but not great college QB’s. All I know is Clifford played better while they were both here and that’s all a coach can go on. And who knows what happened in all those practices.
I actually disagree. WL is a much better runner than SC has ever been. And he is probably on a par as far as a passer (with a much stronger arm). Again, K has much less talent around him from WR to TE to RB. K recruiting hasn't been in the same level as ours.
Again, we have no idea what WL would have done in a PSU uniform as it is a different scheme, teammates and competition. But to suggest SC is better, especially after this week, is foolish.
well, PSU used WL as a runner to bail the team out the year before he left. WL was used as our only short-yardage option. I recall him running that ball several times in a row when we were trying to protect a (rare) lead.
I read that something like 33% of starting QBs are portal transfers. I am watching Bo Nix lead Oregon to a 7-1 record so far and recall him looking really bad last year against PSU.
WanDale Robinson was as good as the receivers we’ve had. Rodriguez is as good a RB and last year UK had a much better OLine than we’ve had the last two years. Levis, like Clifford, doesn’t run much so it doesn’t really matter who’s better. He does have a stronger arm, but he rarely throws downfield, so it doesn’t matter.
