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Golden State Killer Arrested

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A 72-year-old ex-cop has been arrested in Sacramento in a decades-long search for the Golden State Killer who terrorized California communities in the 1970s and 1980s with a series of murders and rapes, according to media reports.

The elusive, masked killer, also known as the East Area Rapist and the Original Night Stalker, is believed to have killed 12 people, raped 45 people and ransacked more than 100 area homes.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ler-joseph-james-deangelo-arrested/550544002/
 
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kijana said:
Just watched a 4 part documentary on this case on ID Discovery.
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There has also been a 5 part series on HLN about this case which I just finished watching. Interesting that he was a cop and that the rapes in the Sacramento area stopped about the time he was fired from the force (for shoplifting dog repellant and a hammer).
 
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A bit of interesting trivia about that book - it was written and heavily researched by Michelle McNamara, Patton Oswalt's wife until she passed away. She died of a deadly combination of pharmaceuticals many say she took in excess while writing and researching this case. She died in her sleep before finishing the book, and Patton and her writing/research partners finished it on her behalf.

 
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After watching the series about the Golden State Killeron TV I ordered and am reading this book, right now. I have lived here in California since 1975 and until I saw the series on TV I had never heard of the Golden State Killer, or the East Area Rapist, or the Original Night Stalker, or the Visalla Ransacker. I am glad they got him.
 
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MontereyLion said:
A 72-year-old ex-cop has been arrested in Sacramento in a decades-long search for the Golden State Killer who terrorized California communities in the 1970s and 1980s with a series of murders and rapes, according to media reports.

The elusive, masked killer, also known as the East Area Rapist and the Original Night Stalker, is believed to have killed 12 people, raped 45 people and ransacked more than 100 area homes.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ler-joseph-james-deangelo-arrested/550544002/
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They arrested Steph Curry? Only way Dubs won't repeat.
 
I am amazed that they caught him. Heck I am amazed that he is still alive. His last known crime was in 1986. However, one of his victims from the East Area Rapes said that he called her like in 2001 and said...."Remember when we played"...and hung up. Yikes...this guy was pure evil.
 
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MontereyLion said:
After watching the series about the Golden State Killeron TV I ordered and am reading this book, right now. I have lived here in California since 1975 and until I saw the series on TV I had never heard of the Golden State Killer, or the East Area Rapist, or the Original Night Stalker, or the Visalla Ransacker. I am glad they got him.
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That book is on my “to read” list. Just read Mind Hunter about the development of the FBI profiler program. There is a series on Netflix about it. It’s amazing how accurate the profiles of these serial killers are. Really helps law enforcement to narrow down potential suspects.
 
They kept saying at the PC that they found him with the advancement in DNA. I'll bet they backdoor found him through the DNA of his family history. I guess he has 3 adult children. They said the family has been cooperative. That is just my wild ass guess.
 
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I was in middle school in the 70’s living in Sacramento, CA. Back then he was called the East Area rapist. It was a big deal and had a lot of people scared.
 
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They kept saying at the PC that they found him with the advancement in DNA. I'll bet they backdoor found him through the DNA of his family history. I guess he has 3 adult children. They said the family has been cooperative. That is just my wild ass guess.
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I think they corroborated their belief that it was him by using DNA, but before they can test someone’s DNA, or their children’s DNA, they have to have a suspect.
 
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I think they corroborated their belief that it was him by using DNA, but before they can test someone’s DNA, or their children’s DNA, they have to have a suspect.
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They made it sound like there was a big leap forward in DNA research. That is why I made that guess. They kept saying it was the DNA. Therefore my guess is the advancement allowed them to pin point a suspect with only DNA.
 
The 2 murders he is charged with near Sacramento were a husband and wife walking their dog late in the evening. They think the two of them came upon the East Area Rapists and the man chased him. The man was a military police officer. The EAR turned and shot the man then ran down his wife and killed her too. Shoes strings were found near the crime scene. He used shoes strings that he brought with him to tie up his victims. Perhaps they got DNA from the shoe strings and match the bullets from the gun to another crime? These two were the only two that were killed near Sacramento.
 
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The 2 murders he is charged with near Sacramento were a husband and wife walking their dog late in the evening. They think the two of them came upon the East Area Rapists and the man chased him. The man was a military police officer. The EAR turned and shot the man then ran down his wife and killed her too. Shoes strings were found near the crime scene. He used shoes strings that he brought with him to tie up his victims. Perhaps they got DNA from the shoe strings and match the bullets from the gun to another crime? These two were the only two that were killed near Sacramento.
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Let me start by saying I could be 100% wrong. But as far as I know there is no such thing as a DNA database. So regardless of where and how they got the DNA, they had to have a suspect to test it against. DNA by itself won’t give them a suspect. It would be like finding fingerprints that weren’t in a fingerprint database. At that point, without a suspect to check them against, they’re not worth much. The LA Times Article makes it sound like they had him under surveillance first and were then able to obtain DNA to confirm their suspicions, which makes sense to me. I just don’t see how DNA by itself can lead to a suspect.

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Did Patton Oswalt’s wife name this guy in her book? I’m guessing not because if she had been wrong that would have opened up them up to being sued.
 
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Let me start by saying I could be 100% wrong. But as far as I know there is no such thing as a DNA database.
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CODIS is the national DNA database just as AFIS is the national fingerprint database.

Any sufficient DNA profile can be entered into CODIS. The profiles can be from a known subject or they can be unidentified profiles obtained from crime scenes. The NoCal and SoCal cases were connected by matching unidentified profiles. The trick is finding a known suspect profile and getting a hit on a previously submitted unidentified profile. It can also work the other way with an unidentified profile matching a known profile already in the system.

I think I read the Golden State Killer was identified by using discarded DNA which makes it apparent the police had reason to suspect the guy and collect an item he threw away. I'm sure we'll be hearing more about it.
 
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Gotcha. So they had the DNA of the killer, or what they presumed was the DNA of the killer, in the database and then this ex-cops’s DNA, which they got from discarded items, matched those samples?

I didn’t know there was a national DNA database. That’s very interesting but also makes me question the legality of keeping people’s DNA profiles: could that be construed as an unlawful search and seizure? ‘Tis a brave new world.

Do we own our DNA? Could it be construed as property?
 
They said he became a suspect 6 day ago and they put him under surveillance. They were able to get DNA from a discarded source.
 
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Gotcha. So they had the DNA of the killer, or what they presumed was the DNA of the killer, in the database and then this ex-cops’s DNA, which they got from discarded items, matched those samples?

I didn’t know there was a national DNA database. That’s very interesting but also makes me question the legality of keeping people’s DNA profiles: could that be construed as an unlawful search and seizure? ‘Tis a brave new world.

Do we own our DNA? Could it be construed as property?
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That's how I read it. Old evidence was tested when DNA techniques became available thus the unidentified suspect DNA was isolated.

As for the legality of keeping DNA (and I'm not an expert on this), most if not all states have passed laws which require DNA to be taken from people convicted of certain offenses. These samples are then forever available for comparison in CODIS. As for crime scene DNA, a suspect wouldn't have a leg to stand on if they claimed they had a right to something they in essence discarded at said crime scene.

Law enforcement has recently been tapping into the DNA databases of the commercial testing companies like Ancestry, Family Tree, 23 and Me, etc. Legal or not?? That's currently at issue in the courts.
 
wbcincy said:
I think you misread his comment. I just took it "that's going to get ugly," not that there was any problem with whatever will happen to him though.
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Following ro as I do, I tend to agree. In fact, I took his comment to be a touch of sarcasm.
 
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So,if he's guilty , they shouldn't? If he did what he is accused of, jail is too good for him
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Pretty sure he believed that this would, in fact, BE much worse than jail for most people.
 
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I thought Carl Kolchak was the Original Night Stalker.

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So if I get this right, they sent the perp's DNA from the crime scene to ancestry.com (and others) and got back family tree information that led them right back to the perp?
 
How a Genealogy Site Led to the Front Door of the Golden State Killer Suspect

Investigators used DNA from crime scenes that had been stored all these years and plugged the genetic profile of the suspected assailant into an online genealogy database. They found distant relatives of Mr. DeAngelo’s and, despite his years of eluding the authorities, traced their DNA to to his front door.

“We found a person that was the right age and lived in this area — and that was Mr. DeAngelo,” said Steve Grippi, the assistant chief in the Sacramento district attorney’s office.

Investigators then obtained what Anne Marie Schubert, the Sacramento district attorney, called “abandoned” DNA samples from Mr. DeAngelo. “You leave your DNA in a place that is a public domain,” she said.

The test result confirmed the match to more than 10 murders in California. Ms. Schubert’s office then obtained a second sample and came back with the same positive result, matching the full DNA profile.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/26/us/golden-state-killer.html
 
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