Golden State Killer Arrested
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Great stuff. DNA is a great tool to help release the unfairly accused and nail the guilty who have evaded capture.
This guy is a scumbag. Imagine how his daughter and granddaughter feel now - they were living with a monster
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These ancestory-DNA companies, when requested with a search warrant, are in fact opening up their DNA data bases.
Haha. Ain’t that a bitch. Submit your DNA thinking you’re related to Henry the VIII and then grandpa gets popped for 10+ murders and 50+ rapes.
During the reign of Henry VIII, between 1509 and 1547, an estimated 57,000 [source: The Tudors] and 72,000 [source: Historic Royal Palaces] English subjects lost their heads. It was a violent time in history, but Henry VIII may have been particularly bloodthirsty, executing tens of thousands during his 36-year reign. By comparison, the daughter who succeeded him on the throne, who came to be called "Bloody Mary," killed fewer than 300 people during her six years as queen.
Not the concern you raised. Nevertheless, a concern for some.
LINK: Use of DNA in serial killer probe sparks privacy concerns
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Wow. That’s pretty amazing. Glad it led to the capture of such a deranged monster, but in general not sure how I feel about these companies keeping and using people’s DNA for purposes other than tracing their geaneology. What if the government or health insurance companies wanted access to the database to search out people that had a generic defect that would make it likely they’d develop cancer or some other disease? This may not be as good an analogy, but what if the restaurant you just ate at lifted your prints off of the glass you drank out of and gave it to law enforcement?
just to clarify, the police used a new, open source genealogy website at first, correct?
I didn’t see it mentioned anywhere that the DNA first came from an open source site. The only thing I’ve read to date is that it came from a geaneology website...but it didn’t specify if it was open source. Did you read that somewhere? Could be they found it on an open source site but had no way of tying it to a person until they found out who’s DNA it was - like a relative in a family. Hence the need to hit an ancestry site.
Edit: I’m not talking about the discarded DNA but the DNA that led them to the identity of the person who “owned” the discarded DNA.
I should clarify, the police always had the killer's DNA. I believe they shared it on an open source genealogy website looking for a match or familial match.
Paul Holes, the lead investigator on the case, told the Mercury News in San Jose, California, that the investigative team used GEDMatch, a Florida-based website that pools DNA profiles that people upload and share publicly.
This is why I refuse to do one of those DNA testing things. I mean, not that I'm a murderer on the run, but I don't trust what the data will be used for w/o my consent.
The problem with the death penalty is that people sentenced to it still are alive for 15+ years.
I think the death penalty is to good for this guy. Somebody else said put him in general population. Let him experience the fear, 24 hours a day, that he enjoyed putting others in. I'll bet he doesn't die of natural causes.
Golden State Killer suspect Joseph DeAngelo is being looked at in the 1978 deaths of 24-year-old Rhonda Wicht and her 4-year-old son Donald, CBS Los Angeles reports.
“We’ve made a request for a DNA comparison to find out if the DNA they recovered from Mr. DeAngelo is consistent with the DNA that we have in our case,” Simi Valley Deputy Chief Joseph May told the TV station.
“It’s within the realm of possibility that he could be a suspect in our case,” May said.
Wicht was raped and strangled and her son was smothered in his sleep, NBC San Diegoreports.
Craig Coley, now 70, described in reports as Wicht's ex-boyfriend, was convicted in the killings but released from prison last fall after DNA evidence cleared him.
I don't believed that The Golden State Killer is responsible for these deaths. I could be wrong and time will tell. Every time he changed location he changed his MO, some. When he started out in Visalla, in 1974, as the Visalla Ransacker, he only burglarized houses. In less then 2 years he burglarized more then 100 houses. He did not rape women there. Then in 1976 he changed jobs from a policeman in the Vizalla area, to a policeman in Auburn, not far from Sacramento. There he started burglarzing homes AND raping women. In that area from 1976 until 1979, he burglarized and raped over 40 women but never killed his victims. He did shoot to death a couple that happened upon him late in the evening, when they were walking their dog. The killings described in the article above happened in 1978, all the way down in Southern California. Out of his area by 350 miles and not his MO at that time. Then in 1979 he was fired from his police position for shoplifting. The rapes near Sacramento stopped and the rapes and killing started up down near LA. He obviuosly took another job and moved down there, in 1979. There he changed his MO again, he started burlarizing, raping AND killing his victims. Both the females and their male husbands/boyfriends were killed. The killings in this article just don't seem to fit. It is TERRIBLE that the ex-boyfriend of the female killed was convicted and spent about 35 years in prison, before DNA proved he was not the killer. Sometimes the system just does NOT work.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/2...ders-woman-and-her-4-year-old-son-police.html
“We’ve made a request for a DNA comparison to find out if the DNA they recovered from Mr. DeAngelo is consistent with the DNA that we have in our case,” Simi Valley Deputy Chief Joseph May told the TV station.
“It’s within the realm of possibility that he could be a suspect in our case,” May said.
Wicht was raped and strangled and her son was smothered in his sleep, NBC San Diegoreports.
Craig Coley, now 70, described in reports as Wicht's ex-boyfriend, was convicted in the killings but released from prison last fall after DNA evidence cleared him.
I don't believed that The Golden State Killer is responsible for these deaths. I could be wrong and time will tell. Every time he changed location he changed his MO, some. When he started out in Visalla, in 1974, as the Visalla Ransacker, he only burglarized houses. In less then 2 years he burglarized more then 100 houses. He did not rape women there. Then in 1976 he changed jobs from a policeman in the Vizalla area, to a policeman in Auburn, not far from Sacramento. There he started burglarzing homes AND raping women. In that area from 1976 until 1979, he burglarized and raped over 40 women but never killed his victims. He did shoot to death a couple that happened upon him late in the evening, when they were walking their dog. The killings described in the article above happened in 1978, all the way down in Southern California. Out of his area by 350 miles and not his MO at that time. Then in 1979 he was fired from his police position for shoplifting. The rapes near Sacramento stopped and the rapes and killing started up down near LA. He obviuosly took another job and moved down there, in 1979. There he changed his MO again, he started burlarizing, raping AND killing his victims. Both the females and their male husbands/boyfriends were killed. The killings in this article just don't seem to fit. It is TERRIBLE that the ex-boyfriend of the female killed was convicted and spent about 35 years in prison, before DNA proved he was not the killer. Sometimes the system just does NOT work.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/2...ders-woman-and-her-4-year-old-son-police.html
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California is one of the 31 states with the death penalty but they haven't executed anyone since 2006.
I agree with you. We watched both series about him. There was another series on another channel as well. Then I went out and bought the book. That guy was nuts. The things he did to people were terrible. To think he was a police officer while he did most of his crimes. WOW.
I am interested to find out what trinkets and trophies they were able to find. He had to still have some of it if not all of it. I'm kind of surprised that they haven't searched his estranged wife's house yet . Unless getting a warrant is an issue for some reason. I really find it hard to believe that at some point she didn't either know or suspect he was possibly the guy . He took something from almost every victim. She had to accidentally come across something at some time.
Instead of finger prints for people, we need DNA samples. It would clear up a lot of unnecessary detainments and cases. You got nothing to worry about if you haven’t done anything. I got no problem with it. Get it right!
And this is why many states are loathe to use the death penalty. Say this poor guy was wrongly convicted and executed. How do you undo that? It’s horrible he was locked up for so long, but at least he was eventually cleared. You can’t un-kill someone who was wrongly executed.
they went clear back to his great great great grandparents
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...bec548d501f_story.html?utm_term=.6f7b14445c28
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...bec548d501f_story.html?utm_term=.6f7b14445c28
I'll Be Gone in the Dark docuseries greenlit at HBO after Golden State Killer suspect's arrest
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/01/hbo-ill-be-gone-dark-golden-state-killer-michelle-mcnamara/
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/01/hbo-ill-be-gone-dark-golden-state-killer-michelle-mcnamara/
I used to be Pro Death penalty, but switched my stance a few year ago after this case happened in my neighborhood in Round Rock
https://www.cnn.com/2013/12/04/justice/exonerated-prisoner-update-michael-morton/index.html
Michael Morton was 100% innocent of his wife's murder, but the prosecutor withheld DNA evidence that point to a prior felon, and didn't get the son's statement that his daddy was not home at the time and described the man. The convicted felon went on to kill another woman in the area which would have not happened if the Prosecutor turned over all evidence and not hidden it.
Anderson, the prosecutor, deliberately with-held the evidence to boost his conviction rate, and later was elected Judge. Morton, served 25 years in prison, and his son dropped contact with him. All because of this Prosecutor. His penalty? 5 days in prison, $500 fine and 500 hours community service. And he still does not acknowledge or even remember it.
Morton has taken this all great. Not certain how 25 years in prison couldn't harden you, but he is not.
It is the ineptitude of a few lawyers and judges, and sometimes even their brazen disregard to the justice system for their own conviction rate (versus getting it right) that made me switch my stance. I totally understand their pressure to appease citizen fears by announcing they got their guy, but not at the expense of the innocent.
Add: Also a believer in Professional Juror's. No way I want to be tried by a Jury of my Peers. Most of my peers are total idiots, that watch CNN/Fox/MSNBC/etc. and believe it all as the truth. Hearing the jurors in the Morton case, they convicted, not because of evidence (there was none), but because he wasn't showing enough emotion during the trial. A total fail of the system
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I also have been for the death pentalty most of my life. I changed my feelings about it for similar reasons and because putting these beasts to death allows them to get off too easy. They need to spend the rest of their lives in a 6 by 10 foot cell... 24/7...alone...until they die. No TV.....no books...just their own crazy minds, to lose. That is real punishment and it would save the states millions in court costs, fighting to put these animals to death.
I'v worked in the courts for over 30 years. The same state govts that cant fix the roads ought not have the power of life and death.
