Herbie and McDonough tried to convince the audience that the Buckeyes and Irish relied very little on transfers

[mfb5053]

Interesting exercise for you. You are forming an NCAA NFL League. 24 teams broken up into 2 conferences with 4 divisions each. Play the same style of schedule as NFL but keep it at 10 games. 4 division, 3 in a conference and 3 from a division in the other conference. Each Division Champ makes the playoffs. Max of 4 games to win it all so 14 total for two teams. The rub is you lose two home games, but you potentially gain it back in the playoffs. I looked at the Top 24 in average attendance over the last 5 years. That does leave some big ones out, but I came up with this:

Atlantic

Clemson Georgia
Florida Virginia Tech
South Carolina Florida State

South

LSU Alabama
Auburn Tennessee
Texas A&M Texas

Mid West

Michigan Notre Dame
Ohio State Penn State
Arkansas Michigan State

West

Oklahoma USC
Washington Iowa
Nebraska Wisconsin

I don't like the two west divisions, but these are teams I got based upon attendance.

Any thoughts?

Phil knight is going to be pissed.

 

[Still in State College]

Phil knight is going to be pissed.

Get a bigger stadium. First run through. Has to select teams based upon something so I chose attendance.

 

[LandoComando]

Yet he is now saying the opposite.

He isn't

 

[LandoComando]

Interesting exercise for you. You are forming an NCAA NFL League. 24 teams broken up into 2 conferences with 4 divisions each. Play the same style of schedule as NFL but keep it at 10 games. 4 division, 3 in a conference and 3 from a division in the other conference. Each Division Champ makes the playoffs. Max of 4 games to win it all so 14 total for two teams. The rub is you lose two home games, but you potentially gain it back in the playoffs. I looked at the Top 24 in average attendance over the last 5 years. That does leave some big ones out, but I came up with this:

Atlantic

Clemson Georgia
Florida Virginia Tech
South Carolina Florida State

South

LSU Alabama
Auburn Tennessee
Texas A&M Texas

Mid West

Michigan Notre Dame
Ohio State Penn State
Arkansas Michigan State

West

Oklahoma USC
Washington Iowa
Nebraska Wisconsin

I don't like the two west divisions, but these are teams I got based upon attendance.

Any thoughts?

Ummm....I like aspects of it
I think there needs to be more teams (I'd double it--and have 8 rotating pods of 6--5 pod games and 6 vs another pod that rotates every 2 years after a home and home) but it's an interesting proposal. I'd move Penn State to Va Tech's spot then Wisconsin to Penn State's and add Oregon in the west Probably swap Arkansas and Tennessee too but it's debatable

 

[EPC FAN]

There was never anything clean about Notre Dame. They offered money just like OSU, Michigan, and the SEC. They were just too arrogant to admit it. A whole book was written on the dirty business Lou Holtz engaged in when he was coaching there.

Under the Tarnished Dome

 

[jbenedict]

Herbie will always spin everything to show the Bucknuts in a better light - they bought a lot of their team as many have done and that was the point - trying to say they didn't is just Herbie being the homer he always has been.

Perfect

 

[Still in State College]

Ummm....I like aspects of it
I think there needs to be more teams (I'd double it--and have 8 rotating pods of 6--5 pod games and 6 vs another pod that rotates every 2 years after a home and home) but it's an interesting proposal. I'd move Penn State to Va Tech's spot then Wisconsin to Penn State's and add Oregon in the west Probably swap Arkansas and Tennessee too but it's debatable

I was initially thinking 32 just like the NFL with the same schedule and same playoff format but it starts to get to be too many games.

 

[LandoComando]

I was initially thinking 32 just like the NFL with the same schedule and same playoff format but it starts to get to be too many games.

Yeah, 32 is tricky. Pretty much has to 24, 36 or 48 for the math to work well...

 

[Eph97]

OSU didn't bring in any new players at a greater rate than other playoff contenders. Who on offense did they bring in that started? Judkins at RB, and McCloughlin at C. Two. On defense, it was Downs at S. The rest of the NIL money was to retain all the seniors. Also, the majority of OSU fans can't stand Herbstreit and he doesn't care for OSU fans so the feeling is mutual.

 

[Eph97]

ND and duhO$U have been great at recruiting, where now having a massive NIL war chest helps greatly in attracting the best talent. They both were pretty good at under the table benefits before NIL. They have the core talent to develop, but are also good at filling current starter talent holes will top players from other teams via the NIL-transfer portal complex.

And it’s been known for years, at least in the town where I grew up, that ND was providing things to recruits that other schools weren’t. It was a dirty little not-so-secret because of the whispered rumors. ND was not that saintly, and used their position as a “pious” religious school as a cover. I’m not going to get into it, but this was way back as the early 70’s.

So what? The plantation system that the NCAA and coaches enforced and exploited was hardly righteous. Teams paying players back then is like breaking the 55 mph speed limit by going 5 over.

 

[mgkpsu]

OSU didn't bring in any new players at a greater rate than other playoff contenders. Who on offense did they bring in that started? Judkins at RB, and McCloughlin at C. Two. On defense, it was Downs at S. The rest of the NIL money was to retain all the seniors. Also, the majority of OSU fans can't stand Herbstreit and he doesn't care for OSU fans so the feeling is mutual.

Will Howard. Davison Igbinosu.

They bring in more than we do, but obviously not as many as some other teams.

And Herbstreit is a douchebag. His fake nice guy routine is tired, and he just can't mask his bias for OSU many times.

 

[dailybuck777]

OSU didn't bring in any new players at a greater rate than other playoff contenders. Who on offense did they bring in that started? Judkins at RB, and McCloughlin at C. Two. On defense, it was Downs at S. The rest of the NIL money was to retain all the seniors. Also, the majority of OSU fans can't stand Herbstreit and he doesn't care for OSU fans so the feeling is mutual.

Ohio state's starting left tackle who was injured was also brought in from the portal 2 years ago and their cornerback igobahnsen (sp) was brought in through the transfer portal 2 years ago also I believe.

 

[AWS1022]

OSU didn't bring in any new players at a greater rate than other playoff contenders. Who on offense did they bring in that started? Judkins at RB, and McCloughlin at C. Two. On defense, it was Downs at S. The rest of the NIL money was to retain all the seniors. Also, the majority of OSU fans can't stand Herbstreit and he doesn't care for OSU fans so the feeling is mutual.

Um, their starting QB….thats a pretty big transfer position.

 

[LandoComando]

Um, their starting QB….thats a pretty big transfer position.

It is...would it also be a potential argument he's the worst of the 4 QBs left? Only Allar isn't a transfer....
Of course they have him because Ewers went to Texas so it's a pass if you lose a better QB in the portal then get a lesser one in the portal?