Coach K was one of the few to publicly stand up and defend Joe when it hit the fan. He was there for us when our conference "bros" shunned us and wanted to expel us from the conference. Why root for Wis and/or Mich St then?
Here's why I'm rooting for Duke....
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Coach K was great. He was a true buddy to Joe. Not a fake like Bobby Bowden. K actually went above and beyond in spite of a lot of the idiot crap being said.
BUT...
Bo Ryan did. He went way above and beyond and I love that program. I would love nothing more than to see that team cut the nets down.
This Final 4 might be the greatest collection of coaches ever in the last four. I would love for Izzo or Ryan to win.
BUT...
Bo Ryan did. He went way above and beyond and I love that program. I would love nothing more than to see that team cut the nets down.
This Final 4 might be the greatest collection of coaches ever in the last four. I would love for Izzo or Ryan to win.
You root for Wiscy because Bo Ryan is old school like Joe, they play a great team game, and Calipari is everything bad about college athletics (he is the anti-Joe).
You can root for whoever you want for in MSU vs. Duke. It is not like Izzo is a bad guy. He has always spoke nice things about PSU and from interviews and articles about him, seems pretty decent. And in general, MSU BBall players appear to be pretty well grounded.
You can root for whoever you want for in MSU vs. Duke. It is not like Izzo is a bad guy. He has always spoke nice things about PSU and from interviews and articles about him, seems pretty decent. And in general, MSU BBall players appear to be pretty well grounded.
Bo Ryan took his team to the statue, see link
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archives/article_bd6b3ec7-73ea-500b-8cdd-0573b712f61a.html
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archives/article_bd6b3ec7-73ea-500b-8cdd-0573b712f61a.html
You root for Coach K because he's all class not because he defended Joe. He's much more than just that.
All of this talk about how Calipari is so bad for college athletics is silly. He was cleared of any wrong doing at both UMass and Memphis. UMass got in trouble because Marcus Camby took money from an agent. There is no evidence that Calipari had any involvement whatsoever. The problems at Memphis stemmed from the fact that Derrick Rose had somebody else take his SAT's for him when he was in high school. Again, there is no evidence that Calipari was involved in any way. In both cases the sins of one player got wins vacated and banners removed at both schools. I also find it funny how everybody criticizes Calipari for using one and done players, but nobody has a problem with Coach K.
I won't be watching, and I despise the BigTen, but Bo Ryan and his team
honored Joe and I will always remember that, so I hope they win it all.
honored Joe and I will always remember that, so I hope they win it all.
He didn't believe in it until it became impossible because of guys like Calipari who literally began selling guys like DaJuan Wagner on the whole premise.
He does it well. K always had graduated his players. I think Avery and maybe Elton Brand were two of his first early exits. I don't fault Calipari(and he is good at running his system) but he is slimy as all hell and he also is not anything close to a college basketball coach. He runs an NBA puppy mill.
If you think Calipari is clean, you probably think Tressel and Carrol are clean also. It is not coincidence that everywhere Calipari goes, NCAA violations are sure to follow. Calipari could care less about his kids graduating. he is all about winning BBall games, everything else is a very distant second. THe idea of student athlete does not even exist in his vocabulary.
if you are recruiting an elite talent in Basketball you have no choice but to sell them on the idea of one and done. There is absolutely nothing slimy about this Kentucky team. They play the game exactly the way you would want a team to play. They are by all accounts good kids. They share the ball and they are maniacs on defense. What more do you want from a team? They also have several players who have been with the program for more than one year. I get why people view Calipari as being shady, but I am not sure that the reputation is entirely deserved.
I can't seem to find any reference to that. The most recent I saw was from
June of 2012, and he was still referring to Joe's firing a "horrible mistake".
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/16/coach-k-penn-states-firing-of-joe-paterno-horrible-a-real-mistake/
Link
June of 2012, and he was still referring to Joe's firing a "horrible mistake".
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/16/coach-k-penn-states-firing-of-joe-paterno-horrible-a-real-mistake/
Link
Re: I can't seem to find any reference to that. The most recent I saw was from
They were talking to him a few weeks ago on SVP and Russillo and he was pretty unwavering. He was equating it to current situations going on but he said what happened to Joe was a great miscarriage of justice.
I never really heard his direction change.
They were talking to him a few weeks ago on SVP and Russillo and he was pretty unwavering. He was equating it to current situations going on but he said what happened to Joe was a great miscarriage of justice.
I never really heard his direction change.
Here
post Freeh and pretty clear he is light on details or facts
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/video/mike-krzyzewski-discusses-joe-paterno/1736639190001
post Freeh and pretty clear he is light on details or facts
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/video/mike-krzyzewski-discusses-joe-paterno/1736639190001
Re: It's deserved
Don't be a douche. If you are convinced that Calipari is so bad you are entitled. But, the fact remains that he was cleared of any wrongdoing at both UMass and Memphis. I am not holding him up as an example of everything that is right about the world, but I don't think he is everything that is wrong about it either.
Don't be a douche. If you are convinced that Calipari is so bad you are entitled. But, the fact remains that he was cleared of any wrongdoing at both UMass and Memphis. I am not holding him up as an example of everything that is right about the world, but I don't think he is everything that is wrong about it either.
That's a ridiculous reason to root for Duke
Plus, I think you are WAY overstating what he said/did.
Plus, I think you are WAY overstating what he said/did.
Re: It's deserved
Posted by SUPERTODD: He had two separate teams have their Final Four appearances vacated. If you believe he didn't know what was going on at those schools I guess that is your prerogative.
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Really? On this board given all that has transpired over the past few years you want to categorize Calipari as "he should have known what was going on" and is therefore automatically at fault?
Posted by SUPERTODD: He had two separate teams have their Final Four appearances vacated. If you believe he didn't know what was going on at those schools I guess that is your prerogative.
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Really? On this board given all that has transpired over the past few years you want to categorize Calipari as "he should have known what was going on" and is therefore automatically at fault?
John, possibly - he left UMass for the pros, definitely a step up. That move was an upward one. After failing in the NBA the Memphis job was a good place to re-enter college and the Kentucky position was definitely a step up. Now was he aware that something may have been about to happen at booth schools? Yes that is possible, but just because he may have known - I wouldn't be surprised if he knew an investigation was occurring and what outcome was likely -and opted to leave doesn't make him responsible for what happened. As previously stated he was cleared of both the Camby and Rose incidents.
Right on. I've heard a few talking heads like Jay Bilas and Seth Greenberg mention it but I don't think it gets enough attention. To get a group of kids with these accolades to play so unselfishly and commit to defense the way they do is remarkable.
Sometimes you can get superstars to buy into sacrificing their spectacular game for the good of their team (Bosh in Miami) and often they don't (Love in Clev).
And the Kentucky kids are all cool. Karl Anthony Towns is a hoot. I would love it if he (or Booker) ended up on the Sixers.
Re: It's deserved
In both cases it was the actions of ONE player that caused the wins to be vacated. In the case of Derrick Rose the actions took place before he was even in college when he had somebody else take his SAT's. Whatever college he had chosen would have had to deal with the consequences because he was ineligible the minute he stepped on campus. At UMass Marcus Camby accepted benefits from an agent. It was not a case of widespread impropriety. All I know is that Calipari was cleared of wrongdoing in both places. If that makes me naive then so be it.
In both cases it was the actions of ONE player that caused the wins to be vacated. In the case of Derrick Rose the actions took place before he was even in college when he had somebody else take his SAT's. Whatever college he had chosen would have had to deal with the consequences because he was ineligible the minute he stepped on campus. At UMass Marcus Camby accepted benefits from an agent. It was not a case of widespread impropriety. All I know is that Calipari was cleared of wrongdoing in both places. If that makes me naive then so be it.
john4psu, I'm driving to Florida the end of this week and will be gone all of next week.
I will get back to you on this.
Thank you.
I will get back to you on this.
Thank you.
