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Wasn't O'l Miss #11 going into the Peach Bowl? Just like Wisky's BB team going into last night's game.The benchmark for PSU football fans is top 10 wins. Basketball has 0 in the last two years.
Wasn't O'l Miss #11 going into the Peach Bowl? Just like Wisky's BB team going into last night's game.
Looks like Coach Rhoades has already done what Franklin hasn't done in some time............
Ya.. If Cleary and Baldwin opted out...you bet. Otherwise ... 😂Wasn't O'l Miss #11 going into the Peach Bowl? Just like Wisky's BB team going into last night's game.
Looks like Coach Rhoades has already done what Franklin hasn't done in some time............
Yep, you already said that. Because you believe top 10 wins are the benchmark for PSU fans doesn't make it so for all PSU fans. And it seems to be splitting hairs to differentiate between the #10 and #11 team when these teams move around so much during the season. Some people believe that the final rankings taking in the whole season are the most accurate. Others give "credit" for wins over teams where they were ranked when they played them.Is 11 in the top 10? Wasn't Iowa football in the top 20? Did we count that as a top 10 win for Franklin?
Basketball has ZERO top 10 wins. 0.0.
If you want to use top 20 wins as your benchmark then fine with me but do it the for all the teams. Don't complain about lack of top 10 wins for the football team and then praise the basketball team with ZERO top ten wins. I think Basketball had 0 last year too.
Didn't the football team finish in the top 15? Do you think the basketball team will even make the tournament field of 65?
The topic of this thread is a PSU basketball win vs the 11th ranked team in the country. A team that PSU has few and far between wins against, by a coach in his first year that inherited a decimated roster. And it is interesting that the football team had a chance to play against a similarly ranked team to end it's season but couldn't get it done.Please put an asterisk on these threads * meaning ‘same ole same old tiresome BS’.
You should get into politics where fallacious arguments can dupe low information voters. The top 20 in football is 15% of division 1 programs. The top 20 in basketball is only 5.5% of division 1 programs. Your argument is as nonsensical as saying the basketball team was better than the football team because the basketball team made the playoffs and the football team didn’t.Is 11 in the top 10? Wasn't Iowa football in the top 20? Did we count that as a top 10 win for Franklin?
Basketball has ZERO top 10 wins. 0.0.
If you want to use top 20 wins as your benchmark then fine with me but do it the for all the teams. Don't complain about lack of top 10 wins for the football team and then praise the basketball team with ZERO top ten wins. I think Basketball had 0 last year too.
Didn't the football team finish in the top 15? Do you think the basketball team will even make the tournament field of 65?
Shut up. We completely exceeded expectations by making the second round of the NCAA tournament and we almost won the big ten championship last season. For this season, we are doing better than most people thought we would at this point in the season. Most people predicted us to finish in the basement of the big ten. Rhoades looks to be an EXCELLENT hire!!! You have unrealistic expectations.The benchmark for PSU football fans is top 10 wins. Basketball has 0 in the last two years.
I thought most were way too optimistic about this year’s team pre-season (and early in the season). I definitely don’t think that most were predicting us to finish last in the B1G (especially within our fanbase).Shut up. We completely exceeded expectations by making the second round of the NCAA tournament and we almost won the big ten championship last season. For this season, we are doing better than most people thought we would at this point in the season. Most people predicted us to finish in the basement of the big ten. Rhoades looks to be an EXCELLENT hire!!! You have unrealistic expectations.
College hoops has two major polls with Wisky at #8 in Coaches Poll which makes it a Top 10 win.The benchmark for PSU football fans is top 10 wins. Basketball has 0 in the last two years.
Though it’s still very early, they were projecting as a 2 seed in pretty much every bracket…they’ve been playing REALLY well.College hoops has two major polls with Wisky at #8 in Coaches Poll which makes it a Top 10 win.
They high jacked both threads. I wonder if some of these negative guys react that way at home. Say a prayer for their families. They see a dark cloud behind every silver lining.Please put an asterisk on these threads * meaning ‘same ole same old tiresome BS’.
You are a hemorrhoid on this board.The benchmark for PSU football fans is top 10 wins. Basketball has 0 in the last two years.
Yeah it seems every thread gets hijacked with the same 💩. There are four or five third graders here constantly throwing temper tantrums yelling ‘Hey look at me’. And then the other kids have to engage in five pages of ‘I am smarter than you!’.They high jacked both threads. I wonder if some of these negative guys react that way at home. Say a prayer for their families. They see a dark cloud behind every silver lining.
Very true.Yeah it seems every thread gets hijacked with the same 💩. There are four or five third graders here constantly throwing temper tantrums yelling ‘Hey look at me’. And the. The other kids have to engage in five pages of ‘I am smarter than you!’.
Sadly, the test board is more interesting as they discuss multiple issues instead of the only two discussed here…..we/Franklin sucks and bowl games are meaningless.
Hard to believe he could do much in the ACC, but the B10 seems more physical and the style is sure not his style. Pretty soft for his size. Can't imagine his minutes increasing unless he some how ups his rebounding and defense.Beating Wisconsin was a very impressive win, no matter how you look at it.
I honestly though that Puff would be a larger contributor this year than what he has been so far.
Completely different expectations on the two programs. Franklin gets paid 3x more. He has the inherent advantage of being at a blue blood program thanks to Joe.Is 11 in the top 10? Wasn't Iowa football in the top 20? Did we count that as a top 10 win for Franklin?
Basketball has ZERO top 10 wins. 0.0.
If you want to use top 20 wins as your benchmark then fine with me but do it the for all the teams. Don't complain about lack of top 10 wins for the football team and then praise the basketball team with ZERO top ten wins. I think Basketball had 0 last year too.
Didn't the football team finish in the top 15? Do you think the basketball team will even make the tournament field of 65?
A blue blood with reduced scholarships, severely damaged reputation, kids allowed to transfer out(before portal days). A program in turmoil. Previous coach left with some bitter words.Completely different expectations on the two programs. Franklin gets paid 3x more. He has the inherent advantage of being at a blue blood program thanks to Joe.
If this new OC can't deliver then Franklin will circle the drain.A blue blood with reduced scholarships, severely damaged reputation, kids allowed to transfer out(before portal days). A program in turmoil. Previous coach left with some bitter words.
He did a great job rebuilding the program. Now he has to take it to the next step…. the top. He has about three years to get it done.
Agree on the talent part...He scored 11 points in a National Title game, so he obviously has talent. I don't know if we're completely using him to suit his skill set (he's drifting around on the perimeter and taking too many 3's, when he's never been a good 3 point shooter). I'd love to see him a little more in a pick and roll, maybe playing a bit in the high post, etc. And I want to see him crashing the boards a lot more (Cam Wynter had a better defensive rebounding rate than Puff, and he currently gets less Defensive Boards than Kanye...we need more out of our 4).Puff strikes me as a guy who grew up in his big brother's shadow and got comfortable in it. He really seems to coast and doesn't assert himself. He clearly has the talent to be better than he's showing us.
15 or 20years ago, a player like O'Boyle would have been one of the two or three best players on PSU's team. as much as people criticize the program it actually has come a long way. really all the coaches contributed to that but I think the most important one was Chambers. he broke down the crazy perceptions that we couldn't recruit like our peersO'Boyle doesn't really seem to fit Rhoades' style of play either. Sure he can hit a couple 3's IF he's left open. But watching him scamper around trying to find and guard his man who is usually much more physical than he is makes him look a little lost at times. And he tends to end up on the floor too often. Wonder if Lilley seemingly playing better will cut down on O'Boyle's minutes against the more physical teams on the schedule.