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How long does Harbaugh stay at UM?

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Calling out all you Amazing Carnacs out there.

How long is Harbaugh treated like a diety by Wolverine fans?

It's been two years and yes he's had success but in the important categories to Wolverine fans, he's 0-2 vs. Ohio State and zero Big 10 titles despite a talent-laden senior team this past season. In 2017, it's likely Harbaugh will be 0-3 in both meaningful areas.

When will the honeymoon with Harbaugh end and does he go back to the NFL? How many years of good will has Harbaugh should he not beat Ohio State or win a Big 10 title?
 
Harbaugh's got a huge contract, so the NFL ain't calling until he shows better than he has. Rumbling in Ann Arbor start in two years unless he starts beating OSU/wins Big Ten titles.
 
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He makes a lot of money and pretty much gets what he wants so maybe he stays put for a good while.
 
I think many here just want him to leave. I don't believe for a second he's going anywhere. He's dealt with NFL owners & GMs. I think he's very happy running Michigan and him staying at Michigan is good for the Big Ten & Penn State. I want to play great teams and deal with elite recruiters.
 
He is PSU's worst nightmare! Just don't lose your new OC and depend on Franklin to have to coach again. Remember what happened to MSU when they lost Narduzzi.
 
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He is PSU's worst nightmare! Just don't lose your new OC and depend on Franklin to have to coach again. Remember what happened to MSU when they lost Narduzzi.
Our worst nightmare? Really? We must be afraid of his third place finishes.
 
Harbaugh's got a huge contract, so the NFL ain't calling until he shows better than he has. Rumbling in Ann Arbor start in two years unless he starts beating OSU/wins Big Ten titles.
I wonder the amount of debt Penn State is in or will shortly compared to UM?

Michigan athletic department $240M in debt
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Rick Osentoski-USA TODAY Sports / Reuters
Jim Harbaugh and his Michigan football team may be off to Italy this spring thanks to an anonymous donor footing the bill, but that doesn't mean the athletic department as a whole is just as lucky.

The university's athletic department is currently $240 million in debt, according to Bill Shea of Crain's.

Even with an average attendance number of 110,468 fans last season (tops in all of college football), a large and deep pocketed alumni base, the athletic department still must be careful with how it manages it debt, especially with more and more people cutting out cable.

"We watch very closely with what's happening to ESPN," said Kevin Hegarty, UM's executive vice president and chief financial officer.

The root of the massive number of debt comes from new facilities being built and renovations to existing ones, such as Michigan Stadium, which received a $9.1-million renovation in 2011.

Michigan's debt is expected to grow to $371 million by 2046, which is still lower than Cal's current $445-million debt.

"We are constantly in the market, looking for opportunity to take advantage of reduced interest rates," Hegarty said. "We'll manage that down as much as we can."

Beginning in 2019, Michigan will be making $20 million a year in debt payments, before dropping to $15.7 million in 2022 and continuing at that number until 2036.

Hegarty acknowledged the large sum owed each year, but stated increased revenues will be able to offset the increased debt payments and even lower interest, and more can be paid on the principal.

A reason for that is due to the Big Ten signing a new six-year media rights deal with ESPN, that coupled with FOX and CBS Sports, would bring in $2.64 billion over six years, roughly $188.6 million to each school during that duration.

"We plan conservatively," Hegarty said, who added the university as a whole carries a $2.1-billion debt total.

If problems arise, Hegarty also mentioned ticket price increases would go into effect, to help offset any losses occurred elsewhere.
 
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Ding Ding Ding. I think the party ends when he finishes 3rd in the East the next 2 seasons. 9 million is way too much for that performance
When you look at UM and the B10 East, 3rd Place is actually like last place. UM can't really get much lower. And Harbaugh is not expected to be looking up at OSU and PSU/MSU every year.
Another 'last' place B10 East finish and Harbaugh is definitely on the hot seat, and there will be rumblings come November.
 
I wonder the amount of debt Penn State is in or will shortly be compared to UM?

Michigan athletic department $240M in debt
by McKenzie Dalgleish 21h ago
cropped_USPW_992151.jpg


Rick Osentoski-USA TODAY Sports / Reuters
Jim Harbaugh and his Michigan football team may be off to Italy this spring thanks to an anonymous donor footing the bill, but that doesn't mean the athletic department as a whole is just as lucky.

The university's athletic department is currently $240 million in debt, according to Bill Shea of Crain's.

Even with an average attendance number of 110,468 fans last season (tops in all of college football), a large and deep pocketed alumni base, the athletic department still must be careful with how it manages it debt, especially with more and more people cutting out cable.

"We watch very closely with what's happening to ESPN," said Kevin Hegarty, UM's executive vice president and chief financial officer.

The root of the massive number of debt comes from new facilities being built and renovations to existing ones, such as Michigan Stadium, which received a $9.1-million renovation in 2011.

Michigan's debt is expected to grow to $371 million by 2046, which is still lower than Cal's current $445-million debt.

"We are constantly in the market, looking for opportunity to take advantage of reduced interest rates," Hegarty said. "We'll manage that down as much as we can."

Beginning in 2019, Michigan will be making $20 million a year in debt payments, before dropping to $15.7 million in 2022 and continuing at that number until 2036.

Hegarty acknowledged the large sum owed each year, but stated increased revenues will be able to offset the increased debt payments and even lower interest, and more can be paid on the principal.

A reason for that is due to the Big Ten signing a new six-year media rights deal with ESPN, that coupled with FOX and CBS Sports, would bring in $2.64 billion over six years, roughly $188.6 million to each school during that duration.

"We plan conservatively," Hegarty said, who added the university as a whole carries a $2.1-billion debt total.

If problems arise, Hegarty also mentioned ticket price increases would go into effect, to help offset any losses occurred elsewhere.
maybe we could issue 100 yr bonds like Cal?
 
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He is PSU's worst nightmare! Just don't lose your new OC and depend on Franklin to have to coach again. Remember what happened to MSU when they lost Narduzzi.

After Narduzzi left MSU, Sparty won the Big 10 title and was selected as one of the four teams for the college football playoff.
 
Harbaugh's got a huge contract, so the NFL ain't calling until he shows better than he has. Rumbling in Ann Arbor start in two years unless he starts beating OSU/wins Big Ten titles.
The thing is, he's got a tough row to hoe, what with the caliber of OSU and PSU's resurgence in the same division.
 
Lose again to Ohio State this year - and he'll be facing his first legitimate heat among the fan base. That would make JH 0-3 vs. OSU --- and Urban 6-0 (in his time in Columbus, he did lose a game as Gators coach) vs. Michigan.
 
Lose again to Ohio State this year - and he'll be facing his first legitimate heat among the fan base. That would make JH 0-3 vs. OSU --- and Urban 6-0 (in his time in Columbus, he did lose a game as Gators coach) vs. Michigan.
I truly believe he'll see his first loss to PSU this year too. If he finishes 3rd in the Division again, the grumbling will be loud.
 
I truly believe he'll see his first loss to PSU this year too. If he finishes 3rd in the Division again, the grumbling will be loud.

I agree that PSU beats U-M in 2017. It's an unfavorable matchup for U-M: the younger less experienced team, against the defending conference champions, on the road. Because of such, a loss in Happy Valley is forgivable.

But the OSU/U-M game is in Ann Arbor this year, and also at the end of the year (giving a young team time to grow).

JH doesn't need to win the B1G in 2017. But he does need to beat Ohio State ......
 
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Calling out all you Amazing Carnacs out there.

How long is Harbaugh treated like a diety by Wolverine fans?

It's been two years and yes he's had success but in the important categories to Wolverine fans, he's 0-2 vs. Ohio State and zero Big 10 titles despite a talent-laden senior team this past season. In 2017, it's likely Harbaugh will be 0-3 in both meaningful areas.

When will the honeymoon with Harbaugh end and does he go back to the NFL? How many years of good will has Harbaugh should he not beat Ohio State or win a Big 10 title?

He stays. He enjoys the sleepovers with recruits.
 
I think he's there as long as he wants to be...or even with mediocre performance, 4 more yrs minimum. I expect most UM fans would think it fair to allow him to get his guys in the program and coach them up. He's done pretty remarkably well thus far. That said - even money chance that within the next year he loses his mind (I mean in a batsh*t crazy, institutionalized sort of way), goes Woody Hayes, decides he needs to get a Super Bowl ring like his brother, becomes a shepherd in Tibet, etc., etc., etc....
 
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