I’d be willing to trade….
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Day underachieves. Their talent is on par with Alabama and Georgia for years but they cannot get it done in the playoffs. Once or twice can be chalked up to some excuse or another. But consistently for many years, Ohio St has had top 3 talent that is head and shoulders above even top 10 talent yet they cannot get it done on the national stage.
PSU has consistently had top 20 talent recently, every once in awhile a top 10 class sprinkled in. We are performing just about on par or slightly above that talent.
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Are you intentionally ignoring the past two years or...
This game is going to be a seminal moment for Franklin. If we see improvement in what the game plan is on both sides and that the team is highly prepared and ready for the Utes, then I see a very strong upside to the next few years. But if we see dumb calls, poor time management, and a beat down, then I think the ice will thin very quickly, regardless of his contract. Will be very difficult for Penn State to fill seats and beg for stadium renovation funding with the same old outcome against ranked opponents.
I’d be willing to trade several Penn State “fans” on this board for a box of kicking tees and a poster to be named later
It really has been--guessing we're all just shy of 20 right now
Day is not one of them but there are about 20 coaches I would trade Franklin for in a heart beat, several in the conference.
Big 10 is weak. Everyone one on this board overrates the competition in the conference. So when Big 10 teams have to play elite teams they get beat. PennState will end up in the top ten without beating a top 30-35 team.
Hyperbolic statement. There are perhaps 2 in-conference for whom I’d trade Franklin: Day and now Fickell (Harbaugh is too weird for me - but certainly successful). Nationally, a few more: Smart, Saban, Riley, maybe Sweeney (maybe not), maybe the LSU coach (maybe not), Kyle W the Utah coach, perhaps. Which others?
Franklin is a good coach. Franklin is not a great coach. Franklin is a very good recruiter - for some positions. Franklin is not a great recruiter. At issue: Much of Nittany Nation wants a great coach, and thinks PSU is paying for a great coach, but doesnt have one. Of course, those PSUers are absolutely correct, and the others content with paying for great and getting good are completely wrong.
Day wouldn’t be able to get the talent at our school like he does in Columbus. Just reality. At PSU he would be a 9-4 type coach. He was handed the keys to the kingdom in tOSU and finished what 11-2 the last couple of years. Great offensive mind who got a ready made job. That’s a hard job to f up.
Keep the $20 million.
Just go root for oh-high-ya and you'll have Day.
And we'll have one less cryer here.
Who care what you would do? You anteing up the $20 million?
Even less people care about who you would trade for Franklin.
Not hyperbolic at all. Harbaugh, Fickell, Rule, Ferentz, Fleck, Fitzgerald. All are better coaches than Franklin. I would trade him for anyone of them in a heart beat. Tucker is probably on the list as well.
I think Franklin is a solid to good coach and a solid to good, but well above average recruiter. You are correct, we are paying for a great coach but only getting a solid to good one on his best day/month/season. I am not content with paying for a great coach and getting a coach that isn't getting it done on or off the field.
I'd trade you for a used mouthpiece.
He wants us to trade Franklin because he's a Michigan fan. People need to start ignoring Wally 7-5 Breen and GoingCommando4OhioSt. They are fans of other programs here to stir up $hit.
Fickells last game vs OSU was a 42-0 loss. Fitzgerald???? No.
Harbaugh is the only one that has proven to be better. It would be interesting to see what Fleck and Fitz could do here but it's tough to say they're better. Fickell and Ferentz are nos for me. We'll see what Fickell does now and maybe I'll buy.
For the record, Franklin was my top choice for the job when he got it. We dodged a huge bullet by not hiring Golden. It just doesn't mean he gets 20 years to get us to the next level
He is doing a really good job under some difficult circumstances that some won’t or can’t admit. We don’t have the resources of most of the programs who are ahead of us like tOSU and never will.
Why do you think we don't have the resources? Money isn't an issue here at all.
Matt Rhule; you mean the second coming of Vince Lombardi who won one conference championship while coaching Temple in whatever league it was playing at the time. BFD
No thank you! Ryan Day and maybe Fickell. An argument can be made for Harbaugh, but he’s so strange and I don’t think he’d work out at PSU - so I’m a no thanks on him. The other conference coaches are a big No from me.
you have to be impressed with Franklin and staff‘s Rose Bowl prep and coaching. Credit where it is due.
I dont understand the Rhule love affair at all. Good luck to him in Nebraska but I'd keep Franklin
Wouldn't do you much good without Day's roster. See if you can get Ohio State to throw in their receivers.
Similar to Lincoln Riley, talent will follow Day -- whether it be the portal or recruiting high school athletes. They both put a lot of guys in the NFL.
I would be willing to trade about a dozen of our “fans” for @Hail2PittPanthers and a Rutgers poster to be named later…….
It's what it's all about. So much of Ohio State's success the last 30 years has been top quality position coaching. LJ Sr. gets great D-line recruits because he puts them in the NFL. Poindexter coaches Brisker and Brown and all of a sudden PSU doesn't have room for all the great safety prospects who want to come.
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