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I feel really crappy this morning after see this article and thought why should I be the only to feel crappy, so I'm sharing. I really & truly hate most people anymore.......tying Joe to Cosby WTF.

"Most schools honor their legends, we fire ours".


The Paterno-Cosby connection (column)


Mike Argento, margento@ydr.com 8:03 a.m. EDT September 14, 2016
Penn State takes on a school this week that has its own problems with one of its legends.

Until the Sandusky scandal, the worst thing Joe Paterno ever did, as far as fans and observers of the program were concerned, was run the ball twice up the middle in the '79 Sugar Bowl, costing the Nittany Lions a shot at upsetting Alabama and winning a national championship.

Yes, those were more innocent times, a kind of idyllic, gauzy memory faded by time and the horrors to come.

The point is, you can't jump into the Wayback Machine and change the past.

Yet the university seems to want to, choosing to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Joe Paterno stepping onto the turf at Beaver Stadium as head coach before Saturday's game against Temple.


THE YORK DAILY RECORD

Should Penn State honor Joe Paterno?




Of course, Paterno is gone, his legacy, at least outside the cozy confines of Happy Valley, in tatters. The Paterno apologists, those living in the PSU bubble, don't believe that for a minute. They still think the guy did no wrong, even if the preponderance of the evidence indicates otherwise.

There is no reason to continue to re-litigate what Joe knew and when he knew it. There is no point. The die has been cast, the sides picked. Either you believe that Paterno had enabled a monster to prey on little boys, or you believe that Paterno was framed and that the evidence against him was all fabricated and that he had no idea what was going on – that he was St. JoePa of Mount Nittany.

Neither side is completely right. Paterno's legacy is, well, complicated. He was a flawed human being, as we all are, and his mistakes, or conscious decisions, to favor football over protecting children from a predator, or whatever you chose to believe, were legion.

Yes, Paterno did a lot of good for the university, his players and the students at Penn State. And yes, he may have done an incredible amount of harm to Jerry Sandusky's victims. Both of those things can be true, although trying to convince Paterno dead-enders of that is an impossible task, the world being a black-and-white place with no gray.

Anyway, the university's decision to honor the coach before Saturday's game is curious. And it indicates that Happy Valley is still an insular place, like that town in the Stephen King novel sealed off from the rest of the world by an impenetrable dome.

Outside that bubble, it appears to be yet another instance in which Penn State doesn't get it. Already, according to a column in the Detroit News, an entrepreneur in Michigan has printed up a bunch of maize-and-blue T-shirts emblazoned with "JoePa knew" and plans to sell them prior to next week's Penn State game in Ann Arbor, donating the profits to child welfare agencies.

And elsewhere, there are numerous comments on the Intertubes suggesting that the best way to honor Paterno is with a 30-year-long moment of silence.

THE YORK DAILY RECORD

Local students manage backlash from Paterno editorial


Yet others have suggested that Penn State honoring Paterno is akin to Temple honoring its most illustrious alum, Bill Cosby – pointing out the coincidence that the commemoration will come before a game against a school that has had its problem with one of its legends. In this context, "illustrious" means "notorious," or "creepy."

That is, of course, absurd – kind of like comparing apples to cocker spaniels.

Superficially, the two things may be kind of similar. Cosby was every white person's favorite black grandfather for a while, peddling Jell-O pudding and yelling at kids to pull their pants up and get off his lawn, just as Paterno was everybody's favorite cranky Sicilian grandpa yelling at kids to pull up their pants and get off his lawn.

Yet Cosby is himself an alleged monster. If you believe the allegations against him, he preyed upon young women, drugging them and doing terrible things. Paterno, if you believe the allegations, enabled a monster. Cosby may be Temple's most famous alum and a former member of its board of trustees. When the allegations started piling up, Cosby resigned from the board.

Paterno was the face of Penn State and worked for the university for more than 60 years and was fired when the allegations were leveled against him. The university, against some strident opposition, has been trying to distance itself from the old coach, tearing down his statue and trying to let the past lie in the past.

Sure, it doesn't seem quite right comparing the two, but you would never catch Temple having anything to do with Cosby now. Cosby is dead to Temple now.

But Penn State still feels it has to honor Paterno.

It's just not a good idea.


THE YORK DAILY RECORD

Premature adulation for JoePa (editorial)


How the university is handling it is even worse. The athletic department issued terse releases, not explaining anything, only saying it planned to go ahead with the commemoration, not offering any details or even paying lip service to the victims of the scandal.

Coach James Franklin, asked about it at his weekly press conference, said: “That's something that is a decision that our administration makes. Again, we're so consumed with graduating our players. We're so consumed with getting our players ready to play and be successful on the football field and make great decisions in the community. That's our focus.

“I think as you guys know, I was one of the first people in my opening press conference to show my respect for the history and traditions and all the wonderful things that have happened here. But after that, guys, there are a lot of things that I think people hit me up on Twitter about and questions that I get asked that I'm not involved in. Those things are for the administration."

Say what you will about Franklin as a coach, but the man knows when to punt.

Completely uninformed prediction: Last week, I was remiss in making my completely uninformed prediction for the outcome of the Penn State-Pitt game. Had I done so, I think I would have predicted Penn State losing by three after a chance to take the lead late in the fourth quarter was wiped out by an interception in the end zone. (This prediction business is so much easier if you wait until after the fact.)

This week, I think Penn State wants to bounce back from last week and show that, perhaps, they have practiced tackling and stuff. And they are probably seeking revenge for last year's embarrassing loss to Temple.

http://www.ydr.com/story/sports/col.../14/paterno-cosby-connection-column/90308392/
 
"Others" have said that Paterno not only covered up what Sandusky was, BUT helped in the assassination of JFK AND provide the shovels (see, some evidence) to bury Jimmy Hoffa under his Statue at PSU !!
I have this from some very "reliable sources". Pretty much the same sources that the "extended" media (apparently that's me, since I'm, writing this) have used as evidence of Paterno wrong doing.

I guess since I responded to this dribble, I'm part of the problem.
 
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So on one hand, he says the worst thing he ever did was run the ball twice up the middle in the '79 Sugar Bowl, costing the Nittany Lions a shot at upsetting Alabama and winning a national championship. But then somehow also believes that Paterno had enabled a monster to prey on little boys. Those two thoughts can not co-exist together.

One is proven by years of example, one has no proof.
 
"Others" have said that Paterno not only covered up what Sandusky was, BUT helped in the assassination of JFK AND provide the shovels (see, some evidence) to bury Jimmy Hoffa under his Statue at PSU !!
I have this from some very "reliable sources". Pretty much the same sources that the "extended" media (apparently that's me, since I'm, writing this) have used as evidence of Paterno wrong doing.

I guess since I responded to this dribble, I'm part of the problem.
Love it, do you also write "fiction" dawgduice? :cool: post
 
"They still think the guy did no wrong, even if the preponderance of the evidence indicates otherwise."

Shocked he didn't cite any evidence. I can't believe people can write this stuff with a straight face. The preponderance of the evidence indicates that he did no wrong.
 
So on one hand, he says the worst thing he ever did was run the ball twice up the middle in the '79 Sugar Bowl, costing the Nittany Lions a shot at upsetting Alabama and winning a national championship. But then somehow also believes that Paterno had enabled a monster to prey on little boys. Those two thoughts can not co-exist together.

One is proven by years of example, one has no proof.

That's what is most telling. He sits Jurivicous (sp) for class infractions and kicks Enis off the team for agent related issues. Costs us any chance against UF. But, JoePa conspired to protect a pedophile?
 
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The damage is permanent, delivered to the prostitute media by the BOT. That's the deal and there isn't a thing we can do now to change the narrative. Oh yeah, this Paterno acknowledgement has been yet another PR disaster.
 
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We live in a nation of idiots. Caring about what some of them think seems like a huge waste of energy.

True that. And a nation where most people have too much time on their hands and are in desperate need of self validation.
 
Here's a copy of the e-mail I sent to Mr. Argento. I'll see what kind of reply, if any, I get.

Read your "article" -- calling it an article is giving it way more credit than it truly deserves, and I was wondering about your use of the phrase "preponderance of evidence" against Paterno that he knowingly allowed Sandusky to molest kids for 40 years, and covered up for him because ???

1. Could you provide me with this evidence you claim to have? Providing links from 20 different papers of the same wire story does not count. Providing links to 50 editorials from "sportswriters" opining on that same story doesn't count either. Don't provide me with allegations that have come from unnamed sources that have not been vetted or cross-examined in a courtroom setting.

2. Give me your explanation why you think Paterno would have covered up Sandusky's crimes for 40 years.

I'll expect your prompt reply, since you have plenty of time to get back to me. God knows it can't take you more than 10 minutes to come up with the drivel you publish.
Thank you.
 
That's what is most telling. He sits Jurivicous (sp) for class infractions and kicks Enis off the team for agent related issues. Costs us any chance against UF. But, JoePa conspired to protect a pedophile?

I use this example all of the time. Say this out loud and there is no way a rational person could believe this idiotic piece of fiction. In fact, I believe he'd be hailed as even more of a hero for turning in a predator. That said, I really don't care what these no-nothings and hacks write. Michigan Stadium wants to stay silent, fine. That damn stadium is the quietest 100K+ stadium in the free world to begin with so we won't notice much of a difference.
 
Isn't the guy who came up with the idea to sell the tee shirts and the guy who came up with the silent protest idea the same guy? Didn't he come up with the silent protest to replace the tee shirt idea because he didnt have the guts to face the backlash? More stellar research done by a so called journalist?
 
"They still think the guy did no wrong, even if the preponderance of the evidence indicates otherwise."

Shocked he didn't cite any evidence. I can't believe people can write this stuff with a straight face. The preponderance of the evidence indicates that he did no wrong.
Yeah, I noticed that paragraph. I also thought the following one was a doozy:

"Neither side is completely right. Paterno's legacy is, well, complicated. He was a flawed human being, as we all are, and his mistakes, or conscious decisions, to favor football over protecting children from a predator, or whatever you chose to believe, were legion."

Wait, I thought neither side was completely right. LOL, screw this guy and the horse he rode in on....
 
Well, actually did get a response from Argento, as follows.


Thanks for reading.


The evidence is clearly in the public record and includes the emails between administrators, depositions filed in the civil lawsuit between the university and its insurance company, McQueary's testimony from Sandusky's trial and in proceedings against Curley, Schultz and Spanier and Paterno's own grand jury testimony.



My only explanation for why Paterno wouldn't report the allegation and why the administration didn't report them is that they believed they were protecting the university and the football program.



I know that won't help. But that's my explanation.


Again, thanks for reading and taking the time to respond to my work.



Regards,




Mike Argento

Obviously, I will respond to such a weak effort. Wasn't aware that there were proceedings against CSS for McQueary to testify in.
 
Well, actually did get a response from Argento, as follows.


Thanks for reading.


The evidence is clearly in the public record and includes the emails between administrators, depositions filed in the civil lawsuit between the university and its insurance company, McQueary's testimony from Sandusky's trial and in proceedings against Curley, Schultz and Spanier and Paterno's own grand jury testimony.



My only explanation for why Paterno wouldn't report the allegation and why the administration didn't report them is that they believed they were protecting the university and the football program.



I know that won't help. But that's my explanation.


Again, thanks for reading and taking the time to respond to my work.



Regards,




Mike Argento

Obviously, I will respond to such a weak effort. Wasn't aware that there were proceedings against CSS for McQueary to testify in.

Ask him... since none of that stuff actually implicates Paterno, ask him for more specifics. If the evidence is so clear, he should be able to provide specifics. Ask him what emails, and what is so compelling about them. Ask him which testimony, the vague stuff that wasn't cross examined, hasn't been heard to verify it's accuracy, and was qualified multiple times?

Ask him about Freeh's shattered reputation and the fact that he called his own report just an opinion.

Ask him about Linda Kelly's statement praising Joe, and Frank Fina's clearing Joe.

Ask him to explain the logic behind covering for someone who Joe didn't really like (which is well documented) and in the 70s was a lowly linebackers coach. When turning in him would have actually been good publicity.

Ask him to explain why the school reported it to Sandusky's boss at TSM if they were trying to cover it up.

Ask him whyThe NCAA modeled their guildeline for handling the situation after Paterno's actions.

Ask him why he is OK letting the proffesionals that actually failed those kids get off scott free by focusing on Paterno.

Tell him you can give him specifics as to why he is not guilty, so he should be able to easily give you specifics to why is guilty.
 
I feel really crappy this morning after see this article and thought why should I be the only to feel crappy, so I'm sharing. I really & truly hate most people anymore.......tying Joe to Cosby WTF.

"Most schools honor their legends, we fire ours".


The Paterno-Cosby connection (column)


Mike Argento, margento@ydr.com 8:03 a.m. EDT September 14, 2016
Penn State takes on a school this week that has its own problems with one of its legends.

Until the Sandusky scandal, the worst thing Joe Paterno ever did, as far as fans and observers of the program were concerned, was run the ball twice up the middle in the '79 Sugar Bowl, costing the Nittany Lions a shot at upsetting Alabama and winning a national championship.

Yes, those were more innocent times, a kind of idyllic, gauzy memory faded by time and the horrors to come.

The point is, you can't jump into the Wayback Machine and change the past.

Yet the university seems to want to, choosing to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Joe Paterno stepping onto the turf at Beaver Stadium as head coach before Saturday's game against Temple.


THE YORK DAILY RECORD

Should Penn State honor Joe Paterno?




Of course, Paterno is gone, his legacy, at least outside the cozy confines of Happy Valley, in tatters. The Paterno apologists, those living in the PSU bubble, don't believe that for a minute. They still think the guy did no wrong, even if the preponderance of the evidence indicates otherwise.

There is no reason to continue to re-litigate what Joe knew and when he knew it. There is no point. The die has been cast, the sides picked. Either you believe that Paterno had enabled a monster to prey on little boys, or you believe that Paterno was framed and that the evidence against him was all fabricated and that he had no idea what was going on – that he was St. JoePa of Mount Nittany.

Neither side is completely right. Paterno's legacy is, well, complicated. He was a flawed human being, as we all are, and his mistakes, or conscious decisions, to favor football over protecting children from a predator, or whatever you chose to believe, were legion.

Yes, Paterno did a lot of good for the university, his players and the students at Penn State. And yes, he may have done an incredible amount of harm to Jerry Sandusky's victims. Both of those things can be true, although trying to convince Paterno dead-enders of that is an impossible task, the world being a black-and-white place with no gray.

Anyway, the university's decision to honor the coach before Saturday's game is curious. And it indicates that Happy Valley is still an insular place, like that town in the Stephen King novel sealed off from the rest of the world by an impenetrable dome.

Outside that bubble, it appears to be yet another instance in which Penn State doesn't get it. Already, according to a column in the Detroit News, an entrepreneur in Michigan has printed up a bunch of maize-and-blue T-shirts emblazoned with "JoePa knew" and plans to sell them prior to next week's Penn State game in Ann Arbor, donating the profits to child welfare agencies.

And elsewhere, there are numerous comments on the Intertubes suggesting that the best way to honor Paterno is with a 30-year-long moment of silence.

THE YORK DAILY RECORD

Local students manage backlash from Paterno editorial


Yet others have suggested that Penn State honoring Paterno is akin to Temple honoring its most illustrious alum, Bill Cosby – pointing out the coincidence that the commemoration will come before a game against a school that has had its problem with one of its legends. In this context, "illustrious" means "notorious," or "creepy."

That is, of course, absurd – kind of like comparing apples to cocker spaniels.

Superficially, the two things may be kind of similar. Cosby was every white person's favorite black grandfather for a while, peddling Jell-O pudding and yelling at kids to pull their pants up and get off his lawn, just as Paterno was everybody's favorite cranky Sicilian grandpa yelling at kids to pull up their pants and get off his lawn.

Yet Cosby is himself an alleged monster. If you believe the allegations against him, he preyed upon young women, drugging them and doing terrible things. Paterno, if you believe the allegations, enabled a monster. Cosby may be Temple's most famous alum and a former member of its board of trustees. When the allegations started piling up, Cosby resigned from the board.

Paterno was the face of Penn State and worked for the university for more than 60 years and was fired when the allegations were leveled against him. The university, against some strident opposition, has been trying to distance itself from the old coach, tearing down his statue and trying to let the past lie in the past.

Sure, it doesn't seem quite right comparing the two, but you would never catch Temple having anything to do with Cosby now. Cosby is dead to Temple now.

But Penn State still feels it has to honor Paterno.

It's just not a good idea.


THE YORK DAILY RECORD

Premature adulation for JoePa (editorial)


How the university is handling it is even worse. The athletic department issued terse releases, not explaining anything, only saying it planned to go ahead with the commemoration, not offering any details or even paying lip service to the victims of the scandal.

Coach James Franklin, asked about it at his weekly press conference, said: “That's something that is a decision that our administration makes. Again, we're so consumed with graduating our players. We're so consumed with getting our players ready to play and be successful on the football field and make great decisions in the community. That's our focus.

“I think as you guys know, I was one of the first people in my opening press conference to show my respect for the history and traditions and all the wonderful things that have happened here. But after that, guys, there are a lot of things that I think people hit me up on Twitter about and questions that I get asked that I'm not involved in. Those things are for the administration."

Say what you will about Franklin as a coach, but the man knows when to punt.

Completely uninformed prediction: Last week, I was remiss in making my completely uninformed prediction for the outcome of the Penn State-Pitt game. Had I done so, I think I would have predicted Penn State losing by three after a chance to take the lead late in the fourth quarter was wiped out by an interception in the end zone. (This prediction business is so much easier if you wait until after the fact.)

This week, I think Penn State wants to bounce back from last week and show that, perhaps, they have practiced tackling and stuff. And they are probably seeking revenge for last year's embarrassing loss to Temple.

http://www.ydr.com/story/sports/col.../14/paterno-cosby-connection-column/90308392/
A man named Joe Paterno
Well, actually did get a response from Argento, as follows.


Thanks for reading.


The evidence is clearly in the public record and includes the emails between administrators, depositions filed in the civil lawsuit between the university and its insurance company, McQueary's testimony from Sandusky's trial and in proceedings against Curley, Schultz and Spanier and Paterno's own grand jury testimony.



My only explanation for why Paterno wouldn't report the allegation and why the administration didn't report them is that they believed they were protecting the university and the football program.



I know that won't help. But that's my explanation.


Again, thanks for reading and taking the time to respond to my work.



Regards,




Mike Argento

Obviously, I will respond to such a weak effort. Wasn't aware that there were proceedings against CSS for McQueary to testify in.
A man named Joe Paterno took this University on his back and moved it forward. I do not believe any of this!! I know he said he should have done more (taken out of context). He always took responsibility for everything. This goes from a bad game to something happening outside the program, it was just his way of living and outlook on life. If more people had the attitude of I should have done more...what a great world we would live in, instead of "it's not my fault".
 
Yeah, I noticed that paragraph. I also thought the following one was a doozy:

"Neither side is completely right. Paterno's legacy is, well, complicated. He was a flawed human being, as we all are, and his mistakes, or conscious decisions, to favor football over protecting children from a predator, or whatever you chose to believe, were legion."

Wait, I thought neither side was completely right. LOL, screw this guy and the horse he rode in on....


Just another Paterno hating turd.
 
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I emailed him also and dealt with some the facts(?????) he offered Royal-Coaster in his response. I can't wait to see if I get a reply. The guy doesn't know what a fact is. Using the 1970's depositions as proof that Joe was culpable just proves how he doesn't understand the difference between allegations and fact.
 
I emailed him also and dealt with some the facts(?????) he offered Royal-Coaster in his response. I can't wait to see if I get a reply. The guy doesn't know what a fact is. Using the 1970's depositions as proof that Joe was culpable just proves how he doesn't understand the difference between allegations and fact.

Nobody would ever lie in a deposition especially if it can't corroborated and especially if they were given a few million dollars to make the accusation. Nope would never happen. A deposition is like if God himself spoke those words.
 
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I feel really crappy this morning after see this article and thought why should I be the only to feel crappy, so I'm sharing. I really & truly hate most people anymore.......tying Joe to Cosby WTF.

"Most schools honor their legends, we fire ours".


The Paterno-Cosby connection (column)


Mike Argento, margento@ydr.com 8:03 a.m. EDT September 14, 2016
Penn State takes on a school this week that has its own problems with one of its legends.

Until the Sandusky scandal, the worst thing Joe Paterno ever did, as far as fans and observers of the program were concerned, was run the ball twice up the middle in the '79 Sugar Bowl, costing the Nittany Lions a shot at upsetting Alabama and winning a national championship.

Yes, those were more innocent times, a kind of idyllic, gauzy memory faded by time and the horrors to come.

The point is, you can't jump into the Wayback Machine and change the past.

Yet the university seems to want to, choosing to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Joe Paterno stepping onto the turf at Beaver Stadium as head coach before Saturday's game against Temple.


THE YORK DAILY RECORD

Should Penn State honor Joe Paterno?




Of course, Paterno is gone, his legacy, at least outside the cozy confines of Happy Valley, in tatters. The Paterno apologists, those living in the PSU bubble, don't believe that for a minute. They still think the guy did no wrong, even if the preponderance of the evidence indicates otherwise.

There is no reason to continue to re-litigate what Joe knew and when he knew it. There is no point. The die has been cast, the sides picked. Either you believe that Paterno had enabled a monster to prey on little boys, or you believe that Paterno was framed and that the evidence against him was all fabricated and that he had no idea what was going on – that he was St. JoePa of Mount Nittany.

Neither side is completely right. Paterno's legacy is, well, complicated. He was a flawed human being, as we all are, and his mistakes, or conscious decisions, to favor football over protecting children from a predator, or whatever you chose to believe, were legion.

Yes, Paterno did a lot of good for the university, his players and the students at Penn State. And yes, he may have done an incredible amount of harm to Jerry Sandusky's victims. Both of those things can be true, although trying to convince Paterno dead-enders of that is an impossible task, the world being a black-and-white place with no gray.

Anyway, the university's decision to honor the coach before Saturday's game is curious. And it indicates that Happy Valley is still an insular place, like that town in the Stephen King novel sealed off from the rest of the world by an impenetrable dome.

Outside that bubble, it appears to be yet another instance in which Penn State doesn't get it. Already, according to a column in the Detroit News, an entrepreneur in Michigan has printed up a bunch of maize-and-blue T-shirts emblazoned with "JoePa knew" and plans to sell them prior to next week's Penn State game in Ann Arbor, donating the profits to child welfare agencies.

And elsewhere, there are numerous comments on the Intertubes suggesting that the best way to honor Paterno is with a 30-year-long moment of silence.

THE YORK DAILY RECORD

Local students manage backlash from Paterno editorial


Yet others have suggested that Penn State honoring Paterno is akin to Temple honoring its most illustrious alum, Bill Cosby – pointing out the coincidence that the commemoration will come before a game against a school that has had its problem with one of its legends. In this context, "illustrious" means "notorious," or "creepy."

That is, of course, absurd – kind of like comparing apples to cocker spaniels.

Superficially, the two things may be kind of similar. Cosby was every white person's favorite black grandfather for a while, peddling Jell-O pudding and yelling at kids to pull their pants up and get off his lawn, just as Paterno was everybody's favorite cranky Sicilian grandpa yelling at kids to pull up their pants and get off his lawn.

Yet Cosby is himself an alleged monster. If you believe the allegations against him, he preyed upon young women, drugging them and doing terrible things. Paterno, if you believe the allegations, enabled a monster. Cosby may be Temple's most famous alum and a former member of its board of trustees. When the allegations started piling up, Cosby resigned from the board.

Paterno was the face of Penn State and worked for the university for more than 60 years and was fired when the allegations were leveled against him. The university, against some strident opposition, has been trying to distance itself from the old coach, tearing down his statue and trying to let the past lie in the past.

Sure, it doesn't seem quite right comparing the two, but you would never catch Temple having anything to do with Cosby now. Cosby is dead to Temple now.

But Penn State still feels it has to honor Paterno.

It's just not a good idea.


THE YORK DAILY RECORD

Premature adulation for JoePa (editorial)


How the university is handling it is even worse. The athletic department issued terse releases, not explaining anything, only saying it planned to go ahead with the commemoration, not offering any details or even paying lip service to the victims of the scandal.

Coach James Franklin, asked about it at his weekly press conference, said: “That's something that is a decision that our administration makes. Again, we're so consumed with graduating our players. We're so consumed with getting our players ready to play and be successful on the football field and make great decisions in the community. That's our focus.

“I think as you guys know, I was one of the first people in my opening press conference to show my respect for the history and traditions and all the wonderful things that have happened here. But after that, guys, there are a lot of things that I think people hit me up on Twitter about and questions that I get asked that I'm not involved in. Those things are for the administration."

Say what you will about Franklin as a coach, but the man knows when to punt.

Completely uninformed prediction: Last week, I was remiss in making my completely uninformed prediction for the outcome of the Penn State-Pitt game. Had I done so, I think I would have predicted Penn State losing by three after a chance to take the lead late in the fourth quarter was wiped out by an interception in the end zone. (This prediction business is so much easier if you wait until after the fact.)

This week, I think Penn State wants to bounce back from last week and show that, perhaps, they have practiced tackling and stuff. And they are probably seeking revenge for last year's embarrassing loss to Temple.

http://www.ydr.com/story/sports/col.../14/paterno-cosby-connection-column/90308392/


They're all idiots. Brennan was at it again today as well.

Somehow they think Paterno needs to own the Sandusky scandal more than anyone as if Joe himself knowingly allowed Sandusky to prey on young boys from his own charity.... In the name of football.....

It is utterly stupid. They are all ignorant.
 
I feel really crappy this morning after see this article and thought why should I be the only to feel crappy, so I'm sharing. I really & truly hate most people anymore.......tying Joe to Cosby WTF.

"Most schools honor their legends, we fire ours".


The Paterno-Cosby connection (column)


Mike Argento, margento@ydr.com 8:03 a.m. EDT September 14, 2016
Penn State takes on a school this week that has its own problems with one of its legends.

Until the Sandusky scandal, the worst thing Joe Paterno ever did, as far as fans and observers of the program were concerned, was run the ball twice up the middle in the '79 Sugar Bowl, costing the Nittany Lions a shot at upsetting Alabama and winning a national championship.

Yes, those were more innocent times, a kind of idyllic, gauzy memory faded by time and the horrors to come.

The point is, you can't jump into the Wayback Machine and change the past.

Yet the university seems to want to, choosing to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Joe Paterno stepping onto the turf at Beaver Stadium as head coach before Saturday's game against Temple.


THE YORK DAILY RECORD

Should Penn State honor Joe Paterno?




Of course, Paterno is gone, his legacy, at least outside the cozy confines of Happy Valley, in tatters. The Paterno apologists, those living in the PSU bubble, don't believe that for a minute. They still think the guy did no wrong, even if the preponderance of the evidence indicates otherwise.

There is no reason to continue to re-litigate what Joe knew and when he knew it. There is no point. The die has been cast, the sides picked. Either you believe that Paterno had enabled a monster to prey on little boys, or you believe that Paterno was framed and that the evidence against him was all fabricated and that he had no idea what was going on – that he was St. JoePa of Mount Nittany.

Neither side is completely right. Paterno's legacy is, well, complicated. He was a flawed human being, as we all are, and his mistakes, or conscious decisions, to favor football over protecting children from a predator, or whatever you chose to believe, were legion.

Yes, Paterno did a lot of good for the university, his players and the students at Penn State. And yes, he may have done an incredible amount of harm to Jerry Sandusky's victims. Both of those things can be true, although trying to convince Paterno dead-enders of that is an impossible task, the world being a black-and-white place with no gray.

Anyway, the university's decision to honor the coach before Saturday's game is curious. And it indicates that Happy Valley is still an insular place, like that town in the Stephen King novel sealed off from the rest of the world by an impenetrable dome.

Outside that bubble, it appears to be yet another instance in which Penn State doesn't get it. Already, according to a column in the Detroit News, an entrepreneur in Michigan has printed up a bunch of maize-and-blue T-shirts emblazoned with "JoePa knew" and plans to sell them prior to next week's Penn State game in Ann Arbor, donating the profits to child welfare agencies.

And elsewhere, there are numerous comments on the Intertubes suggesting that the best way to honor Paterno is with a 30-year-long moment of silence.

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Yet others have suggested that Penn State honoring Paterno is akin to Temple honoring its most illustrious alum, Bill Cosby – pointing out the coincidence that the commemoration will come before a game against a school that has had its problem with one of its legends. In this context, "illustrious" means "notorious," or "creepy."

That is, of course, absurd – kind of like comparing apples to cocker spaniels.

Superficially, the two things may be kind of similar. Cosby was every white person's favorite black grandfather for a while, peddling Jell-O pudding and yelling at kids to pull their pants up and get off his lawn, just as Paterno was everybody's favorite cranky Sicilian grandpa yelling at kids to pull up their pants and get off his lawn.

Yet Cosby is himself an alleged monster. If you believe the allegations against him, he preyed upon young women, drugging them and doing terrible things. Paterno, if you believe the allegations, enabled a monster. Cosby may be Temple's most famous alum and a former member of its board of trustees. When the allegations started piling up, Cosby resigned from the board.

Paterno was the face of Penn State and worked for the university for more than 60 years and was fired when the allegations were leveled against him. The university, against some strident opposition, has been trying to distance itself from the old coach, tearing down his statue and trying to let the past lie in the past.

Sure, it doesn't seem quite right comparing the two, but you would never catch Temple having anything to do with Cosby now. Cosby is dead to Temple now.

But Penn State still feels it has to honor Paterno.

It's just not a good idea.


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How the university is handling it is even worse. The athletic department issued terse releases, not explaining anything, only saying it planned to go ahead with the commemoration, not offering any details or even paying lip service to the victims of the scandal.

Coach James Franklin, asked about it at his weekly press conference, said: “That's something that is a decision that our administration makes. Again, we're so consumed with graduating our players. We're so consumed with getting our players ready to play and be successful on the football field and make great decisions in the community. That's our focus.

“I think as you guys know, I was one of the first people in my opening press conference to show my respect for the history and traditions and all the wonderful things that have happened here. But after that, guys, there are a lot of things that I think people hit me up on Twitter about and questions that I get asked that I'm not involved in. Those things are for the administration."

Say what you will about Franklin as a coach, but the man knows when to punt.

Completely uninformed prediction: Last week, I was remiss in making my completely uninformed prediction for the outcome of the Penn State-Pitt game. Had I done so, I think I would have predicted Penn State losing by three after a chance to take the lead late in the fourth quarter was wiped out by an interception in the end zone. (This prediction business is so much easier if you wait until after the fact.)

This week, I think Penn State wants to bounce back from last week and show that, perhaps, they have practiced tackling and stuff. And they are probably seeking revenge for last year's embarrassing loss to Temple.

http://www.ydr.com/story/sports/col.../14/paterno-cosby-connection-column/90308392/

Besides all the other obvious crap in this article, he's also way off base about the Michigan thing. They are NOT printing or selling any T-shirts. It's like this "Mike Argento" just linked a piece and never read it. They set up a gofundme for donations to CSA prevention charities. Nothing wrong with that of course.

I had a reasonable discussion about the issues with one of the people managing the donations and hooked in the Detroit news and Neal Rubin. Suffice to say they all received a lesson why the motivation of Mr. Tim Flucht is more than a little off-base. The one young lady was very receptive, thoughtful and intelligent, unlike the trolls you normally encounter on any given day

The result is, the donations will be going to a legitimate org that teaches all over the country about PCSOs. (Is it any surprise that there is NO footprint in PA? All the faux orgs must be keeping a legit teaching org like D2L out... )
 
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