I hope Hamlin is noting the recruiting class Pitt is pulling in

[NITTANYJGK]

Only the most optimistic Pitt fan can be encouraged by Narduzzi's recruiting class. 8 commits , 1 4star, 4 low end 3stars, 2 2stars and the latest is unrated. A disaster; we recruited better than this when the scandal first broke . And they are offering 2star and unrated kids.

Can Hamlin really be considering Pitt ? Seriously?

 

[eVizions]

It worked with Whitehead. Kids want different things out of their career. If playing early and showcasing yourself is a priority, I can understand how kids like Whitehead and Hamlin could consider Pitt. How early would Hamlin get on the field at PSU? Their secondary is loaded ahead of him. At Pitt? He'll get significant playing time either his first or second year.

 

[PrideofPA]

Revis went to only 1 Bowl game in his 3 years at Pitt and they lost in epic fashion to Utah. The funny thing about Pitt fans is they will thump their chest when one of their players has a good NFL career while neglecting the fact their "program" only held the player back from actually having an outstanding college career

 

[bmw199]

He's not going to Pitt. OSU and ND are the competition.

 

[lionlurker]

Hamlin's not going to Pitt. They have no chance at all of getting many of the WPIAL kids at this point; even Wheeler is said to be visiting WVU this weekend.

The only reason Whitehead went there was because of his parents' wishes. The last time anyone saw him he was driving a big nail thru his own forehead with a mallet.

 

[Blueblood4eva]

Why be destined to hate the color Yellow for the rest of your life?

 

[Alphabets]

Whitehead. Classic example of following someone else's dreams and not your own. Hamlin won't make the same mistake.

 

[ralpieE]

Hamlin's not going to Pitt. They have no chance at all of getting many of the WPIAL kids at this point; even Wheeler is said to be visiting WVU this weekend.

The only reason Whitehead went there was because of his parents' wishes. The last time anyone saw him he was driving a big nail thru his own forehead with a mallet.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[NJPSU]

It looks like Narduzzi and staff are really poor recruiters. Usually first year coaches get a recruiting bump but Pitt's class is one worst of the Power conference teams so far.

 

[SUPERTODD]

Only the most optimistic Pitt fan can be encouraged by Narduzzi's recruiting class. 8 commits , 1 4star, 4 low end 3stars, 2 2stars and the latest is unrated. A disaster; we recruited better than this when the scandal first broke . And they are offering 2star and unrated kids.

Can Hamlin really be considering Pitt ? Seriously?

The kid with 4 stars has an awful offer list. While we are beating out some of the top teams in the nation for recruits they are beating out Illinois, Buffalo, Toledo and Kentucky for their "best" kid.

 

[sss]

I think we might see why it took Narduzzi a while to get a head coaching gig. Might be a great coordinator and Xs and Os coach, but maybe not the personality needed for a head coach (recruiting, face of the program, etc.).

 

[GuStHeCaT]

ND is a serious player here. Much more favorable depth chart than OSU or PSU plus the Catholic connection.

I, for one, am tremendously impressed with the recruiting of CBs since CJF arrived. Not to say that PSU didn't get the occasional Justin King or AJ Wallace (also a 5*, I think), but I can't remember a time when there was so much incoming talent at the position. That, and WR.

 

[PSU-Knocker]

It looks like Narduzzi and staff are really poor recruiters. Usually first year coaches get a recruiting bump but Pitt's class is one worst of the Power conference teams so far.

Their competition for athletes in this area is huge (not just PSU) and they don't have much of a tradition or following. It will be very difficult for them.

 

[rocky_dog7]

Pitt in the middle of big ten east powers, Pitt will primarily sift through leftovers after urb, James and Jim are done. They sure do talk a good game though.

 

[PSU-Knocker]

They sure do talk a good game though.

That's because of all those National Championships they have.

 

[N&B4PSU]

Only the most optimistic Pitt fan can be encouraged by Narduzzi's recruiting class. 8 commits , 1 4star, 4 low end 3stars, 2 2stars and the latest is unrated. A disaster; we recruited better than this when the scandal first broke . And they are offering 2star and unrated kids.]


not only does their only 4 star guy merit just 3 stars from 247, he's still crystal balled to msu or osu. kid has fitzgerald size, so he could turn out to be a good one if he stays.. but even money says if he gets an offer from osu or msu he flips.

 

[anon_is9z1n0h3zblb]

But Narduzzi is working hard to flip all the local kids that have verbally committed to us. That's why he's having such a hard time recruiting anyone else. They know that everyone committed to us will flip in February.

 

[rocky_dog7]

But Narduzzi is working hard to flip all the local kids that have verbally committed to us. That's why he's having such a hard time recruiting anyone else. They know that everyone committed to us will flip in February.

Well, there's only 1 considered local to Pittsburgh...

 

[BobPSU92]

That's because of all those National Championships they have.

Narduzzi's recruiting tactic is this:

"Son, come to pitt. You won't be noticed, but you'll win a couple dozen national championships."

 

[jrd23psu]

Guys, you're forgetting. Kids are lining up to play for Pitt because Darrelle Revis and Larry Fitzgerald played at Pitt. They have one more Pitt alumni in the NFL HOF than PSU. When Narduzzi mentions that these kids fall off their chairs.

 

[lionlurker]

You do wonder what is going on in Narduzzi's mind right now. He probably never realized how difficult it was going to be to recruit to Pitt, especially with JF and Urban already solidly in place, and both being better natural recruiters than him. He can make up ground if Pitt has a good season, but in order to do so they probably need to win 8 games, and I don't see that happening. And then, next year's mother lode of talent in PA will be off-limits to him, particularly if we win at least 8 games. And then Connor and Boyd are gone, and we likely defeat them 4 years in a row.

It's a very bad situation for Narduzzi. One mis-step, and he will never recover.

 

[LemonEars]

In about 10 years Pitt football will be talked about with Point Park and Duquesne. The football program is dying. Pitt will become a sports school like Georgetown. All city basketball and nothing else.

 

[BobPSU92]

Guys, you're forgetting. Kids are lining up to play for Pitt because Darrelle Revis and Larry Fitzgerald played at Pitt. They have one more Pitt alumni in the NFL HOF than PSU. When Narduzzi mentions that these kids fall off their chairs.

University of Phoenix is also recruiting very well since they can call fitzgerald an alum.

 

[bxle]

In about 10 years Pitt football will be talked about with Point Park and Duquesne. The football program is dying. Pitt will become a sports school like Georgetown. All city basketball and nothing else.

They should consider playing in a large high school stadium. At least there a few hundred fans wouldn't look so pathetic.

 

[anon_is9z1n0h3zblb]

Guys, you're forgetting. Kids are lining up to play for Pitt because Darrelle Revis and Larry Fitzgerald played at Pitt. They have one more Pitt alumni in the NFL HOF than PSU. When Narduzzi mentions that these kids fall off their chairs.

You forgot to end your last sentence with the word "laughing".

 

[anon_is9z1n0h3zblb]

In about 10 years Pitt football will be talked about with Point Park and Duquesne. The football program is dying. Pitt will become a sports school like Georgetown. All city basketball and nothing else.

I really think you're giving too much credit to their basketball program. The move to the ACC has been disastrous for them so far. They don't match up well against other ACC teams and lost their old recruiting ground. Both their FB and BB programs are the definition of mediocrity in the ACC. The only basketball program that suffered more than Pitt from the last round of realignment is probably UConn. Last year we had a higher ranked recruiting class than they did and have one so far this year also. About the only thing they have going for them right now is the Pete.

 

[BobPSU92]

I really think you're giving too much credit to their basketball program. The move to the ACC has been disastrous for them so far. They don't match up well against other ACC teams and lost their old recruiting ground. Both their FB and BB programs are the definition of mediocrity in the ACC. The only basketball program that suffered more than Pitt from the last round of realignment is probably UConn. Last year we had a higher ranked recruiting class than they did and have one so far this year also. About the only thing they have going for them right now is the Pete.

I agree about pitt men's basketball being overrated, but that's really the only thing they've been good at.

PSU is out-recruiting pitt in men's basketball? I seriously had no idea. The pitters must be going out of their minds. Now if only Chambers could get some wins. Hopefully the talent develops.

 

[Alphabets]

Penn State basketball is in a better place than Pitt basketball right now. Fact.

 

[Malvern6]

This thread is hilarious. I love coming over here and seeing the same posters who bash Pitt. It's probably the same for you guys when you visit our board. These threads are pure gold.

 

[BobPSU92]

This thread is hilarious. I love coming over here and seeing the same posters who bash Pitt. It's probably the same for you guys when you visit our board. These threads are pure gold.

Key difference: pitters who bash Penn State are delusional and have nothing to back up their claims. Penn Staters see the reality of pitt.

You signed up in 2011 but have just two posts. In other words, you were banned before the software switch. Gee, I wonder why. Buh-bye.

 

[AJSH2P]

"He's not going to Pitt." Funny, because over on our message boards everyone says "He's not going to PSU."

Hamlin's top 4 right now by all accounts are OSU, Pitt, PSU, and ND, probably in that order, and any of the schools have a realistic shot. I don't see him at ND because if he cares about depth chart and playing time, he'll stay home and go to Pitt. PSU and OSU are Pitt's competition for him. Hamlin and Ford are known to be a package deal, and Ford is on record saying he is not that high on PSU. That's a fact. That works in OSU and Pitt's favor. What's working against Pitt is the years of mediocrity Hamlin has seen first hand, and also the killer recruiting class PSU and OSU are putting together, not to mention OSU is probably the best school in the nation right now.

Hamlin visits Pitt more than any other school. That's a fact. "Well its cuz he goes to school in Oakland and he lives right there." Yeah, that has a good amount to do with it. But he likes the new staff a lot and seems to be getting a good vibe after each visit. "Well if he loves the staff so much, why hasn't he committed?" It's because Pitt hasn't shown Hamlin anything of note in his life. It's a "what have you done for me lately" situation. If Pitt can win 8-9 games this year and compete for the Coastal, I think he'll stay home. If not, PSU and OSU will be in a dead heat for his services.

As for Pitt's 2016 recruiting class, it's what you would a imagine a school's recruiting class would look like if they went 6-6 for four straight years. Narduzzi doesn't have much to sell right now because A. He hasn't won a game yet and B. Pitt has been mediocre for so long, so promises of ACC and national championships probably don't resonate much with recruits. Recruits nowadays have very short memories, so if Narduzzi can get Pitt to start winning, you'll see a few more highly rated players commit to Pitt, and maybe even some flips by signing day.

That's just my read on both situations. I try to be unbiased when I come over here on this board.

 

[ralpieE]

Key difference: pitters who bash Penn State are delusional and have nothing to back up their claims. Penn Staters see the reality of pitt.

You signed up in 2011 but have just two posts. In other words, you were banned before the software switch. Gee, I wonder why. Buh-bye.

Many of them "bank" nics for use when another gets banned. Judas/mbe has dozens.

 

[BobPSU92]

Many of them "bank" nics for use when another gets banned. Judas/mbe has dozens.

I was about to say that it fits with their real-life multiple personality disorder, but all their online personalities are the same -- stupid assholes.

 

[lionlurker]

"He's not going to Pitt." Funny, because over on our message boards everyone says "He's not going to PSU."

Hamlin's top 4 right now by all accounts are OSU, Pitt, PSU, and ND, probably in that order, and any of the schools have a realistic shot. I don't see him at ND because if he cares about depth chart and playing time, he'll stay home and go to Pitt. PSU and OSU are Pitt's competition for him. Hamlin and Ford are known to be a package deal, and Ford is on record saying he is not that high on PSU. That's a fact. That works in OSU and Pitt's favor. What's working against Pitt is the years of mediocrity Hamlin has seen first hand, and also the killer recruiting class PSU and OSU are putting together, not to mention OSU is probably the best school in the nation right now.

Hamlin visits Pitt more than any other school. That's a fact. "Well its cuz he goes to school in Oakland and he lives right there." Yeah, that has a good amount to do with it. But he likes the new staff a lot and seems to be getting a good vibe after each visit. "Well if he loves the staff so much, why hasn't he committed?" It's because Pitt hasn't shown Hamlin anything of note in his life. It's a "what have you done for me lately" situation. If Pitt can win 8-9 games this year and compete for the Coastal, I think he'll stay home. If not, PSU and OSU will be in a dead heat for his services.

As for Pitt's 2016 recruiting class, it's what you would a imagine a school's recruiting class would look like if they went 6-6 for four straight years. Narduzzi doesn't have much to sell right now because A. He hasn't won a game yet and B. Pitt has been mediocre for so long, so promises of ACC and national championships probably don't resonate much with recruits. Recruits nowadays have very short memories, so if Narduzzi can get Pitt to start winning, you'll see a few more highly rated players commit to Pitt, and maybe even some flips by signing day.

That's just my read on both situations. I try to be unbiased when I come over here on this board.

 

[lionlurker]

"He's not going to Pitt." Funny, because over on our message boards everyone says "He's not going to PSU."

Hamlin's top 4 right now by all accounts are OSU, Pitt, PSU, and ND, probably in that order, and any of the schools have a realistic shot. I don't see him at ND because if he cares about depth chart and playing time, he'll stay home and go to Pitt. PSU and OSU are Pitt's competition for him. Hamlin and Ford are known to be a package deal, and Ford is on record saying he is not that high on PSU. That's a fact. That works in OSU and Pitt's favor. What's working against Pitt is the years of mediocrity Hamlin has seen first hand, and also the killer recruiting class PSU and OSU are putting together, not to mention OSU is probably the best school in the nation right now.

Hamlin visits Pitt more than any other school. That's a fact. "Well its cuz he goes to school in Oakland and he lives right there." Yeah, that has a good amount to do with it. But he likes the new staff a lot and seems to be getting a good vibe after each visit. "Well if he loves the staff so much, why hasn't he committed?" It's because Pitt hasn't shown Hamlin anything of note in his life. It's a "what have you done for me lately" situation. If Pitt can win 8-9 games this year and compete for the Coastal, I think he'll stay home. If not, PSU and OSU will be in a dead heat for his services.

As for Pitt's 2016 recruiting class, it's what you would a imagine a school's recruiting class would look like if they went 6-6 for four straight years. Narduzzi doesn't have much to sell right now because A. He hasn't won a game yet and B. Pitt has been mediocre for so long, so promises of ACC and national championships probably don't resonate much with recruits. Recruits nowadays have very short memories, so if Narduzzi can get Pitt to start winning, you'll see a few more highly rated players commit to Pitt, and maybe even some flips by signing day.

That's just my read on both situations. I try to be unbiased when I come over here on this board.

Couple of things, my man. "Visits" don't really count when the entire CC football team shows up for 7v7, and stuff like that. So take those things out of your count. Once you do that, you'll find that his "visits" to Pitt are really about the same as the other schools, and given that he goes to school a block down the street, that is really meaningless.

For what it is worth, I'm close to the CC football program, and the word there is that it would take a miracle for Hamlin to wind up at Pitt. For the record, most folks don't think he'll end up with us, either, but to be honest, Pitt needs him a whole lot more than we do. As has been noted, we've got a whole lot of talent in the defensive backfield.

And as for worrying about the depth chart and playing time, that is just stupid. If it were as much of a factor as you Pitt folks hope, then you'd see all kinds of 5 and 4 star players staying home and playing for their local mediocre program, and you do not. That is merely wishful thinking on your part. Whitehead was the exception to this, not the rule. Generally speaking, an empty depth chart and early PT means that the team sucks. Good players don't want to play for a team that sucks, and a quick study of the destination of the top 200 players will easily prove this to you.

In so far as Ford goes, nobody can predict. But given that these guys are a year apart, that kind of package deal is stupid, anyhow. I'd be willing to wager a fair amount of money that these two wind up at different schools eventually. And, neither of them will be at Pitt.

 

[AJSH2P]

Couple of things, my man. "Visits" don't really count when the entire CC football team shows up for 7v7, and stuff like that. So take those things out of your count. Once you do that, you'll find that his "visits" to Pitt are really about the same as the other schools, and given that he goes to school a block down the street, that is really meaningless.

For what it is worth, I'm close to the CC football program, and the word there is that it would take a miracle for Hamlin to wind up at Pitt. For the record, most folks don't think he'll end up with us, either, but to be honest, Pitt needs him a whole lot more than we do. As has been noted, we've got a whole lot of talent in the defensive backfield.

And as for worrying about the depth chart and playing time, that is just stupid. If it were as much of a factor as you Pitt folks hope, then you'd see all kinds of 5 and 4 star players staying home and playing for their local mediocre program, and you do not. That is merely wishful thinking on your part. Whitehead was the exception to this, not the rule. Generally speaking, an empty depth chart and early PT means that the team sucks. Good players don't want to play for a team that sucks, and a quick study of the destination of the top 200 players will easily prove this to you.

In so far as Ford goes, nobody can predict. But given that these guys are a year apart, that kind of package deal is stupid, anyhow. I'd be willing to wager a fair amount of money that these two wind up at different schools eventually. And, neither of them will be at Pitt.

Can I see your crystal ball? It would save me a lot of time, that way I could just know right now where everyone is going.

It's weird because I know a lot of people at Central too and Coach Totten apparently is pro-Pitt, at least it now seems that way.

 

[bmw199]

"He's not going to Pitt." Funny, because over on our message boards everyone says "He's not going to PSU."

Hamlin's top 4 right now by all accounts are OSU, Pitt, PSU, and ND, probably in that order, and any of the schools have a realistic shot. I don't see him at ND because if he cares about depth chart and playing time, he'll stay home and go to Pitt. PSU and OSU are Pitt's competition for him. Hamlin and Ford are known to be a package deal, and Ford is on record saying he is not that high on PSU. That's a fact. That works in OSU and Pitt's favor. What's working against Pitt is the years of mediocrity Hamlin has seen first hand, and also the killer recruiting class PSU and OSU are putting together, not to mention OSU is probably the best school in the nation right now.

Hamlin visits Pitt more than any other school. That's a fact. "Well its cuz he goes to school in Oakland and he lives right there." Yeah, that has a good amount to do with it. But he likes the new staff a lot and seems to be getting a good vibe after each visit. "Well if he loves the staff so much, why hasn't he committed?" It's because Pitt hasn't shown Hamlin anything of note in his life. It's a "what have you done for me lately" situation. If Pitt can win 8-9 games this year and compete for the Coastal, I think he'll stay home. If not, PSU and OSU will be in a dead heat for his services.

As for Pitt's 2016 recruiting class, it's what you would a imagine a school's recruiting class would look like if they went 6-6 for four straight years. Narduzzi doesn't have much to sell right now because A. He hasn't won a game yet and B. Pitt has been mediocre for so long, so promises of ACC and national championships probably don't resonate much with recruits. Recruits nowadays have very short memories, so if Narduzzi can get Pitt to start winning, you'll see a few more highly rated players commit to Pitt, and maybe even some flips by signing day.

That's just my read on both situations. I try to be unbiased when I come over here on this board.

I don't know how often you lurk over here, but I love following recruiting and I have never seen Ford say anything about "not being high on PSU". Please provide proof. You're inital statement is correct in that he might not end up at PSU, but there is no way he ends up at Pitt. I have them in last of the four. His own father tweeted about how pathetic Heinz Field is on Pitt home Saturdays. It's just not happening I'm sorry man. Ford's half-brother played for ND and they are both visiting there next week and I think that is a real threat if they are truly committed to playing together. Honestly, I can't see Ford at OSU and I can't see either of them at Pitt so it's either PSU or ND if they are intent on playing together.

I really think Hamlin is much higher on PSU then people give him credit. He is friends with Sanders, and struck up a friendship with Hill and Zembiec (who said Hamlin was his number 1 recruiting target) at the Opening (BTW how many commits did Pitt have there?). Then there is this infamous photo that had everyone wondering if Hamlin was a silent verbal:

His response:

Didn't exactly say no.

 

[lionlurker]

Totten is a very fair-minded guy, period. Unlike some of the other WPIAL coaches, he is not going to sway a kid to any one school. Have you ever met him? He is a great guy.

However, he is not going to play any role in this decision, by and large.

 

[Split_T]

Only the most optimistic Pitt fan can be encouraged by Narduzzi's recruiting class. 8 commits , 1 4star, 4 low end 3stars, 2 2stars and the latest is unrated. A disaster; we recruited better than this when the scandal first broke . And they are offering 2star and unrated kids.

Can Hamlin really be considering Pitt ? Seriously?

The unrated kid has offers from Harvard, Yale and Cornell. If he were my son I'd sway him in the direction of the Ivy league. If he has hopes for the NFL, and is good enough, they'll find him. The Ivy league connections will afford him opportunities he would not receive from Pitt and members of most other power 5 conferences. Who knows, he may wind up being another John Urschel while attending Pitt. In any case I wish him luck.

 

[AJSH2P]

I don't know how often you lurk over here, but I love following recruiting and I have never seen Ford say anything about "not being high on PSU". Please provide proof. You're inital statement is correct in that he might not end up at PSU, but there is no way he ends up at Pitt. I have them in last of the four. His own father tweeted about how pathetic Heinz Field is on Pitt home Saturdays. It's just not happening I'm sorry man. Ford's half-brother played for ND and they are both visiting there next week and I think that is a real threat if they are truly committed to playing together. Honestly, I can't see Ford at OSU and I can't see either of them at Pitt so it's either PSU or ND if they are intent on playing together.

I really think Hamlin is much higher on PSU then people give him credit. He is friends with Sanders, and struck up a friendship with Hill and Zembiec (who said Hamlin was his number 1 recruiting target) at the Opening (BTW how many commits did Pitt have there?). Then there is this infamous photo that had everyone wondering if Hamlin was a silent verbal:

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Didn't exactly say no.

You don't think it's possible Hamlin and his dad could be using their position as leverage to get Pitt fans to games? I mean if that's their attempt it's not really going to work, winning will, but still it's possible.

Ford not being as high on PSU as other recruits was from an article on either 247 or Rivals a while back. I don't have the link.

And you guys saying "no way Ford and Hamlin end up at Pitt" are out of your mind. You don't think that there's even the slightest chance they play at Pitt? Come on. Pitt is in the top 3 for both and is a solid pick for a landing spot for both.