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I still cannot get over the loss to Notre Dame...

How did we blow that game, it was ours.
Yep, PSU blew it.

Had ND on their heels when Allen was bringing 6 after the ND QB in the 2nd half, but then on ND's last TD drive just rushed 4 and allowed the ND QB to run and pass and look like he had talent. I thought he was a pretty low talent QB but he made the plays with his legs and threw a couple good passes.

Cam Miller falls down and lets an ND WR walk in for the TD.

Allar wilts under the pressure and does the only thing he could have done to give the game away. Then the ND QB runs just enough for position for the FG

Couldn't have drawn it up any worse for the last minutes of the game........
 
Oh **** you. That was a major choke job and against about the worst team it could have come against. So what, it really doesn't really bother you?
You really do really bother me. So we’re even.
 
It was a GAME, one I wanted PSU to win against a team I hope goes 0-12 every season.
The result was disappointing, so I thought about it for maybe a half-hour after it ended. Can’t say I’ve thought much about it since.
I watch sports for entertainment. That was a game I really enjoyed. My life was not going to be changed by the outcome. I struggle to understand why anyone would allow it to bother them in any significant amount.
 
Yep, PSU blew it.

Had ND on their heels when Allen was bringing 6 after the ND QB in the 2nd half, but then on ND's last TD drive just rushed 4 and allowed the ND QB to run and pass and look like he had talent. I thought he was a pretty low talent QB but he made the plays with his legs and threw a couple good passes.

Cam Miller falls down and lets an ND WR walk in for the TD.

Allar wilts under the pressure and does the only thing he could have done to give the game away. Then the ND QB runs just enough for position for the FG

Couldn't have drawn it up any worse for the last minutes of the game........
A little bit reminiscent of that 2018 collapse vs OSU. Different series of screw ups but very similar story where you are in great position with about 8 minutes left and manage to do everything wrong the next 8 minutes to lose the game. In that game we were up 26-14 and lose 27-26 and this game up 24-17 and lose 27-24.

I actually hope OSU wins convincingly so they look like the best team far and away. It will take a little sting off this loss. Plus let's face it, ND has no business winning the NC. Ordinarily I would cheer for the underdog to beat OSU but since it is ND and all their arrogance I just can't do it.
 
A little bit reminiscent of that 2018 collapse vs OSU. Different series of screw ups but very similar story where you are in great position with about 8 minutes left and manage to do everything wrong the next 8 minutes to lose the game. In that game we were up 26-14 and lose 27-26 and this game up 24-17 and lose 27-24.

I actually hope OSU wins convincingly so they look like the best team far and away. It will take a little sting off this loss. Plus let's face it, ND has no business winning the NC. Ordinarily I would cheer for the underdog to beat OSU but since it is ND and all their arrogance I just can't do it.
As much as our offense left alot of points on the table, it's been our defense that's left us down in so many big games. The last time our D made a huge stop was the 2016 BIG championship game. We didn't stop ND twice in the final 5 minutes.
 
It really was a stinging loss for the simple reason that we are the clearly superior team. However, it’s sports. It can happen.
I believe that PSU was the slightly better team, but it certainly wasn’t by a lot. Regardless, PSU was physically dominating that team for the first two quarters and had a seven point lead late in the fourth quarter against a very banged up team and, of course, couldn’t seal the deal. OSU won’t let them off of the mat like PSU did, and I believe that they’re intent on destroying them if they get the chance just to prove a point.
 
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A little bit reminiscent of that 2018 collapse vs OSU. Different series of screw ups but very similar story where you are in great position with about 8 minutes left and manage to do everything wrong the next 8 minutes to lose the game. In that game we were up 26-14 and lose 27-26 and this game up 24-17 and lose 27-24.

I actually hope OSU wins convincingly so they look like the best team far and away. It will take a little sting off this loss. Plus let's face it, ND has no business winning the NC. Ordinarily I would cheer for the underdog to beat OSU but since it is ND and all their arrogance I just can't do it.
2017 at the Shoe was even worse. Barkley was running all over them, return TD, etc. We were up something like 28-10 in the 2nd quarter. With about 5 minutes left we had 1st down on their 7 YL. Our OC couldn't think of a different play to call in that situation, so we did the same old, same old, "3 RPO's" and didn't gain an inch. JF was happy with the FG, then Barrett marched them right down the field since our defense was gassed. Final score OSU 39 - PSU 38. That was a killer and a perfect example that you have to have plays in the book for specific situation during a game, not just "RPO's".

The same thing a year of so later when we were running and passing the ball down the throats of OSU at the Beav. Then, the OC sent Tommy Stevens into the field, while I was screaming "No." 5 million people watching the game knew the flat pass was coming. OSU had three defenders tackling Stevens for a 7 yard loss. Then, we attempt a FG which was blocked. Another unique way to loose to OSU!
 
2017 at the Shoe was even worse. Barkley was running all over them, return TD, etc. We were up something like 28-10 in the 2nd quarter. With about 5 minutes left we had 1st down on their 7 YL. Our OC couldn't think of a different play to call in that situation, so we did the same old, same old, "3 RPO's" and didn't gain an inch. JF was happy with the FG, then Barrett marched them right down the field since our defense was gassed. Final score OSU 39 - PSU 38. That was a killer and a perfect example that you have to have plays in the book for specific situation during a game, not just "RPO's".

The same thing a year of so later when we were running and passing the ball down the throats of OSU at the Beav. Then, the OC sent Tommy Stevens into the field, while I was screaming "No." 5 million people watching the game knew the flat pass was coming. OSU had three defenders tackling Stevens for a 7 yard loss. Then, we attempt a FG which was blocked. Another unique way to loose to OSU!
On the last drive McSorley through downfield completing a pass but forgetting he was a few yards past the line of scrimmage . On a play he could've easily gained the first down yardage. In a game where he ran well over a hundred yards.

Sanders also fumbled around the twenty giving osu a very short field. Players lost that game, not play calling.
 
As much as our offense left alot of points on the table, it's been our defense that's left us down in so many big games. The last time our D made a huge stop was the 2016 BIG championship game. We didn't stop ND twice in the final 5 minutes.
I agree. We did get the stop on their penultimate drive but then we know what happened....

Where our D really let us down was:

1) ND 2nd string QB torches us to regain momentum at end of first half
2) Come out completely flat to begin 2nd half and let ND drive down for TD.
3) We have them 2nd and 14 at their own 15 up 24-17 and let them wriggle out of it. Somehow giving up 11 yards on a little dump off pass. Then giving them a walk in 50+ yard TD pass.

We just do one thing right in these examples and we probably win the game.
 
I agree. We did get the stop on their penultimate drive but then we know what happened....

Where our D really let us down was:

1) ND 2nd string QB torches us to regain momentum at end of first half
2) Come out completely flat to begin 2nd half and let ND drive down for TD.
3) We have them 2nd and 14 at their own 15 up 24-17 and let them wriggle out of it. Somehow giving up 11 yards on a little dump off pass. Then giving them a walk in 50+ yard TD pass.

We just do one thing right in these examples and we probably win the game.
I can almost guarantee that OSU will not make those same mistakes against that team. Let’s face it, OSU would’ve beaten that same banged up team that we played probably by 20 to 24 points.
 
Where our D really let us down was:

1) ND 2nd string QB torches us to regain momentum at end of first half
This is something we need to stop exaggerating on. Angeli simply took what most teams get at the end of a half. Simple check downs for minimal yards--let's not forget he fumbled and we didn't recover it.
We're acting like the kid was throwing dimes and stretching the field. He simply checked down--over and over again--they only got 3 points on that drive.
 
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I believe that PSU was the slightly better team, but it certainly wasn’t by a lot. Regardless, PSU was physically dominating that team for the first two quarters and had a seven point lead late in the fourth quarter against a very banged up team and, of course, couldn’t seal the deal. OSU won’t let them off of the mat like PSU did, and I believe that they’re intent on destroying them if they get the chance just to prove a point.
Respectfully disagree. It’s by a lot. Our O Line made them look like a high school team much of the game. Our D Line was beating up their O Line. Our RBs are better. Our TEs our better. Our punter is better. Kickers were maybe a push. Our QB had an off night, we had a guy slip and fall to give up a long TD, and their coaches were better in the second half. We still had an excellent season, but the loss definitely hurts.
 
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Respectfully disagree. It’s by a lot. Our O Line made them look like a high school team much of the game. Our D Line was beating up their O Line. Our RBs are better. Our TEs our better. Our punter is better. Kickers were maybe a push. Our QB had an off night, we had a guy slip and fall to give up a long TD, and their coaches were better in the second half. We still had an excellent season, but the loss definitely hurts.
I agree that it was a very tough loss to accept because PSU was the better team for three out of the four quarters. However, PSU really never was able to get the required distance from that team when it had all of the momentum. Then, we were outplayed for the whole third quarter, which basically negated what we did in the first half and gave a team life that was about ready to collapse at the end of the first half.
 
I understand that shyt happens but why does it happen so often to PSU?
Look at this way. We did win two playoff games, including the Fiesta Bowl. And we also had several comeback wins on the road against USC, Wisconsin and Minnesota. So overall, it was a widely successful season in which a lot of things did go our way. The problem is that when you have the plodding offense that we had and an erratic qb, good teams always are going to be able to stay within reach of you and have a chance to capitalize on mistakes, which is what happened.

By the way, my sister is a big Pitt fan who believes that PSU has a horseshoe up its ass and always has good things going its way.
 
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I agree that it was a very tough loss to accept because PSU was the better team for three out of the four quarters. However, PSU really never was able to get the required distance from that team when it had all of the momentum. Then, we were outplayed for the whole third quarter, which basically negated what we did in the first half and gave a team life that was about ready to collapse at the end of the first half.
We lost that game because our QB can't come through in the big moments! Enough said!
 
Look at this way. We did win two playoff games, including the Fiesta Bowl. And we also had several comeback wins on the road against USC, Wisconsin and Minnesota. So overall, it was a widely successful season in which a lot of things did go our way. The problem is that when you have the plodding offense that we had and an erratic qb, good teams always are going to be able to stay within reach of you and have a chance to capitalize on mistakes, which is what happened.

By the way, my sister is a big Pitt fan who believes that PSU has a horseshoe up its ass and always has good things going its way.
Guess she found out she's wrong.
 
I can almost guarantee that OSU will not make those same mistakes against that team. Let’s face it, OSU would’ve beaten that same banged up team that we played probably by 20 to 24 points.
We will see on Monday but I tend to agree. The only way ND has a chance is if OSU plays down to them (turnovers, terrible game by Howard, special teams big plays for ND). ND should have a very difficult time moving the ball. On defense I do think the ND secondary can somewhat slow down the OSU pass attack but OSU also has a great run game so I don't see ND having that much success holding OSU down. It is apparent to me that there is OSU at one level then the next best which are ND, PSU, Texas, Georgia all at a lower level. We should see that play out on Monday.
 
2017 at the Shoe was even worse. Barkley was running all over them, return TD, etc. We were up something like 28-10 in the 2nd quarter. With about 5 minutes left we had 1st down on their 7 YL. Our OC couldn't think of a different play to call in that situation, so we did the same old, same old, "3 RPO's" and didn't gain an inch. JF was happy with the FG, then Barrett marched them right down the field since our defense was gassed. Final score OSU 39 - PSU 38. That was a killer and a perfect example that you have to have plays in the book for specific situation during a game, not just "RPO's".

The same thing a year of so later when we were running and passing the ball down the throats of OSU at the Beav. Then, the OC sent Tommy Stevens into the field, while I was screaming "No." 5 million people watching the game knew the flat pass was coming. OSU had three defenders tackling Stevens for a 7 yard loss. Then, we attempt a FG which was blocked. Another unique way to loose to OSU!
Was that the '18 game with the Stevens thing? I don't remember that.
 
I understand that shyt happens but why does it happen so often to PSU?
Because we are incapable of making clutch plays in winning time against these good teams. When I say good teams I don't mean Minnesota and Iowa or SMU and Boise State. I mean OSU, Michigan, ND. Teams that have equal talent or even more.

I started a thread on this because I saw Jack Sawyer create a strip sack then rumble for a TD to turn what could be a tie game with two minutes left to a 14 point lead for OSU. It got me thinking, do we ever make a play like that at that juncture of a huge game? Winning time. The answer is no, except the blocked FG which feels like forever ago.

I think it is a mental fortitude kind of thing. For whatever reason we are not built for the biggest moments.
 
I was telling a guy at work yesterday that the last time a loss bothered me this much was 2018 against O$U. We have a lot of very good players coming back next year, but it’s just not that easy to get to the “final four.” We needed hard fought, come from behind wins at USC AND Minnesota. A loss in either could have kept us out of the playoff. Let’s be honest, we also had the easiest path to the semifinals. The ND game was very winnable, and we let it slip through our fingers.
 
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