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I thought PA was supposed to be good at wrestling

Jammies is a fun guy who you want to have on the board. Don't worry about WHAT he posts, it's WHY he posts it is what really matters. He's probably thinking something similar to Catbert, the Evil HR Director in Dilbert.

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Spencer Lee... ? knee loss or not, how the hell wasnt he #1 ?
Without the injury I would've chosen Lee, but either way Fix was a more than reasonable choice.

Fix beat Lee at Cadet world trials 2 matches to 0, and won 3 world medals before enrolling.

Plus Fix didn't have the injury risk -- remember that Lee missed 1/3 of his SR year and was planning to have knee surgery.
 
Without the injury I would've chosen Lee, but either way Fix was a more than reasonable choice.

Fix beat Lee at Cadet world trials 2 matches to 0, and won 3 world medals before enrolling.

Plus Fix didn't have the injury risk -- remember that Lee missed 1/3 of his SR year and was planning to have knee surgery.
Agreed on the injury uncertainty.


In hindsight,head to head loss was a headscratcher even though Spencer was wrestling up.
Fix went to worlds that year and didnt medal.
Spencer bumped to JUNIORS, won WTT at his NATURAL weight, then went unscored upon at Worlds.

You cant use pre recruitment international accolades, it will never favor Fix.
 
2 Things:

1. Jammen is intelligent and engaging. It's obnoxious 90% of the time, but it's almost brilliant to see the mental gymnastics he contorts to to speak ill upon PSU Wrestling. He knows what he's doing. He's our board's Sasha Baron Cohen. Additionally, wayyyyy back when I posted on The G, he was every bit helpful and intelligent that he was troll-y. Just gotta keep up appearances.



2. Interesting that the last real "busts" were Gardner and Craig in '06 and '07. With all of the knowledge, film, 72,000 "National Tournaments", it's definitely easier to pinpoint top recruits and discover whether or not they fit their program. If I remember properly, Craig was a Brandon guy, right? Have they fallen on HARD times? They came up to the Clash and throttled us the year that they had like 8 Fargo AA's and multiple D1/D2 recruits. Now you barely hear "boo" about them.
If I remember correctly Gardner's college career was a tragedy due to and finally succumbing to drugs. Prior to that he was undefeated and #1 in the country his junior & senior years in HS. Really a sad story.
 
Counter to a provocative posts --

Pennsylvania, for 8 years of the last 10 (there are 2 years I did not compile), has had 428 total NCAA qualifiers, or 16% of the field. In those eight years, PA wrestlers took home 95, or 15% of the All-American honors.

There are other good wrestling states, Pennsylvania is certainly in the discussion for best state, for anyone that cares about such things.
 
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Top 10's Since 2013
PA - 20 (Counting Aragona for PA (not NJ)) (Not counting Reenan/Bartlett/Manville) (+ 2 #11)

That's 20 of 80 possible, dumdum. a full 25%

OH - 7
MN - 7 (+ 2 #11s) (I counted Hall, and both Stevesons just so Jammies wouldn't pee his jammies even though none of them are FROM MN)

CA - 5

IL - 4 (+1 #11)
OK - 4
NY - 4 (3 in one year)

NJ - 3 (+1 #11)
MI - 3 (Could claim Hall)
IN - 3 (Could claim both Stevesons)


To Note -
Blair Academy: 4 Black (PA), Kolodzik (OH), Singletary (FL), Ramirez (FL), + #11-Milonas (NJ)

Seminary - Reenan (TX), Manville (VA), Bartlett (AZ) + #11-Lachlan (Canuck)

St. Eds - None
3 from #12-#20 all in the same year

Graham - 3 - Jordans (OH), Marinelli (OH)

Apple Valley - 2.5 - Hall, Gable, Manville kinda, + #11 R. Steveson
 
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Willie, the article is about #1's, not top 10's. Were you also doing the rankings when you were at TOM?
 
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