Once this is done I would change my name and move far away from Pennsylvania.
If I was Curley or Shultz
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Or they can stay in their community, having paid for their crimes, and assist in the very long healing process still underway. Their pleading guilty does not prove malice, and could suggest what many here have felt all along - that mistakes were made. There is still no evidence of conspiracy, and we still don't know what is/was in their heart of hearts.
Ask elvis63 how changing names has worked out for him.
That was part of the deal.
Curley and Schultz, in lengthy colloquies with current case prosecutors Laura Ditka and Patrick Schulte, acknowledged receiving McQueary's report and interfering with or preventing its transmission to police and child welfare officials.
They conceded a legal duty to do that and as a result of that inaction, the men admitted, prosecutors could show Sandusky continued to have access to boys and, in fact, abused another boy in Penn State's football facilities before his eventual arrest in 2011.
Chew on this. They admitted they covered it up . Deal with it.
Now go find what your imaginary buddy posted and see what he said , because these fellows admitted to a cover up.
Curley and Schultz, in lengthy colloquies with current case prosecutors Laura Ditka and Patrick Schulte, acknowledged receiving McQueary's report and interfering with or preventing its transmission to police and child welfare officials.
They conceded a legal duty to do that and as a result of that inaction, the men admitted, prosecutors could show Sandusky continued to have access to boys and, in fact, abused another boy in Penn State's football facilities before his eventual arrest in 2011.
Chew on this. They admitted they covered it up . Deal with it.
Now go find what your imaginary buddy posted and see what he said , because these fellows admitted to a cover up.
And how will they square their "horsing around" narrative, with any testimony they provide in GS' trial? Recall at least Curley said that MM told them JS and the teen were horsing around, nothing sexual in nature. Did Curley ever give his "Horsing around" comment in sworn testimony in a deposition or in a court hearing or proceding ( like in the MM civil trial)? Even if not, if he told that story to police, he can be impeached on the stand if he testifies in the GS trial, for making false statements to the police. So not sure how much healing will take place in the community, if GS does not take a plea deal and C/S testify against him and are contradicting their longstanding narrative . Apologize in advance if this slant on the story has been hashed about already. Been on the road, and have not had time to read the 896 responses on the main thread.
I expect they'll have immunity from perjury & as a condition of the plea, will have explained their full story to the prosecution. As long as they stick to that, the prosecution will recommend that they get no jail time.
What report did MM give Curley/Schultz? The same report he gave his dad and Dr. Dranov? OK.....
If Curley or Schultz get up on the stand and say that MM told them it was sexual in nature (and not horseplay) and then Spaneir instructed them to bury it, I see the chance of that happening as about zero. Basically means C/S knowingly let a child molester on the loose for what reason. C/S, if they testify, will say the same thing they have said all along, that MM was vague and never said anything of a sexual nature occurred.
Why would they protect Sandusky? I don't buy that they were protecting the football program. If a cover up, why a cover up?
That was part of the deal.
Curley and Schultz, in lengthy colloquies with current case prosecutors Laura Ditka and Patrick Schulte, acknowledged receiving McQueary's report and interfering with or preventing its transmission to police and child welfare officials.
They conceded a legal duty to do that and as a result of that inaction, the men admitted, prosecutors could show Sandusky continued to have access to boys and, in fact, abused another boy in Penn State's football facilities before his eventual arrest in 2011.
See this? Penn live article today .
They will clarify it in testimony. But can't you people read ? Curley and Schultz admit to covering it up. They acknowledged receibvi
That was part of the deal.
Curley and Schultz, in lengthy colloquies with current case prosecutors Laura Ditka and Patrick Schulte, acknowledged receiving McQueary's report and interfering with or preventing its transmission to police and child welfare officials.
They conceded a legal duty to do that and as a result of that inaction, the men admitted, prosecutors could show Sandusky continued to have access to boys and, in fact, abused another boy in Penn State's football facilities before his eventual arrest in 2011.
See this? Penn live article today .
Learn to read. They have sworn statements from these guys acknowledging they got a report from mike and deliberately did not report it.
The prosecution is not recommending any leniency, I think that's in the article . It's all on the judge to decide I believe.
Yes.
And who is the OGBoT and OAG covering up for? I'd really like an answer to that question.
Put this whole debacle through a strainer and it's about money, corrupt money, not JS or Joe or the football program or CS or Spanier.
It is definitely not about justice.
Since you're done here why don't you scoot over to DC and get those thugs tossed into jail. Start at the top.
Then what're you gonna do? Find Gricar's murderer? Start a reality show? 'Elvis Was Here'. Go spend five years in Lansing. Let us know how it's going from time to time.
Cletus, if what you say is true, why would the State make a deal with Curley and Schultz? It is a deal, if they testify truthfully the State will recommend to the judge a very light sentence. If they keep up with the Mike was not clear story, well the State will recommend to the judge they get 5 years in prison. Curley has lung cancer, do you think he wants to take a chance spending the last year's of his life in prison? He is doing ok at this time, however look up the stats on lung cancer and longevity.
Everybody has the same questions, much bigger story, no doubt. However that does not change the fact that Curley and Schultz plead guilty and their actions contributed to JS abusing more kids.
Not sure I agree with the last part. They may have chosen the sensible, practical path, not the true one. It'd be nice if someone WOULD JUST TELL THE TRUTH FOR ONCE.
The pleadings only reinforce what we've known for years...like dozens of others they trusted Jerry wasn't abusing children. Sadly, everyone was wrong.
Not fact...pure speculation that their actions contributed to more abuse of children. We have no idea what would have happened had they brought in police. And given 98, who knows...
Having immunity from perjury prosecution doesn't mean that they would be believable witnesses.
Cross examination: "So you lied about this last time you testified?"
C/S: Yes.
Cross examination: But we are supposed to believe you now?
C/S: Yes.
Cross examination: Did you accept a plea bargain in exchange for this testimony?
C/S: Yes.
Cross examination: No further questions.
That's NOT what they admitted. They pled guilt to EWOC. That's it.
It certainly doesn't make them believable....but what about the emails and notes that the state will provide to basically back up their claims? I have no doubt that will be the card the defense plays as it's typical, but the emails and notes in conjunction with their testimony will probably be a bit more credible than just their words alone. I have a feeling these two will go from victims afraid of a fair trial to a-holes that threw PSU under the bus to save themselves really quickly. Mistakes were made all over. State Agencies, judicial system, TSM, and even some at PSU. I know it's common drum beat to ask why not everyone else and it's a legit question, but at some point is anyone going to raise an eyebrow and say....hmmm, maybe these 3 really did botch this thing up in a bad way. I didn't want to believe it, but it's looking like more and more that I was off base there.
I thought the same about Mike M. for the last 5 years.
