If you thought THREE MILE ISLAND was bad... HR is in utter meltdown

[amalone]

It's ugly... and boy... does it suck to be a Hawk fan. Expectations so high from a complete passive wrestler and a squad of them. Got what he deserved. THE LIGHTS. And the hope of Hawk fans everywhere... dimmed. So sad.

This post was edited on 3/20 8:39 PM by amalone

 

[Azchief32]

Now the old Amalone rears his head.

 

[jerot]

Child

 

[manmythlegend1]

Originally posted by Azchief32:
Now the old Amalone rears his head.

This is a Penn State Board, If you can't handle a little harmless ribbing (Mild at that) on a main rivals board, then that says a lot more about you than Amalone.

 

[amalone]

It's ugly when pushing and passivity become your hallmark. Live with it. And the quality of wrestling that beats Iowa year in and year out. The program lacks for any creative adjustments to the evolution in collegiate wrestling. Chief, I told you the style was outdated on more occasions than I can count?? Why cry now???

Thomas Gilman clearly didn't come to wrestle and he got... decked. That's what should have happened and to a National viewing audience.... that happened. The rampant stalling you talked about is NOT on display with the younger generation of kids who are bringing it at Nationals. It's Iowa that hasn't gotten the memo... for years. Let it stretch on.

 

[amalone]

Read the equivalent sentiments on your own site. Realization hopefully comes somewhere after denial.

HR LINK

 

[farmer79]

I enjoy Iowa losing just about as much as anything !!!

 

[lionlover]

Originally posted by amalone:
It's ugly... and boy... does it suck to be a Hawk fan. Expectations so high from a complete passive wrestler and a squad of them. Got what he deserved. THE LIGHTS. And the hope of Hawk fans everywhere... dimmed. So sad.

This post was edited on 3/20 8:39 PM by amalone

3 Mile island metaphor? Priceless!

 

[Nitfan]

Add to that the Minnywhowho failure, and all their t shirts! ***********

,,

 

[Flying_Tiger]

Minnesota did so bad you almost feel sorry for them…….. almost

 

[WildTurk]

"Utter meltdown" ??!! Really? I don't think so. There will always be negative comments after nationals, whether you win or lose, especially on a board as active as Iowa's. Don't try and turn it into that B.S. Amalone.

 

[Cowbell Man]

From the HR board:

"Evans, for example, couldn't have wrestled for Gable. Stalling was not accepted as a means of trying to win."

 

[amalone]

Originally posted by WildTurk:
"Utter meltdown" ??!! Really? I don't think so. There will always be negative comments after nationals, whether you win or lose, especially on a board as active as Iowa's. Don't try and turn it into that B.S. Amalone.

Go join the evident meltdown that has occurred every year for the past 5 years. Your "BRAND" of wrestling
bores the beJesus out of us... and until Iowa's coaches recruit an Isiah Martinez or realize their pushing, shoving,
let's get into a scrap wrestling doesn't remotely work anymore... than you'll have meltdowns year after year until
Brands goes. Talented upstarts without much prior National acclaim, Cody Brewer and Zeke Moisey went after
Iowa opponents... your best wrestlers and you saw the outcomes. Passivity doesn't pay.

Bobby Telford, Nick Moore, Mike Evans who rarely shows any offensive flair... didn't come with much offensive
altogether. It's extremely boring, it's not wrestling and it doesn't do anything to advance the sport.

Iowa wrestling is a relic of the past... which has never evolved as time goes on... as wrestling has evolved
into a technical wrestlers sport. Guys like David Taylor, Ed Ruth, Isiah Martinez, Gwiz just picking people
apart. It's just not the Iowa way maybe minus a Tony Ramos... the past few years.

Next year... ask yourself... do you see any change in your coaches philosophy? And Penn State goes back
to it's dominant ways with a fully stocked team with all of it's offensive talent back on the mat.

Iowa continues to lose at Nationals and the rest of the wrestling world outside of Iowa fans... rejoice. I think Iowa
had it's best opportunity this year with five seniors. No one won a title and Cory Clark was your best performer in
what wasn't one of the strongest weigh classes at Nationals this year. I just don't see a change in getting offensive
scorers and athletic talent at Iowa. The rest of the country seems primed and ready to bring on that type of kid
so Iowa... keep doing it your way. And the fans... like you... go WILD.

 

[Jaybird319]

This time of year we get the football junkies jumping into wrestling board for a few days. Sky is falling and we should clear everything that is hawkeye wrestling lol. Lots of things went wrong and right to b where we are, plain and simple. Some wrestled above seeds and others didn't. I'll take 6 all Americans every yr without a question for a program that is dying

 

[WildTurk]

Amalone I'm not even going to read what you just wrote. All I'm saying is that it is not a "Utter meltdown at Hawkeyereport" Far from it.

 

[amalone]

Originally posted by Jaybird319:
This time of year we get the football junkies jumping into wrestling board for a few days. Sky is falling and we should clear everything that is hawkeye wrestling lol. Lots of things went wrong and right to b where we are, plain and simple. Some wrestled above seeds and others didn't. I'll take 6 all Americans every yr without a question for a program that is dying

Tell that to the Iowa dire hards where it's title or nothing.

Matter of fact, Jaybird319, go post that on Hawkeye
Report as a separate post and see what kind of response you get. Please. You most likely won't have any feathers
left when they're done with you.

 

[amalone]

Originally posted by WildTurk:
Amalone I'm not even going to read what you just wrote. All I'm saying is that it is not a "Utter meltdown at Hawkeyereport" Far from it.

Iowa wrestling needs to change. I want it, YOU want it... Tom Brands wants different results at Nationals. I know
Iowa fans are growing restless hearing the same rhetoric out of Tom Brands mouth after key members of the
Hawks under perform at Nationals.

It's great for the sport if Iowa changes it's approach. Then Iowa evolves like the Penn State's, Ohio States and
we have something to talk about. Until Tom Brands picks up a Isiah Martinez type recruit or anyone with that
offensive arsenal that we haven't seen since Tony Ramos... we have little to talk about related to Iowa other than
disappointment.

 

[Jaybird319]

It's the old doom and gloom for the Hawks anytime we don't win from you. The national duals big tens nationals. Laughable your posts are

 

[WildTurk]

Anytime I see Amalone post I just laugh and shake my head. That guy is crazy

 

[amalone]

Originally posted by Jaybird319:
It's the old doom and gloom for the Hawks anytime we don't win from you. The national duals big tens nationals. Laughable your posts are

Oh... you missed the mark. The past five years actually. Take it as you want. Other teams will keep winning
Championships and I guess you'll keep on staying oblivious to that as a Hawk fan??

 

[amalone]

Originally posted by WildTurk:
Anytime I see Amalone post I just laugh and shake my head. That guy is crazy

You should do likewise when evaluating the talent/results gap at Iowa and other schools . That's when I shake my
head the most. You too?? I hope so.

The thing I shake my head most at is the unrealistic expectations Hawkeye fans have going into a National Tourney
and get the same, similar or diminished results. Isn't that the definition of insanity? Iowa Wrestling: Doing the same
thing, over and over again (uninspired, defensive wrestling) and expecting different results.

Go over to HR... and the insanity reigns rampant. And WildTurk... I know you"ll know it when you see it.

Hope I represented you properly. My fear is.. that I didn't.

This post was edited on 3/22 12:01 PM by amalone

 

[clhawks00]

HR is definitely a mess right now. It has been the same way after nationals for about five years now. Crazies come out of the woodwork and start bashing everyone and everything. I understand rivals want to get their shots in at Iowa, especially when they don't win. Most fans are used to it by now. As for the actual state of Iowa wrestling, we lose 3 contributors. Evans, Telford and Dziewa will be missed. It was unfortunate for Dziewa that he walked into a buzz saw against Jack from NC St in the first round. Very tough matchup for a 5 seed. Telford made one mistake trying to hold on too long and had some questionable back points scored against him. He bounced back and picked up a bunch of bonus points on the back side. Evans was Evans. His results weren't much better than out backup likely would have done but he was an eyelash away from the finals.

 

[amalone]

Originally posted by clhawks00:
HR is definitely a mess right now. It has been the same way after nationals for about five years now. Crazies come out of the woodwork and start bashing everyone and everything. I understand rivals want to get their shots in at Iowa, especially when they don't win. Most fans are used to it by now. As for the actual state of Iowa wrestling, we lose 3 contributors. Evans, Telford and Dziewa will be missed. It was unfortunate for Dziewa that he walked into a buzz saw against Jack from NC St in the first round. Very tough matchup for a 5 seed. Telford made one mistake trying to hold on too long and had some questionable back points scored against him. He bounced back and picked up a bunch of bonus points on the back side. Evans was Evans. His results weren't much better than out backup likely would have done but he was an eyelash away from the finals.

Very fair response. Iowa also has to replace Nick Moore whether people feel he contributed or not. Mike Kelly
also has to be replaced by someone who can get the job done. I don't see anyone and maybe I'm wrong to replace
those graduating senior to the level these guys were wrestling at now that their careers are over.

Those contributors and the other weight classes with graduating seniors... still need a top end replacement or the
cycle of discontentment will continue.

 

[lionlover]

Originally posted by amalone:

Originally posted by Jaybird319:
It's the old doom and gloom for the Hawks anytime we don't win from you. The national duals big tens nationals. Laughable your posts are

Oh... you missed the mark. The past five years actually. Take it as you want. Other teams will keep winning
Championships and I guess you'll keep on staying oblivious to that as a Hawk fan??

HALF A DECADE....and they still are in denial. In the next few years it's all PSU and OSU. I wonder if they will still recant the same thing after a FULL DECADE?

 

[ArturoFuente]

Wow, Amalone. 4 in a row for you guys and all you got is a hard on for IOWA. We absolutely shit the bed and still got 2nd. I would never expect you to believe this but it is FANTASTIC to be an IOWA fan.

 

[lionlover]

Originally posted by ArturoFuente:
Wow, Amalone. 4 in a row for you guys and all you got is a hard on for IOWA. We absolutely shit the bed and still got 2nd. I would never expect you to believe this but it is FANTASTIC to be an IOWA fan.

Atru- This is the difference between the growth and expectations between the two programs...NOW. At PSU we don't feel FANTASTIC when we shit the bed.

 

[amalone]

Originally posted by lionlover:

Originally posted by amalone:

Originally posted by Jaybird319:
It's the old doom and gloom for the Hawks anytime we don't win from you. The national duals big tens nationals. Laughable your posts are

Oh... you missed the mark. The past five years actually. Take it as you want. Other teams will keep winning
Championships and I guess you'll keep on staying oblivious to that as a Hawk fan??

HALF A DECADE....and they still are in denial. In the next few years it's all PSU and OSU. I wonder if they will still recant the same thing after a FULL DECADE?

LL... It's going to be a FULL DECADE or more and they still won't get it. Penn State has recruited lights out since
the departure of Ed Ruth and David Taylor and in that time.... Iowa has had their senior class win 0 individual
National Championships and 0 Team National Championships while Ed Ruth and DT had five between them
and four straight team titles. You would have thought that will such success, Iowa would recruit studs to match
that kind of domination. Hell, NO. With a senior laden squad and their best chance to win it all... they're almost
20 pts behind Ohio St. The past few years the separation from Penn State and Iowa was the same at Nationals
yet the true blow hards from Iowa come over here and try to rally the call in the name of complacency.

They all should hand in their Dan Gable idol cards because Dan Gable would have called bunk on this less than
stellar Iowa run and put Iowa in shape to at least make it a good showing. Ohio State ran away with the title and
it was locked up before the finals... where Iowa's lone representative got taken down at will by a 13th seeded
wrestler who should have made Cory Clark rethink the Iowa way. Just not getting it done. But they're okay with
that... the one's coming on here and saying... everything is okay. And pretty soon we'll hear Iowa predictions
to be National Champs next year with NO plausible way for that to happen.

But then again, if delusion is the other side of rational thought. We'll plan for a NC next year and let them delude
themselves to one. It's been going on for five years now... five more is coming... and we'll ask them at the end
of that time. What is the definition of insanity again?? Doing the same things over and over again and expecting
different results. Next to that in a digital Websters should be a picture of a Hawkeye wrestling fan raising the
#1 sign. Would bring down the house in Penn State land. Might break a rib laughing.

I'll take take that decade and raise you more years as long as Cael keeps on recruiting like he has. If he reels in
Spencer Lee. It's lights out for IOWA for a very long time. Success breeds even more success. Pennsylvania
hasn't lacked for it... on a high school level and Cael will go on another stretch of NC wins. Take it to a bank...
just NOT one in IOWA.

 

[amalone]

Originally posted by ArturoFuente:
Wow, Amalone. 4 in a row for you guys and all you got is a hard on for IOWA. We absolutely shit the bed and still got 2nd. I would never expect you to believe this but it is FANTASTIC to be an IOWA fan.

You embarrass yourself. Your words: Your team shit the bed. NO TEAM who supposedly shits the bed should
win any title. It just so happens, that many supposed good teams on paper like Minnesota and Mizzouri, shit
the bed in a bigger way,.... and by default you took 2nd... only almost 20 pts away from the winner. Only
four more All American's away or the rest of the team if it didn't consist of several IOWA seniors getting housed once
again or shitting the bed as you stated.

You should be so proud of your team for shitting the bed... and forgetting to wet it also. Yellow showers anyone?
Your team color is "Yellow", isn't it?

 

[lionlover]

Originally posted by amalone:

Originally posted by lionlover:

Originally posted by amalone:

Originally posted by Jaybird319:
It's the old doom and gloom for the Hawks anytime we don't win from you. The national duals big tens nationals. Laughable your posts are

Oh... you missed the mark. The past five years actually. Take it as you want. Other teams will keep winning
Championships and I guess you'll keep on staying oblivious to that as a Hawk fan??

HALF A DECADE....and they still are in denial. In the next few years it's all PSU and OSU. I wonder if they will still recant the same thing after a FULL DECADE?

LL... It's going to be a FULL DECADE or more and they still won't get it. Penn State has recruited lights out since
the departure of Ed Ruth and David Taylor and in that time.... Iowa has had their senior class win 0 individual
National Championships and 0 Team National Championships while Ed Ruth and DT had five between them
and four straight team titles. You would have thought that will such success, Iowa would recruit studs to match
that kind of domination. Hell, NO. With a senior laden squad and their best chance to win it all... they're almost
20 pts behind Ohio St. The past few years the separation from Penn State and Iowa was the same at Nationals
yet the true blow hards from Iowa come over here and try to rally the call in the name of complacency.

They all should hand in their Dan Gable idol cards because Dan Gable would have called bunk on this less than
stellar Iowa run and put Iowa in shape to at least make it a good showing. Ohio State ran away with the title and
it was locked up before the finals... where Iowa's lone representative got taken down at will by a 13th seeded
wrestler who should have made Cory Clark rethink the Iowa way. Just not getting it done. But they're okay with
that... the one's coming on here and saying... everything is okay. And pretty soon we'll hear Iowa predictions
to be National Champs next year with NO plausible way for that to happen.

But then again, if delusion is the other side of rational thought. We'll plan for a NC next year and let them delude
themselves to one. It's been going on for five years now... five more is coming... and we'll ask them at the end
of that time. What is the definition of insanity again?? Doing the same things over and over again and expecting
different results. Next to that in a digital Websters should be a picture of a Hawkeye wrestling fan raising the
#1 sign. Would bring down the house in Penn State land. Might break a rib laughing.

I'll take take that decade and raise you more years as long as Cael keeps on recruiting like he has. If he reels in
Spencer Lee. It's lights out for IOWA for a very long time. Success breeds even more success. Pennsylvania
hasn't lacked for it... on a high school level and Cael will go on another stretch of NC wins. Take it to a bank...
just NOT one in IOWA.

Yep. What I find particularly entertaining is how Iowa says "Ryan can recruit, but he can't coach." You don't by any stretch of memory remember any of the Iowa fans coming on to this board saying the exact same thing about Cael Sanderson, do you? They continue to delude themselves. Iowa is no longer the Mecca of wrestling. The tope end talent is going to PSU and OSU. It's that simple.

 

[amalone]

Originally posted by lionlover:

Originally posted by amalone:

Originally posted by lionlover:

Originally posted by amalone:

Originally posted by Jaybird319:
It's the old doom and gloom for the Hawks anytime we don't win from you. The national duals big tens nationals. Laughable your posts are

Oh... you missed the mark. The past five years actually. Take it as you want. Other teams will keep winning
Championships and I guess you'll keep on staying oblivious to that as a Hawk fan??

HALF A DECADE....and they still are in denial. In the next few years it's all PSU and OSU. I wonder if they will still recant the same thing after a FULL DECADE?

LL... It's going to be a FULL DECADE or more and they still won't get it. Penn State has recruited lights out since
the departure of Ed Ruth and David Taylor and in that time.... Iowa has had their senior class win 0 individual
National Championships and 0 Team National Championships while Ed Ruth and DT had five between them
and four straight team titles. You would have thought that will such success, Iowa would recruit studs to match
that kind of domination. Hell, NO. With a senior laden squad and their best chance to win it all... they're almost
20 pts behind Ohio St. The past few years the separation from Penn State and Iowa was the same at Nationals
yet the true blow hards from Iowa come over here and try to rally the call in the name of complacency.

They all should hand in their Dan Gable idol cards because Dan Gable would have called bunk on this less than
stellar Iowa run and put Iowa in shape to at least make it a good showing. Ohio State ran away with the title and
it was locked up before the finals... where Iowa's lone representative got taken down at will by a 13th seeded
wrestler who should have made Cory Clark rethink the Iowa way. Just not getting it done. But they're okay with
that... the one's coming on here and saying... everything is okay. And pretty soon we'll hear Iowa predictions
to be National Champs next year with NO plausible way for that to happen.

But then again, if delusion is the other side of rational thought. We'll plan for a NC next year and let them delude
themselves to one. It's been going on for five years now... five more is coming... and we'll ask them at the end
of that time. What is the definition of insanity again?? Doing the same things over and over again and expecting
different results. Next to that in a digital Websters should be a picture of a Hawkeye wrestling fan raising the
#1 sign. Would bring down the house in Penn State land. Might break a rib laughing.

I'll take take that decade and raise you more years as long as Cael keeps on recruiting like he has. If he reels in
Spencer Lee. It's lights out for IOWA for a very long time. Success breeds even more success. Pennsylvania
hasn't lacked for it... on a high school level and Cael will go on another stretch of NC wins. Take it to a bank...
just NOT one in IOWA.

Yep. What I find particularly entertaining is how Iowa says "Ryan can recruit, but he can't coach." You don't by any stretch of memory remember any of the Iowa fans coming on to this board saying the exact same thing about Cael Sanderson, do you? They continue to delude themselves. Iowa is no longer the Mecca of wrestling. The tope end talent is going to PSU and OSU. It's that simple.

Offensive minded elite talent wouldn't and has not wanted to go to Iowa. Iowa fans always post that they're in
the running for top recruits like Zain Retherford when he won a World Cadet Title. Then Zain comes out and says
that it was Penn State and he really never considered any other school. It's laughable.

The program, it's fans, the lack of offensive talent, the complaining from their fans about the lack of offensive
scorers like Mike Kelly, Nick Moore, Mike Evans and Bobby Telford and the lack of a plan to retool the program.
As you've noted... Penn State and Ohio State are clobbering Iowa in recruiting top notch, elite college ready kids
after a RS year. Nico and Zain wrestled as true freshman and all NICO did was reach the NCAA finals and Zain
took 5th in a loaded weight class at 141 last year.

Let the speculation begin in how dominant the LIONS can be next year. It's going to be a spectacle similar to
watching DT and Ed wrestle. Just new names and some familiar ones to carry the Championship banner.

 

[minnhawkeye]

Glad to see u back in top shape amalone this board needs someone to keep it more active.
I know that Pa. has many many outstanding high school wrestlers which are studs and which Cal is going to get the best ones.
What I cannot understand is why it took Penn State so long like decades to finally wake up and realize that we need a coach that can get these kids?

Also for dam sure I realize that the Hawks have to start giving some full scholarships to get the best studs they can. .

Now with parity the way it is Penn State, Ohio State, Okie State Illinois even going to get better recurits just going to make better wrestling and more excitement hopefully give us some new fans.

I also know that Iowa is behind this at this time most likely in 2017 Metcalf will be added to coaching staff win or lose in the olympics if he makes the team. In April he will be going up against Pico who knows Pico could beat him. I feel like with him on staff have maybe better recuriting.

I still love looking forward to future years I really don't expect to see any team for awhile to run off 3,4 or five in a row for a few years. Even some unknow team will come along with one stud like Gwiz to knock off a contender or like a weak Iowa State team but had a stud like Gadson who pinned Synder.

I also hope my Hawks can join this group sooner than later ok .

Just don't be so darn hard on us ok we all know how everyone hates Iowa and we don't want to lose that for sure.

 

[a_mshaffer]

interesting observer to this board, and relatively new to it as well. One comment for a lot of the posters is that the fans that post here, just like me, are a very small minority of the fans of said teams. I am a Nitt fan and have my hopes for them every year (having grown up near State College). With that said, our opinion hardly represents the majority of the fan base.
Iowa is tough. I do agree with the lack of their offensive shots and they do seem to revel in the counter attacks but they are tough and they do win a lot. Iowa is going to be Iowa and will be around for a long time. Regardless where their kids come from, Iowa, like OK St is a staple for collegiate wrestling!

 

[jack66]

Looking at the bigger picture, we might be seeing an evolution in college wrestling.

Brands continues to recruit 'Iowa type' wrestlers, then teach them the Iowa way ... Evans got more conservative each year. Robinson continues to ask kids to cut large amts. of weight so they can maul their way to victory. Meanwhile, PSU and OSU are attracting kids who like to score points. As time goes by the more attractive they will become to that type of kid.. ASU might be the next team we see emerge.

The Hawks and Gophers will always be tough dual teams ... strong defense and low scores can work well in a dual settling. But what we've seen the last half decade could well be a portent of the future at tourney time. It's tough to run the gauntlet at NCAAs by pushing and shoving your way to victory.

Both Iowa and Minny had 5 seniors who were part of celebrated recruiting classes. Not one of them left with a NC to their credit and a 4th place finish is the best any of them could show their senior year ... hmmm.

This post was edited on 3/23 10:43 AM by jack66

 

[amalone]

Originally posted by jack66:

Looking at the bigger picture, we might be seeing an evolution in college wrestling.

Brands continues to recruit 'Iowa type' wrestlers, then teach them the Iowa way ... Evans got more conservative each year. Robinson continues to ask kids to cut large amts. of weight so they can maul their way to victory. Meanwhile, PSU and OSU are attracting kids who like to score points. As time goes by the more attractive they will become to that type of kid.. ASU might be the next team we see emerge.

The Hawks and Gophers will always be tough dual teams ... strong defense and low scores can work well in a dual settling. But what we've seen the last half decade could well be a portent of the future at tourney time. It's tough to run the gauntlet at NCAAs by pushing and shoving your way to victory.

Both Iowa and Minny had 5 seniors who were part of celebrated recruiting classes. Not one of them left with a NC to their credit and a 4th place finish is the best any of them could show their senior year ... hmmm.

This post was edited on 3/23 10:43 AM by jack66

All I can say Jack66 is.... THANK YOU. So well stated and all your points... valid. There has been a swing
in that direction when Cael came to Penn State. He preached bonus pts and he had elite wrestlers who could
do it. That formula let to 4 National Titles in a row. Ohio State lead by Logan Stieber, Nathan Tomasello and
Kyle Snyder looked to replicate that offensive mind set and Ohio State wins the 2015 NC.

I'll reference the highlighted statement you made at the bottom of your post. BINGO!!!!

 

[jammenz]

Minny had 5 seniors who were part of celebrated recruiting classes

Amalone is blowing smoke, as usual. Per Earl's D1CW, #5 Logan Storley is the only top ten recruit Minny has had in many many years. #81 Chris Dardanes was AA 4,6,4. #78 Scott Schiller was AA 5,3,4. When you compare that to #3 Gulibon's dnp, 4 and MM's #1 AA dnp, 7, 3, then you see how silly his statement is.

Fortunately, Minny recruiting has picked up in this rebuilding cycle.

 

[amalone]

Re: Minny had 5 seniors who were part of celebrated recruiting classes

Originally posted by jammenz:
Amalone is blowing smoke, as usual. Per Earl's D1CW, #5 Logan Storley is the only top ten recruit Minny has had in many many years. #81 Chris Dardanes was AA 4,6,4. #78 Scott Schiller was AA 5,3,4. When you compare that to #3 Gulibon's dnp, 4 and MM's #1 AA dnp, 7, 3, then you see how silly his statement is.

Fortunately, Minny recruiting has picked up in this rebuilding cycle.

You took 2nd last year and almost unseated Penn State's title run with that Senior class. You were 1 win from the title
and your senior, Tony Nelson, choked. Member that??? Selective memory?

You only have to replace half your team. Back to bottom dwelling for you and your team How about that Nationals
showing for the Gophers? Were they digging holes the entire time? NO one showed up for Minnesota with a senior
laden team.

 

[amalone]

I forgot to add... Quentin Wright took it to Dustin Kilgore who came in undefeated and had pinned Clayton Foster the prior year
at Nationals. All Q did was take Kilgore down three times in an unbelievable display of offensive wrestling and kept the title
where it belonged... in Happy Valley while Tony Nelson... well... flopped in his match with Gwiz. Then Dylan Ness got housed by Alex Dieringer. Remember that??

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Didnt really help MM when Campalattano wrecked Morgan's knee

freshman year. That skews his results.

 

[amalone]

Re: Minny had 5 seniors who were part of celebrated recruiting classes

Originally posted by jammenz:
Amalone is blowing smoke, as usual. Per Earl's D1CW, #5 Logan Storley is the only top ten recruit Minny has had in many many years. #81 Chris Dardanes was AA 4,6,4. #78 Scott Schiller was AA 5,3,4. When you compare that to #3 Gulibon's dnp, 4 and MM's #1 AA dnp, 7, 3, then you see how silly his statement is.

Fortunately, Minny recruiting has picked up in this rebuilding cycle.

For the LOVE of GOD and filthy little gophers, Jammenz. All of those recruits that you tried to show were only Top
100 recruits, Logan Storley being the highest ranked out of high school means squat. You know why? Because
at the collegiate level, Logan Storley, Chris Dardanes, and Scott Schiller along with Dylan Ness were all ranked
#1 at their respective weight class at some point in their careers while wrestling at Minnesota.

You know what the biggest number they share collectively.... the number ZERO. Zero individual titles amongst all
those #1 Minnesota wrestlers and zero team titles. Take your zeros... but them in your vacant brain and go dig a hole
away from Pennsylvania... where champions reside.



This post was edited on 3/23 5:50 PM by amalone

 

[NoVa Lion]

Re: Minny had 5 seniors who were part of celebrated recruiting classes

Originally posted by jammenz:
Amalone is blowing smoke, as usual. Per Earl's D1CW, #5 Logan Storley is the only top ten recruit Minny has had in many many years. #81 Chris Dardanes was AA 4,6,4. #78 Scott Schiller was AA 5,3,4. When you compare that to #3 Gulibon's dnp, 4 and MM's #1 AA dnp, 7, 3, then you see how silly his statement is.

Fortunately, Minny recruiting has picked up in this rebuilding cycle.

We should send this to Wikipedia and have it listed as the definition of the pot calling the kettle black for jammenz to accuse ANYONE of blowing smoke. ROTFLMAO.