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Illinois is unlike any team we have played thus far.


ILLINOIS OFFENSIVELY:

They are a dink-and-dunk offense (they throw the ball 60% of the time)

Their QB is a typical B12 type....sit back in the shotgun and distribute out of the short passing game.
He is NOT a runner....but he IS pretty efficient at getting the ball out quick, and is tough to sack due to the quick releases...and doesn't force a lot of balls downfield

They do not have any "scary" wideouts....Geronimo "Chief" Allison, #8, is their most dangerous threat - and he isn't "all that". #86 is a big physical guy (kinda built like Allen Robinson)....and they do push they ball downfield to him on occasion.

Josh Ferguson (who has seemingly been on the roster for 11 years) is their top back, but he has missed the last couple games (I'll have to check out their PC to see what his status is for Saturday, I understand "21" has spoken with Cubit, and he is expected to be forthcoming with the injury report :) )
If Ferguson doesn't go they have a FR RB who does a lot of the same things....runs the occasional draw, and gets involved as a check down in their passing game.

What could be scary about this offense:

Lunt (the QB) can be effective when given time. He can be very frustrating (ala the traditional Northwestern QBs over the years)....in that the pass rush guys can get frustrated trying to get to him before he delivers the ball.
Over the years, PSU has approached these types of teams by rushing 4, dropping 7 (or sometimes 8), keeping the play in front of them, and forcing the opposition to execute 7,8,9 plays in order to mount a scoring drive. This has generally been successful for PSU when they had a trio of talented LBers (Connor, Lee, Puz, Bowman, Mauti, Hodges etc) and a fairly pedestrian secondary.

I would hope PSU DOES NOT employ this same scheme on Saturday.
My concern would be that PSU does not have their typical deep, quick, athletic LBer corps, and Lunt could string together a lot of completions and allow Illinois to chew up the game clock, and wear down our defensive front. Given the amount of substitutions we see in a normal game, that would lead to a lot of "2nd team front" time for our defense, and also open up more running lanes against that 2nd team unit (when Illinois does choose to run)

What I WOULD hope PSU does on defense:
Play a lot of nickel (probably subbing out Reeder) to get more speed on the field.
Blitz a lot - not with the expectation of getting a lot of sacks, but to make Lunt hurry and get uncomfortable in the pocket (he looses accuracy when hurried. For a guy who dinks and dunks, his completion percentage is a fairly pedestrian "high 50s")
A lot of blitzes with Cabinda up the middle, Bell from the edge, and corners/nickles off of the short side.
I would like to see the PSU D be aggressive early, and not let Lunt get comfortable, and not let Illinois control the TOP. I think our athleticism in the back 7 matches up well enough that we can play a lot of man, without worrying too much about being beaten one-on-one.

If I am Illinois, I am hoping to control the clock, control the field position, and force the PSU O to drive long fields. If I (Illinois) can do that, and if the PSU offense sputters early, there is the very real chance to get this game into the late 3rd Q with PSU only putting up 10 points or so....which would leave Illinois in prime position to pull the upset.

SPECIAL TEAMS:

Overall, from what I can see this is a pretty pedestrian unit. Their punter may be the 2nd worst in the league (though I haven't looked at all the B1G teams). Kicker looks a little shaky on FGs. Return teams decent (a kid named Bentley is somewhat scary as a return guy)....coverage teams "OK"


ILLINOIS DEFENSIVELY:

I would NOT expect Illinois to be nearly as uber-aggressive as Maryland was.
If they do go that route, PSU has to come out right from the opening bell and take shots downfield.
PSU cannot afford to "feel out" Illinois early and have a couple of three-and-outs.....allowing Illinois to gain the early TOP and Field Position battle (our field position difficulties have been HUGE obstacles the last two weeks)

Illinois is a "crappy" pass rush team. #91 is a decent edge rusher from the DE spot.....but no one else on the team is much of a threat. (The PSU defense is #1 in the nation in sacks....Illinois is #111)
We SHOULD (even with our OL troubles) be able to give Hackenberg time (assuming Illinois doesn't go out of character and start jamming the box and blitzing every down - ala Maryland)
If we get the "normal" Illinois defense, Hackenberg has to be accurate early, and take advantage of his opportunities to set up and deliver the ball downfield....the Illinois secondary likes to play zone, and keep the ball in front of them. They are a very experienced, veteran group, and react with good ball skills to poorly thrown passes. It will be a challenge to keep Hackenberg's streak of "no interceptions" over the last five games intact for another week.

The Illinois defense plays more aggressively against the run. Their backers (especially the inside guy, #52) play very "downhill", and will shoot gaps on first step. Both safeties will shoot down into the box as well (kind of Marcus Allen-ish)....which should set them up for play-action IF we can establish some run game early.
It will also provide - if our OL is at least competent - some opportunities for the occasional big run for Barkley.....with his skills, if the line can keep the front four from forcing him to re-direct in the backfield, he may just make some of the IU back 7 defenders look silly.

I wouldn't be surprised if their attacking run defense style makes our run game look bad at times.....but if so, we can't completely abandon it, because we should eventually be able to catch some seams and get some nice gainers.

Overall.....assuming we do get decent pass protection, which we should get (cross your fingers anyway)....Hackenberg's early accuracy and decision making will be key. AND WE HAVE TO CONVERT SOME THIRD DOWNS to prevent Illinois from winning the early TOP and Field Position battle. Stick with the running to some degree, even if we don't have a lot of success early....and as the game goes along look for big plays downfield off of first down and "run down" play action.

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PSU should win this one. The thing I will be watching most closely..........time of possession and field position over the first 20 minutes of the game. If we are winning or even on those measures through 20 minutes, PSU could pull out to a fairly comfortable margin in the second half.
For IU to win, I think they need to win those battles early. If they do, it could be a rather ugly game.....and IU could very well be in position to wear down and frustrate our defensive front over 60 minutes.

Key men for PSU:
Hackenberg on offense
and
The LBers and Safeties in pass coverage on defense.


Enjoy!



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Good analysis. I have not watched any of Illinois' games, but I did "follow" their game with Nebraska (Gametracker, etc.). As bad as Nebraska's defense can be, they did limit Illinois to 14 points and did shut them out in the first half. I would expect PSU to score in the mid-to-upper 20s with Illinois being held to under 20 points. Illinois has had two road games so far...and has lost them both (North Carolina and Iowa). Great opportunity for PSU, hope they don't blow it like Nebraska did!
 
Illinois is unlike any team we have played thus far.


ILLINOIS OFFENSIVELY:

They are a dink-and-dunk offense (they throw the ball 60% of the time)

Their QB is a typical B12 type....sit back in the shotgun and distribute out of the short passing game.
He is NOT a runner....but he IS pretty efficient at getting the ball out quick, and is tough to sack due to the quick releases...and doesn't force a lot of balls downfield

They do not have any "scary" wideouts....Geronimo "Chief" Allison, #8, is their most dangerous threat - and he isn't "all that". #86 is a big physical guy (kinda built like Allen Robinson)....and they do push they ball downfield to him on occasion.

Josh Ferguson (who has seemingly been on the roster for 11 years) is their top back, but he has missed the last couple games (I'll have to check out their PC to see what his status is for Saturday, I understand "21" has spoken with Cubit, and he is expected to be forthcoming with the injury report :) )
If Ferguson doesn't go they have a FR RB who does a lot of the same things....runs the occasional draw, and gets involved as a check down in their passing game.

What could be scary about this offense:

Lunt (the QB) can be effective when given time. He can be very frustrating (ala the traditional Northwestern QBs over the years)....in that the pass rush guys can get frustrated trying to get to him before he delivers the ball.
Over the years, PSU has approached these types of teams by rushing 4, dropping 7 (or sometimes 8), keeping the play in front of them, and forcing the opposition to execute 7,8,9 plays in order to mount a scoring drive. This has generally been successful for PSU when they had a trio of talented LBers (Connor, Lee, Puz, Bowman, Mauti, Hodges etc) and a fairly pedestrian secondary.

I would hope PSU DOES NOT employ this same scheme on Saturday.
My concern would be that PSU does not have their typical deep, quick, athletic LBer corps, and Lunt could string together a lot of completions and allow Illinois to chew up the game clock, and wear down our defensive front. Given the amount of substitutions we see in a normal game, that would lead to a lot of "2nd team front" time for our defense, and also open up more running lanes against that 2nd team unit (when Illinois does choose to run)

What I WOULD hope PSU does on defense:
Play a lot of nickel (probably subbing out Reeder) to get more speed on the field.
Blitz a lot - not with the expectation of getting a lot of sacks, but to make Lunt hurry and get uncomfortable in the pocket (he looses accuracy when hurried. For a guy who dinks and dunks, his completion percentage is a fairly pedestrian "high 50s")
A lot of blitzes with Cabinda up the middle, Bell from the edge, and corners/nickles off of the short side.
I would like to see the PSU D be aggressive early, and not let Lunt get comfortable, and not let Illinois control the TOP. I think our athleticism in the back 7 matches up well enough that we can play a lot of man, without worrying too much about being beaten one-on-one.

If I am Illinois, I am hoping to control the clock, control the field position, and force the PSU O to drive long fields. If I (Illinois) can do that, and if the PSU offense sputters early, there is the very real chance to get this game into the late 3rd Q with PSU only putting up 10 points or so....which would leave Illinois in prime position to pull the upset.

SPECIAL TEAMS:

Overall, from what I can see this is a pretty pedestrian unit. Their punter may be the 2nd worst in the league (though I haven't looked at all the B1G teams). Kicker looks a little shaky on FGs. Return teams decent (a kid named Bentley is somewhat scary as a return guy)....coverage teams "OK"


ILLINOIS DEFENSIVELY:

I would NOT expect Illinois to be nearly as uber-aggressive as Maryland was.
If they do go that route, PSU has to come out right from the opening bell and take shots downfield.
PSU cannot afford to "feel out" Illinois early and have a couple of three-and-outs.....allowing Illinois to gain the early TOP and Field Position battle (our field position difficulties have been HUGE obstacles the last two weeks)

Illinois is a "crappy" pass rush team. #91 is a decent edge rusher from the DE spot.....but no one else on the team is much of a threat. (The PSU defense is #1 in the nation in sacks....Illinois is #111)
We SHOULD (even with our OL troubles) be able to give Hackenberg time (assuming Illinois doesn't go out of character and start jamming the box and blitzing every down - ala Maryland)
If we get the "normal" Illinois defense, Hackenberg has to be accurate early, and take advantage of his opportunities to set up and deliver the ball downfield....the Illinois secondary likes to play zone, and keep the ball in front of them. They are a very experienced, veteran group, and react with good ball skills to poorly thrown passes. It will be a challenge to keep Hackenberg's streak of "no interceptions" over the last five games intact for another week.

The Illinois defense plays more aggressively against the run. Their backers (especially the inside guy, #52) play very "downhill", and will shoot gaps on first step. Both safeties will shoot down into the box as well (kind of Marcus Allen-ish)....which should set them up for play-action IF we can establish some run game early.
It will also provide - if our OL is at least competent - some opportunities for the occasional big run for Barkley.....with his skills, if the line can keep the front four from forcing him to re-direct in the backfield, he may just make some of the IU back 7 defenders look silly.

I wouldn't be surprised if their attacking run defense style makes our run game look bad at times.....but if so, we can't completely abandon it, because we should eventually be able to catch some seams and get some nice gainers.

Overall.....assuming we do get decent pass protection, which we should get (cross your fingers anyway)....Hackenberg's early accuracy and decision making will be key. AND WE HAVE TO CONVERT SOME THIRD DOWNS to prevent Illinois from winning the early TOP and Field Position battle. Stick with the running to some degree, even if we don't have a lot of success early....and as the game goes along look for big plays downfield off of first down and "run down" play action.

__________________________________________

PSU should win this one. The thing I will be watching most closely..........time of possession and field position over the first 20 minutes of the game. If we are winning or even on those measures through 20 minutes, PSU could pull out to a fairly comfortable margin in the second half.
For IU to win, I think they need to win those battles early. If they do, it could be a rather ugly game.....and IU could very well be in position to wear down and frustrate our defensive front over 60 minutes.

Key men for PSU:
Hackenberg on offense
and
The LBers and Safeties in pass coverage on defense.


Enjoy!



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Excellent right up.
Yea Ferguson does seem like he's been there forever. I listened to Jed and Phil last night and they didn't know if he would play or not but I think they were leaning to the "not" side.

Lunt could be a P.I.A. he can be streaky good.
 
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I feel like PSU matches up better against this kind of offense, then the running QB, read/option. The key is how well our young LB's play against a short passing game team. We should be able to get a decent rush with our front four and cover with seven. I like our CB's against their WR's. A key is their TE's, slot and RB's against our LBers.
 
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I feel like PSU matches up better against this kind of offense, then the running QB, read/option. The key is how well our young LB's play against a short passing game team. We should be able to get a decent rush with our front four and cover with seven. I like our CB's against their WR's. A key is their TE's, slot and RB's against our LBers.
I agree with the overall match up for our defense (vav an offense with a dual threat QB)

I will add that PSU won't get to Lunt with a four man rush......or at least I will be VERY surprised if they generate sacks from a four man rush.

He just gets rid of the ball too quickly in that system (and he is a good fit for that system). If PSU wants to disrupt him - and I think they BETTER disrupt him (even if they don't sack him) - I will be very surprised if they can do that without sending an extra guy on a regular basis (or mixing in some "zone-blitz" stuff....we have shown some glimpses of that in the last year and 1/2....even ran a bit of it against Maryland).

Its like when we played NW under Walker....the defensive line - even if they kicked the ass of the guy in front of them - gets two steps across the line and the ball is gone. Gotta' find a way to get clean lanes/shots at him. Almost impossible for any down lineman to do who is playing out of a three/four point stance directly across from an offensive lineman..
 
I agree with the overall match up for our defense (vav an offense with a dual threat QB)

I will add that PSU won't get to Lunt with a four man rush......or at least I will be VERY surprised if they generate sacks from a four man rush.

He just gets rid of the ball too quickly in that system (and he is a good fit for that system). If PSU wants to disrupt him - and I think they BETTER disrupt him (even if they don't sack him) - I will be very surprised if they can do that without sending an extra guy on a regular basis (or mixing in some "zone-blitz" stuff....we have shown some glimpses of that in the last year and 1/2....even ran a bit of it against Maryland).

Its like when we played NW under Walker....the defensive line - even if they kicked the ass of the guy in front of them - gets two steps across the line and the ball is gone. Gotta' find a way to get clean lanes/shots at him. Almost impossible for any down lineman to do who is playing out of a three/four point stance directly across from an offensive lineman..

Did you read the new Tale of the Tape from the MD game?
According to him we ran a good bit of the zone blitz and was pretty successful for the most part.
I bet we see a lot more of it on Sat.
 
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Did you read the new Tale of the Tape from the MD game?
According to him we ran a good bit of the zone blitz and was pretty successful for the most part.
I bet we see a lot more of it on Sat.
Yep....just checked it out....that is exactly what I was referring to above (love how he is able to mix in the video to show the concepts)

Love that guy's write-ups.

UMd beat us with a few runs out of that package (most notably the 3rd and goal from the 10, when PSU was obviously thinking "pass"....incidentally, whomever the knucklehead commentator was, he went on and on about how Nassib was blown back 10 yards off of the LOS. Apparently he missed the entire zone-blitz concept that PSU was in - with Nassib dropping back on his own into the left flat :) ) I don't think Illinois is as likely to hurt us with that....since they are a true pass-heavy team without a QB run option.
 
One thing I haven't seen mentioned this year is I think we've knocked down/tipped quite a few passes at the LOS, especially Zettel. With a "dink and dunk" passer maybe we'll get an interception or two. Would love to see AZ take one back
 
One thing I haven't seen mentioned this year is I think we've knocked down/tipped quite a few passes at the LOS, especially Zettel. With a "dink and dunk" passer maybe we'll get an interception or two. Would love to see AZ take one back
Good point. Looked to me like, on the final INT, it may have been tipped by Johnson. If not, it was darn close and may have caused the overthrow.
 
One thing I haven't seen mentioned this year is I think we've knocked down/tipped quite a few passes at the LOS, especially Zettel. With a "dink and dunk" passer maybe we'll get an interception or two. Would love to see AZ take one back

Thats true and I bet Nassib's long arms are part of the reason.
But Lunt is 6'5" so I doubt we will see too many this week.
unless he has a side arm delivery or something.
 
One thing I haven't seen mentioned this year is I think we've knocked down/tipped quite a few passes at the LOS, especially Zettel. With a "dink and dunk" passer maybe we'll get an interception or two. Would love to see AZ take one back
That is certainly one of the things you look for....and I agree, the PSU D Line has done a good job of that (esp. AZ)
Its not easy, you have to get as deep as possible with that initial push, and then do a very good job of timing when you get the hands up.....but it is something you look for against those offenses - take away some of the windows by having the D Line get close enough to impede with their hands. AZ has a knack for that.

Lunt is pretty solid....and he knows how to run that offense....so it is not an easy task.
 
Interesting stat for Illinois offensively. In all their games to date with only a single outlier (W. Illinois), they have been between 333 and 399 total net yards.
In other words, they managed about the same number of yards against Mid Tennessee (378) as they did against Iowa (363). Not sure what it means, but I found it curious.
Against Iowa and Wisky, their rushing yards were awful. ..46 and 55 respectively. I think we can contain their run game, concentrate on the short passing game and win this thing.
 
From an Illini fan - Ferguson sounds like he's out again, "very doubtful". His replacement is true frosh Vaughn, despite what was written above, he's not really much like Ferg. He's more of a true RB whereas Josh is a scatback, very quick and nimble and a threat to break big plays. Vaughn has good vision, but not the quicks.

Our WRs as noted aren't really too special without Dudek. The staff has compiled stats on dropped passes, and it's somewhere north of 40 for the season. So basically everything is on Lunt's shoulders, he needs to be very good. And our one remaining TE is now out for the season with a torn ACL.

On D, the front 4 is the strength. Despite the lack of sack #s, they have done a good job of getting pressure and have been very good against the run, with the exception of allowing a few big plays. Biggest problem is zero depth, so they tend to wear down during the game. Behind them, LBs and DBs are experienced but lack speed. Former walkon Fejedelam at safety is a big hitter and great at run support.

This game seems like a lot of what Illinois has seen so far in the league, and will see down the road. Good defenses, shaky offenses. I'm not sure the Illini will be able to score enough to win, but there's certainly a chance.
 
Couldn't agree much more.

"From an Illini fan - Ferguson sounds like he's out again, "very doubtful". His replacement is true frosh Vaughn, despite what was written above, he's not really much like Ferg. He's more of a true RB whereas Josh is a scatback, very quick and nimble and a threat to break big plays. Vaughn has good vision, but not the quicks.

Our WRs as noted aren't really too special without Dudek.
[I wouldn't run them down completely, physically, those guys look pretty good getting "off the bus"....nice size, run pretty well...but. yes, on the field they haven't really gotten it done, but if the skills ever rise up to the athleticism, they could be good down the road (hopefully that doesn't happen on Saturday :) ] The staff has compiled stats on dropped passes, and it's somewhere north of 40 for the season. So basically everything is on Lunt's shoulders, he needs to be very good. And our one remaining TE is now out for the season with a torn ACL.

On D, the front 4 is the strength. Despite the lack of sack #s, they have done a good job of getting pressure and have been very good against the run, with the exception of allowing a few big plays.
[I think, as I mentioned above, a lot of that has to do with style....its a high risk run defense, with some aggressive shooting into the gaps....as opposed to stacking the LBers behind the line and having them flow to the ball You'll likely generate a lot of 0 yard gains with that, but when a guy is able to hit a crease, it's off into the secondary with the RB. PSU has to be patient] Biggest problem is zero depth, so they tend to wear down during the game. Behind them, LBs and DBs are experienced but lack speed. Former walkon Fejedelam at safety is a big hitter and great at run support.[I compared your safety play to being Marcus Allen-ish. As an Illini that may not have registered as the compliment that PSUers would know it is. Allen is a tough physical run stopper from the safety spot....very aggressive, which is similar to the Illini kids....though I think Allen may have a bit more versatility and athleticism than your back line guys]

This game seems like a lot of what Illinois has seen so far in the league, and will see down the road. Good defenses, shaky offenses. I'm not sure the Illini will be able to score enough to win, but there's certainly a chance"
Yep....if you are making the trip in, I hope you enjoy your weekend. I don't think Illinois is a long-shot in this one at all....though I think PSU is rightfully favored.
 
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Illinois is unlike any team we have played thus far.


ILLINOIS OFFENSIVELY:

They are a dink-and-dunk offense (they throw the ball 60% of the time)

Their QB is a typical B12 type....sit back in the shotgun and distribute out of the short passing game.
He is NOT a runner....but he IS pretty efficient at getting the ball out quick, and is tough to sack due to the quick releases...and doesn't force a lot of balls downfield

They do not have any "scary" wideouts....Geronimo "Chief" Allison, #8, is their most dangerous threat - and he isn't "all that". #86 is a big physical guy (kinda built like Allen Robinson)....and they do push they ball downfield to him on occasion.

Josh Ferguson (who has seemingly been on the roster for 11 years) is their top back, but he has missed the last couple games (I'll have to check out their PC to see what his status is for Saturday, I understand "21" has spoken with Cubit, and he is expected to be forthcoming with the injury report :) )
If Ferguson doesn't go they have a FR RB who does a lot of the same things....runs the occasional draw, and gets involved as a check down in their passing game.

What could be scary about this offense:

Lunt (the QB) can be effective when given time. He can be very frustrating (ala the traditional Northwestern QBs over the years)....in that the pass rush guys can get frustrated trying to get to him before he delivers the ball.
Over the years, PSU has approached these types of teams by rushing 4, dropping 7 (or sometimes 8), keeping the play in front of them, and forcing the opposition to execute 7,8,9 plays in order to mount a scoring drive. This has generally been successful for PSU when they had a trio of talented LBers (Connor, Lee, Puz, Bowman, Mauti, Hodges etc) and a fairly pedestrian secondary.

I would hope PSU DOES NOT employ this same scheme on Saturday.
My concern would be that PSU does not have their typical deep, quick, athletic LBer corps, and Lunt could string together a lot of completions and allow Illinois to chew up the game clock, and wear down our defensive front. Given the amount of substitutions we see in a normal game, that would lead to a lot of "2nd team front" time for our defense, and also open up more running lanes against that 2nd team unit (when Illinois does choose to run)

What I WOULD hope PSU does on defense:
Play a lot of nickel (probably subbing out Reeder) to get more speed on the field.
Blitz a lot - not with the expectation of getting a lot of sacks, but to make Lunt hurry and get uncomfortable in the pocket (he looses accuracy when hurried. For a guy who dinks and dunks, his completion percentage is a fairly pedestrian "high 50s")
A lot of blitzes with Cabinda up the middle, Bell from the edge, and corners/nickles off of the short side.
I would like to see the PSU D be aggressive early, and not let Lunt get comfortable, and not let Illinois control the TOP. I think our athleticism in the back 7 matches up well enough that we can play a lot of man, without worrying too much about being beaten one-on-one.

If I am Illinois, I am hoping to control the clock, control the field position, and force the PSU O to drive long fields. If I (Illinois) can do that, and if the PSU offense sputters early, there is the very real chance to get this game into the late 3rd Q with PSU only putting up 10 points or so....which would leave Illinois in prime position to pull the upset.

SPECIAL TEAMS:

Overall, from what I can see this is a pretty pedestrian unit. Their punter may be the 2nd worst in the league (though I haven't looked at all the B1G teams). Kicker looks a little shaky on FGs. Return teams decent (a kid named Bentley is somewhat scary as a return guy)....coverage teams "OK"


ILLINOIS DEFENSIVELY:

I would NOT expect Illinois to be nearly as uber-aggressive as Maryland was.
If they do go that route, PSU has to come out right from the opening bell and take shots downfield.
PSU cannot afford to "feel out" Illinois early and have a couple of three-and-outs.....allowing Illinois to gain the early TOP and Field Position battle (our field position difficulties have been HUGE obstacles the last two weeks)

Illinois is a "crappy" pass rush team. #91 is a decent edge rusher from the DE spot.....but no one else on the team is much of a threat. (The PSU defense is #1 in the nation in sacks....Illinois is #111)
We SHOULD (even with our OL troubles) be able to give Hackenberg time (assuming Illinois doesn't go out of character and start jamming the box and blitzing every down - ala Maryland)
If we get the "normal" Illinois defense, Hackenberg has to be accurate early, and take advantage of his opportunities to set up and deliver the ball downfield....the Illinois secondary likes to play zone, and keep the ball in front of them. They are a very experienced, veteran group, and react with good ball skills to poorly thrown passes. It will be a challenge to keep Hackenberg's streak of "no interceptions" over the last five games intact for another week.

The Illinois defense plays more aggressively against the run. Their backers (especially the inside guy, #52) play very "downhill", and will shoot gaps on first step. Both safeties will shoot down into the box as well (kind of Marcus Allen-ish)....which should set them up for play-action IF we can establish some run game early.
It will also provide - if our OL is at least competent - some opportunities for the occasional big run for Barkley.....with his skills, if the line can keep the front four from forcing him to re-direct in the backfield, he may just make some of the IU back 7 defenders look silly.

I wouldn't be surprised if their attacking run defense style makes our run game look bad at times.....but if so, we can't completely abandon it, because we should eventually be able to catch some seams and get some nice gainers.

Overall.....assuming we do get decent pass protection, which we should get (cross your fingers anyway)....Hackenberg's early accuracy and decision making will be key. AND WE HAVE TO CONVERT SOME THIRD DOWNS to prevent Illinois from winning the early TOP and Field Position battle. Stick with the running to some degree, even if we don't have a lot of success early....and as the game goes along look for big plays downfield off of first down and "run down" play action.

__________________________________________

PSU should win this one. The thing I will be watching most closely..........time of possession and field position over the first 20 minutes of the game. If we are winning or even on those measures through 20 minutes, PSU could pull out to a fairly comfortable margin in the second half.
For IU to win, I think they need to win those battles early. If they do, it could be a rather ugly game.....and IU could very well be in position to wear down and frustrate our defensive front over 60 minutes.

Key men for PSU:
Hackenberg on offense
and
The LBers and Safeties in pass coverage on defense.


Enjoy!



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Good summary. One big advantage that I think favors PSU is ILL lack of ability to get to the QB - ILL is dead last in "Sacks By" through 7 games. I know that conversely PSU is dead last in giving up sacks, but I still say ILL has no choice but to do what UMd did (put everyone at LOS) after seeing what Barkley did against tO$U attempting to play hat-on-hat. If tO$U couldn't stop him playing with a base hat-on-hat equal protect run/pass defense, neither can ILL. UMd realized this and picked their poison choosing to shutdown the run and Barkley and rolling the dice on CH & Co. beating them downfield - they lost as PSU repeatedly beating UMd deep w/ big scoring plays registering 325 passing yards and 3 TD Passes on only 13 completions! IOW, rougly every 4th completed pass by PSU went for a TD and the average completed PSU pass went for 25 yards! ILL will not "sit back" and see how PSU's running game does IMO - they'll come after them and I like PSU's chances given that they're playing at home and ILL is not a great "pressure defense" team IMHO. This game sets up a little like Indy...people are underestimating what home-field advantage will mean to PSU and I think ILL's offense is in for a bad day going up against a proud defense led by a stout and seasoned front 4 that is going to have a chip on it's shoulder after the last couple weeks. I think PSU comes out and wins this game.
 
I just hope we can avoid the stupid mistakes that cost us last year's game. I recall the offsides on a punt that led to a TD right before halftime and a KO to start the 2nd half that was not covered. There were a few more that I can't recall right now.
 
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Illinois is unlike any team we have played thus far.


ILLINOIS OFFENSIVELY:

They are a dink-and-dunk offense (they throw the ball 60% of the time)

Their QB is a typical B12 type....sit back in the shotgun and distribute out of the short passing game.
He is NOT a runner....but he IS pretty efficient at getting the ball out quick, and is tough to sack due to the quick releases...and doesn't force a lot of balls downfield

They do not have any "scary" wideouts....Geronimo "Chief" Allison, #8, is their most dangerous threat - and he isn't "all that". #86 is a big physical guy (kinda built like Allen Robinson)....and they do push they ball downfield to him on occasion.

Josh Ferguson (who has seemingly been on the roster for 11 years) is their top back, but he has missed the last couple games (I'll have to check out their PC to see what his status is for Saturday, I understand "21" has spoken with Cubit, and he is expected to be forthcoming with the injury report :) )
If Ferguson doesn't go they have a FR RB who does a lot of the same things....runs the occasional draw, and gets involved as a check down in their passing game.

What could be scary about this offense:

Lunt (the QB) can be effective when given time. He can be very frustrating (ala the traditional Northwestern QBs over the years)....in that the pass rush guys can get frustrated trying to get to him before he delivers the ball.
Over the years, PSU has approached these types of teams by rushing 4, dropping 7 (or sometimes 8), keeping the play in front of them, and forcing the opposition to execute 7,8,9 plays in order to mount a scoring drive. This has generally been successful for PSU when they had a trio of talented LBers (Connor, Lee, Puz, Bowman, Mauti, Hodges etc) and a fairly pedestrian secondary.

I would hope PSU DOES NOT employ this same scheme on Saturday.
My concern would be that PSU does not have their typical deep, quick, athletic LBer corps, and Lunt could string together a lot of completions and allow Illinois to chew up the game clock, and wear down our defensive front. Given the amount of substitutions we see in a normal game, that would lead to a lot of "2nd team front" time for our defense, and also open up more running lanes against that 2nd team unit (when Illinois does choose to run)

What I WOULD hope PSU does on defense:
Play a lot of nickel (probably subbing out Reeder) to get more speed on the field.
Blitz a lot - not with the expectation of getting a lot of sacks, but to make Lunt hurry and get uncomfortable in the pocket (he looses accuracy when hurried. For a guy who dinks and dunks, his completion percentage is a fairly pedestrian "high 50s")
A lot of blitzes with Cabinda up the middle, Bell from the edge, and corners/nickles off of the short side.
I would like to see the PSU D be aggressive early, and not let Lunt get comfortable, and not let Illinois control the TOP. I think our athleticism in the back 7 matches up well enough that we can play a lot of man, without worrying too much about being beaten one-on-one.

If I am Illinois, I am hoping to control the clock, control the field position, and force the PSU O to drive long fields. If I (Illinois) can do that, and if the PSU offense sputters early, there is the very real chance to get this game into the late 3rd Q with PSU only putting up 10 points or so....which would leave Illinois in prime position to pull the upset.

SPECIAL TEAMS:

Overall, from what I can see this is a pretty pedestrian unit. Their punter may be the 2nd worst in the league (though I haven't looked at all the B1G teams). Kicker looks a little shaky on FGs. Return teams decent (a kid named Bentley is somewhat scary as a return guy)....coverage teams "OK"


ILLINOIS DEFENSIVELY:

I would NOT expect Illinois to be nearly as uber-aggressive as Maryland was.
If they do go that route, PSU has to come out right from the opening bell and take shots downfield.
PSU cannot afford to "feel out" Illinois early and have a couple of three-and-outs.....allowing Illinois to gain the early TOP and Field Position battle (our field position difficulties have been HUGE obstacles the last two weeks)

Illinois is a "crappy" pass rush team. #91 is a decent edge rusher from the DE spot.....but no one else on the team is much of a threat. (The PSU defense is #1 in the nation in sacks....Illinois is #111)
We SHOULD (even with our OL troubles) be able to give Hackenberg time (assuming Illinois doesn't go out of character and start jamming the box and blitzing every down - ala Maryland)
If we get the "normal" Illinois defense, Hackenberg has to be accurate early, and take advantage of his opportunities to set up and deliver the ball downfield....the Illinois secondary likes to play zone, and keep the ball in front of them. They are a very experienced, veteran group, and react with good ball skills to poorly thrown passes. It will be a challenge to keep Hackenberg's streak of "no interceptions" over the last five games intact for another week.

The Illinois defense plays more aggressively against the run. Their backers (especially the inside guy, #52) play very "downhill", and will shoot gaps on first step. Both safeties will shoot down into the box as well (kind of Marcus Allen-ish)....which should set them up for play-action IF we can establish some run game early.
It will also provide - if our OL is at least competent - some opportunities for the occasional big run for Barkley.....with his skills, if the line can keep the front four from forcing him to re-direct in the backfield, he may just make some of the IU back 7 defenders look silly.

I wouldn't be surprised if their attacking run defense style makes our run game look bad at times.....but if so, we can't completely abandon it, because we should eventually be able to catch some seams and get some nice gainers.

Overall.....assuming we do get decent pass protection, which we should get (cross your fingers anyway)....Hackenberg's early accuracy and decision making will be key. AND WE HAVE TO CONVERT SOME THIRD DOWNS to prevent Illinois from winning the early TOP and Field Position battle. Stick with the running to some degree, even if we don't have a lot of success early....and as the game goes along look for big plays downfield off of first down and "run down" play action.

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PSU should win this one. The thing I will be watching most closely..........time of possession and field position over the first 20 minutes of the game. If we are winning or even on those measures through 20 minutes, PSU could pull out to a fairly comfortable margin in the second half.
For IU to win, I think they need to win those battles early. If they do, it could be a rather ugly game.....and IU could very well be in position to wear down and frustrate our defensive front over 60 minutes.

Key men for PSU:
Hackenberg on offense
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The LBers and Safeties in pass coverage on defense.


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Nice breakdown.
 
I will add that PSU won't get to Lunt with a four man rush......or at least I will be VERY surprised if they generate sacks from a four man rush.

He just gets rid of the ball too quickly in that system (and he is a good fit for that system).

Wait a minute, so you are saying that coaches can develop a game plan that gets the ball out of the QBs hands quickly? That might be useful if say a team didn't have a great OL.
 
Wait a minute, so you are saying that coaches can develop a game plan that gets the ball out of the QBs hands quickly? That might be useful if say a team didn't have a great OL.
Sure you can. And we'd all like to see the number of sacks against Hackenberg reduced.

That doesn't mean that a quick release passing game is a panacea for all ills.

Illinois passing game certainly emphasizes quick release passes.....and they've only been sacked a handful of times all year (off the top of my head, I would guess they've been sacked less all season than Hackenberg was in Game 1 alone).......

Despite that, they are averaged under 13 ppg in the B1G - PSU is averaging 32 ppg.
 
Despite that, they are averaged under 13 ppg in the B1G - PSU is averaging 32 ppg.

Reminds me of another issue, we really struggle in the red zone. Too many FG and failed 4th down tries. Of course, that goes along with an offense that doesn't run the ball well.

Also you guys should check this site in the next few days, one of the writers does a "scout" of the opponent, would be interested to see what you think of it.
 
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Be ready for a dog-fight when Illinois comes to town. Penn State should win but I would not be surprised that Illinois came through instead.

Illinois 20
PSU 23
 
Reminds me of another issue, we really struggle in the red zone. Too many FG and failed 4th down tries. Of course, that goes along with an offense that doesn't run the ball well.

Also you guys should check this site in the next few days, one of the writers does a "scout" of the opponent, would be interested to see what you think of it.
I - for one - will........but if its not a heck of a lot better than his post game "wraps", it won't be worth looking at.

Hopefully, the pre-game stuff will be better.
 
I think we might finally see a decent win. If Barkley gets going and we let Christian bomb some again this week then something like 24-3. The D should come back with a vengeance against a much better match up. UNC put up 48 on them, so there should be opportunity.
 
I think we might finally see a decent win. If Barkley gets going and we let Christian bomb some again this week then something like 24-3. The D should come back with a vengeance against a much better match up. UNC put up 48 on them, so there should be opportunity.
Love to see that :) .....I don't think we will.... :-(

But I do expect a close win!
 

He picked PSU and all, but his bullshat comments about Coach Franklin clearly identify him as a classic "old line" b1g ten douche..."he hasn't surpassed 7 wins since coming to PSU...MSU will relegate them to 4th in b1g East every year....blah, blah, blah". Last year was Coach Franklin's 1st year and he was handed an illegitimate sanctions and predecessor ravaged roster, but Joe Dirt here isn't going to let little things like facts stand in the way of his trolling.
 
Despite that, they are averaged under 13 ppg in the B1G - PSU is averaging 32 ppg.


Not quite...they are averaging just under 16/game in B1G games:
NE -14
IA - 20
WI - 13

PSU is averaging 24.5/game in B1G games:
RU - 28
IN - 29
OSU - 10
MD - 31

I don't expect a blowout, but I think PSU wins by about that same 9 point difference, provided the OL isn't suffering any more injuries.
 
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Getting ready to head up to the stadium. Bumping this outstanding post.
 
Not quite...they are averaging just under 16/game in B1G games:
NE -14
IA - 20
WI - 13

PSU is averaging 24.5/game in B1G games:
RU - 28
IN - 29
OSU - 10
MD - 31

I don't expect a blowout, but I think PSU wins by about that same 9 point difference, provided the OL isn't suffering any more injuries.
Northwestern, Iowa, and Wisconsin have substantially better defenses than Rutgers, Indiana, and Maryland.
 
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