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Intermat names Mark Hall freshman wrestler of the year

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I'm posting this because it wasn't, and because it feels like Mark has taken a lot of crap on line due to the fact that his opponents were good and his victories were hard fought. There are beefs about the refs and there are beefs about "stalling". This is both uninformed and weak. The fact is Mark figured out how to win before he showed up, before the refs made there calls and before his opponents put in less sophisticated performances. Mark had the cooler head and the bigger heart and he won. It's feels pretty good that the informed folks at Intermat agree. The next three years are going to be a domination.
 
Congrats to Mark Hall! He is well deserving of this award.

There wasn't anything easy about the path he took -- competing alone, and winning the Southern Scuffle; changing his mind and pulling off his redshirt; entering the dual season in the toughest environment (Carver Hawkeye with 15,000+ cheering against him); making a good showing in the B1G championships; and then fighting through some tough (and physically imposing) competition to claim the national title.

He did it all with class.
 
Joseph #2 and Suraino #7, as well. Man, our guys end up at the top of a lot of lists.

Our freshman NQ starters the past seven years:
2011- Taylor, Ruth, A. Alton
2012- Nico, D.Alton, McIntosh
2013- Conaway
2014- Gulibon, Retherford
2015- McCutcheon
2016- Nolf, Nickal
2017- Suriano, Joseph, Hall

Nevills likely on that list if not due to injury, Martellotti too if not due to eligiblity

Pretty Incredible
 
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Since it is officially the off-season... dedicated thread worthy, imo. Hahaha.
 
Our freshman NQ starters the past seven years:
2011- Taylor, Ruth, A. Alton
2012- Nico, D.Alton, McIntosh
2013- Conaway
2014- Gulibon, Retherford
2015- McCutcheon
2016- Nolf, Nickal
2017- Joseph, Hall

Nevills and Suriano likely on that list if not due to injury, Martellotti too if not due to eligiblity

Pretty Incredible
Suriano did qualify for nationals. He didn't participate.
 
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As I mentioned in the thread that Tom references here, back to back years with the top two Frosh in this list is darn impressive. And we were possibly a bum ankle away from having the top three Freshmen this year
 
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Congrats to Mark Hall! He is well deserving of this award.

There wasn't anything easy about the path he took -- competing alone, and winning the Southern Scuffle; changing his mind and pulling off his redshirt; entering the dual season in the toughest environment (Carver Hawkeye with 15,000+ cheering against him); making a good showing in the B1G championships; and then fighting through some tough (and physically imposing) competition to claim the national title.

He did it all with class.

Well said! Congrats Mark.
 
It is quite impressive that a freshman who defeats a 2 time reigning champion comes in 2nd to someone on his own team. We are so spoiled.
It's tough to now remember what it was like BC, but as Cael says, we have to be grateful for our opportunities. This last eight years has been a fun ride, but it's good to reflect on how good we have it now. Let's get him signed to a new contract and get done what he wants done for the betterment of the whole program.
 
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I just took a look at the youtube comments on our finals matches. Did you know:

1. Cenzo got lucky and caught Imar?
2. Mark stalled the whole match?
3. Bo stalled the whole match?
4. Zain uses an illegal hold?
5. Jason got lucky because the "bracket opened up"?

Wow, the things you learn on youtube!
 
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I really liked how Mark talked about getting his offense on his feet up to speed. Not that it's not, but I think he's just comparing himself with the guys around him and maybe trying to emulate that - sounds like a good plan. Throw in a few more offensive moves from his feet and he'll be like Zain & Nolf.
 
Yep. They got "1994 National Championship" T shirts.

Those are just about as worthless.
Not to rain on your parade 21Guns, but those "1994" T-shirts were well earned and deserved....in 1994. Don't downplay their accomplishments and stoop to their levels. Your comments are in very poor taste even if you're being sarcastic. They WERE past champions ... emphasis on the word WERE....but champions none the less.
 
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Not to rain on your parade 21Guns, but those "1994" T-shirts were well earned and deserved....in 1994. Don't downplay their accomplishments and stoop to their levels. Your comments are in very poor taste even if you're being sarcastic. They WERE past champions ... emphasis on the word WERE....but champions none the less.

Those accomplishments were tainted by an unfair vote from a partial national media. Vegas oddsmakers have repeatedly said that PSU would have been a 7 point favorite, had they met.
 
Vegas oddsmakers are basing there odds on the way people are likely to bet, not necessarily the way they think the event will go. They make their best money if they have equal amounts bet on both sides. If one group of backers bet way more than the other, the odds will swing even if the actual performance of the teams don't change.
 
Those accomplishments were tainted by an unfair vote from a partial national media. Vegas oddsmakers have repeatedly said that PSU would have been a 7 point favorite, had they met.
Obviously that's your opinion as to it being a tainted vote. 1994 was indeed a long, long time ago.....but again, they were champions regardless of your opinion....
 
Worthless? Some poor kids in Africa call that their favorite shirt.

Saw an economics article that included things like gifting t-shirts into poor areas in Africa and other benevolent gifts.

The analysis said it would be far better to help local people and local companies get strong and established. While gifts sounded good on the surface, taking away that market demand held down much needed jobs and employment, by undercutting local businesses and denying the local governments the much needed tax revenue.

A very different twist told from the point of view of the areas where economic growth, jobs and taxes were desperately needed. The "free stuff" had a downside. Gifting means of production and supplying affordable business and personal loans would be more helpful for some areas of their economies.

More of a teach a person to fish pov, vs giving a person fish to eat for 3 days. That sort of thing.

Your mileage may vary. Certainly benevolence also has a place, with people helping people.

Of course the article was much more specific and effective in making their points and in giving examples to support their points of view. .
 
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Saw an economics article that included things like gifting t-shirts into poor areas in Africa and other benevolent gifts.

The anslysis said it would be far better to help local people and local companies get strong and established. While gifts sounded good on the surface, tsking aeay that market demand held down much needed jobs and employment, by undercutting local businesses and denying the local governments of needed tax revenue.

A very different twist told from the point of view of the areas where economic growth, jobs and taxes were desperately needed. But "free stuff" also had a downside, Gifting means of production and supplying affordable business and personal loans would be more helpful for some areas of their economies.

More of a teach a person to fish pov, vs giving s person fish for 3 days. That sort of thing.

Your mileage may vary. Certainly benevolence also has a place, with people helping people.

Certainly the article was much more specific and effective in making their points and in giving examples to support their points of view. .
Another T (space, somehow) J classic post.

Hey bro, can you give me an update on global warming, I mean complete with all the pie graphs and flow charts, etc...those are solid gold!
 
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Another T (space, somehow) J classic post.

Hey bro, can you give me an update on global warming, I mean complete with all the pie graphs and flow charts, etc...those are solid gold!

Below is a more bottom line analysis, that looks at the practical and economic implications of the opposing sides' proposals, that you might enjoy.

Is it better to try to reduce potential or alleged changes or to deal with specifics when and if they ever arise?

Enjoy!

BTW - A subsequent analysis and update raises the Grand Canyon-like gap between the options way up, closer to 100 to 1. Regards!​

 
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Saw an economics article that included things like gifting t-shirts into poor areas in Africa and other benevolent gifts.

The anslysis said it would be far better to help local people and local companies get strong and established. While gifts sounded good on the surface, taking away that market demand held down much needed jobs and employment, by undercutting local businesses and denying the local governments the much needed tax revenue.

A very different twist told from the point of view of the areas where economic growth, jobs and taxes were desperately needed. The "free stuff" also had a downside. Gifting means of production and supplying affordable business and personal loans would be more helpful for some areas of their economies.

More of a teach a person to fish pov, vs giving s person fish for 3 days. That sort of thing.

Your mileage may vary. Certainly benevolence also has a place, with people helping people.

Of corse the article was much more specific and effective in making their points and in giving examples to support their points of view. .
I've learned this the hard way - that is, charitable giving, if we want it to be effective, has to be done very carefully/strategically. Couple quick examples:
A guy begging for $ outside a mini-mart. I went in, bought him a sandwich. If you're begging for money food must be a priority, right? Handing it too him, he laughed and reluctantly took it.
Charities - check their efficiency rating on websites like www.charitynavigator.org and you'll find some big name outfits that are mostly job creators for the executives running them. For instance, how much of your Susan G. Komen dollar actually makes it to YOUR intended destination?
Anyhow...gotta know where the money is going.
 
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