Intermat recruiting rankings
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Most of the info is premium. Can you do a solid and list where our guys ended up in their PfP rankings? Might help understand the team #5 ranking.
Spencer Lee, if healthy, is enough to give Iowa the #1 ranking. He is instantly a title contender. Still see that as a miss for the guys in blue. And Warner gives them much needed power in the upper weights. Their best haul in years.
Not ever worried about Cael's recruiting. This just puts more pressure on Brands to produce.
That said, our class next year will be #1 by a country mile if it holds.
That said, our class next year will be #1 by a country mile if it holds.
Not an Intermat subscriber so these 2017 Class rankings may not be fully updated, but here's their preseason rankings (with current team rankings):
1 Iowa:
1 Spencer Lee
8 Jacob Warner
29 Max Murin
44 Luke Troy
2 Cornell
2 Yianni Diakomihalis
3 Vitali Arujau
79 Jake Brindley
3 Meatchicken
19 Layne Van Anrooy
25 Jelani Embree
27 Ben Freeman
61 Andrew Davison
63 Drew Mattin
4 VT
35 Hunter Bolen
50 Mekhi Lewis
77 Cole Manley
5 PSU
5 Nick Lee
9 Brady Berge
24 Jarod Verkleeren
1 Iowa:
1 Spencer Lee
8 Jacob Warner
29 Max Murin
44 Luke Troy
2 Cornell
2 Yianni Diakomihalis
3 Vitali Arujau
79 Jake Brindley
3 Meatchicken
19 Layne Van Anrooy
25 Jelani Embree
27 Ben Freeman
61 Andrew Davison
63 Drew Mattin
4 VT
35 Hunter Bolen
50 Mekhi Lewis
77 Cole Manley
5 PSU
5 Nick Lee
9 Brady Berge
24 Jarod Verkleeren
Cornell should be #1 in every ranking. Yianni and Vito are as good as any prospects in the country - yes, including Spencer, and I've been saying that for a couple years now, before going to Iowa, before injuries - and BOTH their heavyweight recruits are guys I would take before the guy they are giving Iowa solid credit for (Costello). Hands down.
Luke Troy is no longer a member of the Iowa recruiting class.
PSU will get marked down by analysts because of worrying where these kids are going to make an impact in a star-studded lineup. Makes absolutely NO sense. Talent wise, I would stack Lee, Berge, Manville, Verkleeren, against any class for volume of talent.
Luke Troy is no longer a member of the Iowa recruiting class.
PSU will get marked down by analysts because of worrying where these kids are going to make an impact in a star-studded lineup. Makes absolutely NO sense. Talent wise, I would stack Lee, Berge, Manville, Verkleeren, against any class for volume of talent.
Next year's class should be "WOW" level, but based on past rankings they might be ranked 3, 4 or 5 since everybody may not be immediate starters.
Shouldn't Manville technically be part of this class.
I'd rank Penn State #3, behind Iowa and Cornell. Nick Lee, Berge and Verkeeren are good recruits that fit well into future lineups at Penn State.
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TOM ranked them exactly as they should be:
1) Cornell
2) Iowa
3) PSU
without Manville. Cornell and Iowa are close, but I would definitely give Cornell the edge based on far superior recruiting beyond the top 3 (which is a wash), and if you include Manville in PSU's haul you could make an argument for PSU.
Trying to be objective here, given my association with TOM, but Alex Steen's analysis is better IMO. The guy has really become a go-to guy in the wrestling world for analysis.
1) Cornell
2) Iowa
3) PSU
without Manville. Cornell and Iowa are close, but I would definitely give Cornell the edge based on far superior recruiting beyond the top 3 (which is a wash), and if you include Manville in PSU's haul you could make an argument for PSU.
Trying to be objective here, given my association with TOM, but Alex Steen's analysis is better IMO. The guy has really become a go-to guy in the wrestling world for analysis.
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Forum discussion material, for sure...though it's unimportant if the class is first or twenty-first. Never know till the guys hit the mats. I believe this is a solid class, time will tell.
No. 5 Nick Lee (Evansville Mater Dei, Ind./NLWC), No. 8 Brady Berge (Kasson-Mantorville, Minn.), and No. 16 Jarod Verkleeren (Hempfield Area, Pa.)
No, Manville taking a year off didn't change his high school class. Anyway, it will be interesting to see next year's ranking of perhaps what will be the best recruiting class ever (for anyone).
Ranking that VT class ahead of PSUs is pure trolling, IMO.
Intermat lost their ranking creds for me last season when they stubbornly ranked osu ahead of PSU all season until they had no choice. Without the head-2-head result, Intermat would have ranked osu #1 heading into St. Louis! Don't the same staff that rank recruits also rank teams?
Meat chicken is Cassar's nickname.
This is the truth. So we should all recognize the click bait effort for 3-4-5 and shrug it off.
The team rankings absolutely do not matter one bit. I do put stock in the individual rankings, because the kids don't wrestle in a bubble anymore. Sure you have some outliers that are barely ranked and have great college careers, but for the most part the individual rankings capture the talent. As stated, all five PSU Champs were ranked in the top 10 pound for pound. Of course, some top 10 kids do not ever become champions, and certainly kids ranked outside the top 10 become champions. But there is a strong correlation.
At the very least it is fun to discuss and debate until they actually hit the mats.
I don't think that's the case (that the same staff that ranks recruits ranks college teams). I believe Josh Lowe ranks the recruits. I'm not sure who ranks the college wrestlers and teams, but I don't believe Josh Lowe is involved in those rankings.
Not to mention the addition of Stroker to Cornell's class. That pretty much puts them at #1 in any list.
Just joking.
Actually, Meatchicken is (University of) Michigan, presumably because if you sing "Michigan" by the Donzerly Light, it would sound like "Meatchicken". I said "Cassar's nickname" as a joke because every time Cassar's alleged nickname is mentioned, someone asks who are we talking about, as is the case whenever "Meatchicken" is mentioned.
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Thanks butJust joking.
Actually, Meatchicken is (University of) Michigan, presumably because if you sing "Michigan" by the Donzerly Light, it would sound like "Meatchicken". I said "Cassar's nickname" as a joke because everytime Cassar's alleged nickname is mentioned, someone asks who are we talking about, as is the case whenever "Meatchicken" is mentioned.
I don't think I can let anyone know that I am a member of a group of grown men that call Michigan meat chicken this is just going to have to be our little secret. What is Cassar's nickname?
Listen to the ESPN Gameday crew, especially Chris Fowler, say Meeeeeeeeee-sheeee-gan just once, and it'll be clear.
Cassar's nickname is "SuperCoolBatmanWrestler". That sounds very grown-up, I think. But I may have just made it up.
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Fixed it for you.Geez, #5? Willie better step it up on the recruiting trail.
Next year:
#2 Teasdale
#3 Whitlake
#4 RBY
#10 Nevills
Hopefully we can get Beard so that we can pass up VT for the #4 recruiting class. 《Sarcasm font》
#2 Teasdale
#3 Whitlake
#4 RBY
#10 Nevills
Hopefully we can get Beard so that we can pass up VT for the #4 recruiting class. 《Sarcasm font》
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Speaking of which, do any of you know how to turn off autocorrect on an android phone? It's is huge pet peeve of mine. If I wanted to spell that word, I would have typed it that way.
If I ever handled recruiting rankings, I'd probably use something like "estimated tournament points" based on the all-class rankings...20 for the top 3, 16 for the next three, 13.5 for the three after that, etc...basically, equating to being a 2x (give or take, given that some are going to inevitably fall by the wayside) placer at that spot...obviously won't be 100% accurate, but it's really a pretty good rough guess.
Now, if the team-component thing ever comes about (and there was another mention in the NCAA Wrestling Committee annual report mentioning it, from their meeting last month), that'll have to be recalibrated.
Now, if the team-component thing ever comes about (and there was another mention in the NCAA Wrestling Committee annual report mentioning it, from their meeting last month), that'll have to be recalibrated.
From a projected points at the Nationals standpoint who is supposed to score more than Daton Fix? Ok st number 11?
Ranking Flo's rankings (using their numbers listed) via tournament points as listed above (note: only teams with at least one wrestler in top 24, ie. All-American range, are listed):
1. Penn State, 38.5
2. Cornell, 38
3. Iowa, 35
4. Oklahoma State, 30
5. Ohio State, 23.5
6. Nebraska, 18.5
7. Oklahoma, 18
8. North Carolina, 14
9. Binghamton, 13.5
10t. Iowa State, 12.5
10t. Navy, 12.5
10t. Virginia Tech, 12.5
13. Virginia, 12
14. Drexel, 9
15. Wisconsin, 6.5
16. Michigan, 6
1. Penn State, 38.5
2. Cornell, 38
3. Iowa, 35
4. Oklahoma State, 30
5. Ohio State, 23.5
6. Nebraska, 18.5
7. Oklahoma, 18
8. North Carolina, 14
9. Binghamton, 13.5
10t. Iowa State, 12.5
10t. Navy, 12.5
10t. Virginia Tech, 12.5
13. Virginia, 12
14. Drexel, 9
15. Wisconsin, 6.5
16. Michigan, 6
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