Carter was recruited by the guy with the eye, the rest is irrelevant.was this why he was criminally under recruited?
Carter was recruited by the guy with the eye, the rest is irrelevant.was this why he was criminally under recruited?
Well put 🤦♂️Carter is ultra confident, you might even say cocky, AND he has backed it up by winning TWO National Championships and he’s not done yet.
Gilman was an arrogant punk who disrespected his opponents and the sport AND he failed to back it up as a ZERO time National Champion.
BIG difference. Apples and Oranges, in fact.
I can understand someone not liking college Gilman. I enjoyed his antics as a fan--even while I hope I'm raising my boys to act differently. I never rooted for him against PSU of course, but I thought TG brought some color to a pretty vanilla flavor you typically get in the sport. But I get it--it's not for everyone.Carter is ultra confident, you might even say cocky, AND he has backed it up by winning TWO National Championships and he’s not done yet.
Gilman was an arrogant punk who disrespected his opponents and the sport AND he failed to back it up as a ZERO time National Champion.
BIG difference. Apples and Oranges, in fact.
I never liked him in college for numerous reasons I won’t reiterate now, as I’ve listed them multiple times. As for now, I don’t think he’s displayed any monumental leaps in maturity that would make me change my mind. Just because he’s in the NLWC, isn’t reason enough to change my opinion. Of course, you’re welcome to yours as well.I can understand someone not liking college Gilman. I enjoyed his antics as a fan--even while I hope I'm raising my boys to act differently. I never rooted for him against PSU of course, but I thought TG brought some color to a pretty vanilla flavor you typically get in the sport. But I get it--it's not for everyone.
What I can't quite wrap my head around is you continuing to dislike him. He's (relatively) humble, reflective, grateful, erudite, and downright deep these days. And now he seems able to achieve the type of winning at the highest level that he was indeed incapable of in college. What's your beef? Or is it just that his prior tough guy act was just too much for you, and he's irredeemable? Seems harsh, but maybe you were a bona-fide choir-boy in college. I know I wasn't.
If you ask me, the whole “my opinion, your opinion” schtick is kind of a conversation killer, but I’m sure Thomas cares quite a bit less about both of our opinions than either of us do, lol.I never liked him in college for numerous reasons I won’t reiterate now, as I’ve listed them multiple times. As for now, I don’t think he’s displayed any monumental leaps in maturity that would make me change my mind. Just because he’s in the NLWC, isn’t reason enough to change my opinion. Of course, you’re welcome to yours as well.
Well, you're entitled to that opinion as well.If you ask me, the whole “my opinion, your opinion” schtick is kind of a conversation killer
It’s not worth relitigating the many reasons I’ve already mentioned. I will just note that your calling Gilman “erudite” is most certainly a bridge too far for me.If you ask me, the whole “my opinion, your opinion” schtick is kind of a conversation killer, but I’m sure Thomas cares quite a bit less about both of our opinions than either of us do, lol.
Ahhhhh, all these opinions of yours must’ve been in that one thread I avoided like the plague the last few years. No need to go there now, I’ll agree with you there.It’s not worth relitigating the many reasons I’ve already mentioned. I will just note that your calling Gilman “erudite” is most certainly a bridge too far for me.
To a degree, yes.was this why he was criminally under recruited?
but wasn't cael relatively late to the party? i think i remember willie talking about how he didn't get the lack of attention and it seemed like minnesota was the leader.Carter was recruited by the guy with the eye, the rest is irrelevant.
Yes, could be, I really dont give 2 shits, he’s here and he’s great.but wasn't cael relatively late to the party? i think i remember willie talking about how he didn't get the lack of attention and it seemed like minnesota was the leader.
A late Cael is better than an early any other coach.but wasn't cael relatively late to the party? i think i remember willie talking about how he didn't get the lack of attention and it seemed like minnesota was the leader.
Cael is known to recruit late, but that wasn't the case with Carter.but wasn't cael relatively late to the party? i think i remember willie talking about how he didn't get the lack of attention and it seemed like minnesota was the leader.
Virginia Tech was if any. IIRC, Carter gave the coaches (Robie, Frayer) some extra love after his match with Mekhi this year.but wasn't cael relatively late to the party? i think i remember willie talking about how he didn't get the lack of attention and it seemed like minnesota was the leader.
Robie is also from Erie and knew all the right people during Carter's recruitment.Virginia Tech was if any. IIRC, Carter gave the coaches (Robie, Frayer) some extra love after his match with Mekhi this year.
Watching and listening to Carter over the years I am pretty certain when I say the following:I realize it’s very presumptuous to say this, but if Carter gets 4 straight titles, and passes on a chance for Number 5….not going to lie, I’ll be bummed 🙁
Winning five might only be trumped by the fact that he PASSED on the opportunity.Watching and listening to Carter over the years I am pretty certain when I say the following:
1. He is quite grateful to his father and coaches for getting him to where he is.
2. He is extremely confident in himself because of those contributions and his own work ethic.
3. He doesn't give a rat's ass about whether you or I are "bummed" by his decisions. He has a plan. It might change in the future. But his decisions will not be affected in the least by our wishes. He is a unique character. Enjoy the ride.....however long it lasts.
I realize it’s very presumptuous to say this, but if Carter gets 4 straight titles, and passes on a chance for Number 5….not going to lie, I’ll be bummed 🙁
Did he know only the right people or did he know @82bordeaux too?Robie is also from Erie and knew all the right people during Carter's recruitment.