Your argument seems to be that because we cannot afford to fire him, that we should just stop criticizing him because it only hurts recruiting.
Is Penn St leadership regretting the silly Franklin contract?
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I suppose your “if/then” has merit.
I don’t know if afford to fire is quite the best term. I only mean it’s somewhat prohibitive to make that kind of move. OTOH someone would have to pay for that, and I pretty sure we all know there is an increase in our donation and tickets just to help the cost of the new contract in the first place. This was simply a brutal contract against performance.
It’s known as the Peter Principle, as coined by Edward Lazear, in which the tendency in most organizational hierarchies - such as that of a corporation - is for every employee to rise in the hierarchy through promotion until they reach a level of respective incompetence. Google it. It’s a really interesting concept.
I'm well acquainted with that principle.
If only we were suffering from that principle, rather than the insane PC that we are suffering from.
In the old corporate system, where people did occasionally rise above their level of competence, this is a thousand times worse.
Here, in the PC system, no one is even trying to hire and promote the best. Any idiot will do...and that's what we've gotten.
Totally this!!!! The IDIOTS running the university had to purge all things Paterno from Penn State. Now you see the result.
The people making all the big decisions all have no previous association with the university are destroying our school.
Well congratulations dumb asses, you got rid of all things Paterno, and in the process you destroyed Penn State and all the good things it stood for.
This is so true. I know several people that work in non-sports Departments within the University, the level of wasted dollars is incredible. Secondly, hiring qualifications do not matter, the only thing that counts is filling the diversity quota.
They don’t because they are woke and only worried about protecting their federal research dollars so they will do anything to appease what DC wants. They seek diversity and inclusion. They are checking the boxes on almost all recent hires and will continue to do so. Wait till a new AD arrives and I can pretty much tell you what their profile will be. They also know that the Beav will always be filled so why does it matter. One of these days/seasons we fans will get wise and stay in the parking lots until Q2 or later to voice our displeasure. Nothing more embarrassing than an empty stadium when the tv turns on!
He's already had 2 years. 11-11.
If he produces another 7-6 he needs to go. Period. No that does not make us Nebraska. Nebraska fired Solich after a 4 loss season and Callahan after a 5 loss season. Franklin's last 2 years have been worse and Penn State can go 6-6 with anyone.
Start by boycotting the B/W game in April which Franklin has now turned into a bloody open practice. It used to be a fun weekend with a spring football game. Not anymore. Make them hold it in Memorial Field in Dwntwn SC if they want to continue with that product.
"Filling the diversity quota".
I'm sure the student body wants to be identified with this.
I offered one and its the same solution if you don't like a certain company, BDS the company to the ground. Im prepared to do this, a lot of us do this in our lives all the time. If enough people stop coming to games, stop watching on TV, stop buying merchandise, the program or Franklin will have to make a change. Its called apathy and Franklin is working very hard on it. His "107k" mantra is going to look pathetic when there are 50k in the stands. He'll get the message at the point, or the Board, they will see that and feel that in their pocketbooks even through their shrouds of incompetence. Franklin ain't dumb, he and Fumi will escape that Hell to some mid level pac 12 school, trust me.
Spot on…add to that Sandy is a proven failure at Cal. But she checks boxes and this is the result.
I call bullshit on that. A man of character would have apologized for a miserable performance in 2020, not manipulated all season long to get more money. He shows no loyalty to Penn State. Why should his players? If you are always looking for a better deal, you can't give your best. Jim Harbaugh is showing much greater character at this moment.
Totally agree. And it’s hard to admit that Hairball shows greater Character than Big Play James.
No, they are good with it. Here’s the fact, as long as they have a “competitive” team with decent academic standing, they do not care. They get big money from the conference just for showing up. And they get to virtue signal, which is important to the academia types. The only leverage fans have is the season tickets and buying apparel (which most will keep doing), so the financial bottom line will hold. For next decade, PSU will be a 8-10 win team and every few years look like they have a real shot. Mark Richt at Georgia. Penn State is now football purgatory, neither hot nor cold.
The Lettermen are - by and large - already of the opinion that they have “seen enough.”
Can’t disagree with any of this…Paterno made the University (not just football)…and these incompetent Benedict Arnolds are destroying it…slowly but steadily.
8-10 wins per year and Mark Richt-level performance? Take that in a heartbeat.
This program is taking on water…
And the bilge warning is blaring!
The team has to find some meanness / nastiness without the thugness. Bury the guy across from you and then help him up and do it again. Until we find some football attitude on the OL, only the best RBs (Barkley, Sanders, Journey) will cover for the weakness.
BINGO. But they wouldn’t know what to do with themselves if they couldn’t come on here and whine and complain.
Some people aren’t happy unless they have something to bitch about. It isn’t logical, but it is true.
Is Brandon Short a letterman? Listen to his interview sometime about the new Franklin contract But hey he sure as heck isn’t as knowledgeable about football as the experts on this board right?
I agree with that. It also would help if we found a few RBs who showed a little burst through the holes that are there instead of all of them looking like they are running in mud. Thought the new kid played decent at left tackle yesterday.
Franklin's Achilles is his artificially inflated ego.....he has difficulty facing external criticism, legitimate or otherwise. When enough of the PSU fan base, and more importantly the Media, turn on James, he will gladly have his agent negotiate a lower $$$ exit package and try to save face with some lame, Urban Meyer-like excuse of "coaching burn out" or blaming unrealistic expectations by the JoePa admirers.
I say after the 2023 season, which is going to be every bit as formidable of a challenge as 2022.
But Sandy already set the bar when she increased his salary based on his record during 2016-19 saying it was one of the best 4 yr record in 30-40 yrs....
The difference is Urban had a national championship and could reenter coaching wherever he wanted for even more money. If there are two more bad years he won’t get a contract like the one he has.
I don’t think it’ll be as bad as the losing seasons from 2000-2004, but it sure is starting to feel that way. When the players and coaches continue to make unrealistic positive comments about their performance or lack thereof, then this is evidence that the players and coaches don’t know what the problem(s) are.
So how does it end? Franklin controls his compensatory purse strings.
Only public (ahem Media) humiliation will be effective with this carnival barking charlatan.
