It almost happened again...

[BrucePa]

You know those games where the team has a 4th quarter lead, and then gets shredded by a mediocre quarterback who can't miss a receiver in the 4th quarter to pull off a win? It almost happened again yesterday.

Luwerke, Barrett, Darnold, Zac Thomas (Appalachian State).....Penn State escaped yesterday by the skin of its teeth. But it hasn't solved the problem of getting jumped at the end of the game, or finishing an opponent.

 

[PSUriseANDfire]

Zac Thomas will be a top ten pick next year.

 

[BrucePa]

And Shea Patterson hit his receiver with a game-tying TD right in the gut yesterday....

 

[Madsol]

You know those games where the team has a 4th quarter lead, and then gets shredded by a mediocre quarterback who can't miss a receiver in the 4th quarter to pull off a win? It almost happened again yesterday.

Luwerke, Barrett, Darnold, Zac Thomas (Appalachian State).....Penn State escaped yesterday by the skin of its teeth. But it hasn't solved the problem of getting jumped at the end of the game, or finishing an opponent.

They finished the last two games by getting a first down and running out the clock.

 

[Lion Lineage]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pe...answers-the-bell-and-more.html?outputType=amp

This is a problem with our offensive coaching. Make no mistake about it, Dantonio knows this and next week is looking like our first loss. He’ll exploit that inability of our offense all game long. I think this is the third opponent this year where the team couldn’t adjust to twists on the D-line. I believe they had the same problem against Pitt and in the second half against Purdue.

 

[grad83psu]

You know those games where the team has a 4th quarter lead, and then gets shredded by a mediocre quarterback who can't miss a receiver in the 4th quarter to pull off a win? It almost happened again yesterday.

Luwerke, Barrett, Darnold, Zac Thomas (Appalachian State).....Penn State escaped yesterday by the skin of its teeth. But it hasn't solved the problem of getting jumped at the end of the game, or finishing an opponent.

And you were cheering for it to happen for the entire game!!! Sorry that you were disappointed NOT!!!

 

[NittanyIllinois]

Good Lord.

Thanks for the observation.

 

[mean15]

So we won the first half, and lost the second, and the sky is falling.

If the halves were reversed, we'd be ecstatic.

 

[LoyalandTrueLion]

You know those games where the team has a 4th quarter lead, and then gets shredded by a mediocre quarterback who can't miss a receiver in the 4th quarter to pull off a win? It almost happened again yesterday.

Luwerke, Barrett, Darnold, Zac Thomas (Appalachian State).....Penn State escaped yesterday by the skin of its teeth. But it hasn't solved the problem of getting jumped at the end of the game, or finishing an opponent.

Almost only counts in horse shoes hand grenades and nuclear bombs.

I'm the most negative person on the board. The team and defense took punches. When the chips were down the stood up against a quality opponent. In the past that hasn't happened. They ran out the clock.

By definition they closed. Very simple. Was it pretty? No. Did i have flashbacks? Yes.

7-0

 

[PSUQBKeeper]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2019/10/penn-state-michigan-takeaways-what-happened-on-offense-after-halftime-lions-defense-answers-the-bell-and-more.html?outputType=amp

This is a problem with our offensive coaching. Make no mistake about it, Dantonio knows this and next week is looking like our first loss. He’ll exploit that inability of our offense all game long. I think this is the third opponent this year where the team couldn’t adjust to twists on the D-line. I believe they had the same problem against Pitt and in the second half against Purdue.

yeah.....once again we didn't learn anything about our team......just wait until NEXT week.....yeah.....that's the ticket....

 

[acdc3]

You know those games where the team has a 4th quarter lead, and then gets shredded by a mediocre quarterback who can't miss a receiver in the 4th quarter to pull off a win? It almost happened again yesterday.

Luwerke, Barrett, Darnold, Zac Thomas (Appalachian State).....Penn State escaped yesterday by the skin of its teeth. But it hasn't solved the problem of getting jumped at the end of the game, or finishing an opponent.

Vs the old days when we trailed start to finish and had no speed.

 

[AWS1022]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2019/10/penn-state-michigan-takeaways-what-happened-on-offense-after-halftime-lions-defense-answers-the-bell-and-more.html?outputType=amp

This is a problem with our offensive coaching. Make no mistake about it, Dantonio knows this and next week is looking like our first loss. He’ll exploit that inability of our offense all game long. I think this is the third opponent this year where the team couldn’t adjust to twists on the D-line. I believe they had the same problem against Pitt and in the second half against Purdue.

You’re right, we suck...I hate being 2-5..,.maybe next year will be better.

 

[Lion Lineage]

yeah.....once again we didn't learn anything about our team......just wait until NEXT week.....yeah.....that's the ticket....

We learned a lot about the O. They were shut down AGAIN in the second half. 80 some yards with the bulk coming on one play. Rahne can’t adjust in game once the D adjusts to how he’s attacking them. Look what Gattis did. We were blitzing and so he starts getting the ball out in the flats with passes that took a little over a second before the QB threw it - negating our pressure . What did we do. We had Clifford sit in the pocket waiting for these long passing routes to develop. Meanwhile the O-line is perplexed by the D-line doing stuff all D-lines do. All is well.

Look, I’m glad we won. But what Purdue and Michigan were able to do to our O in the second half is troubling. I’m not happy outlasting a team we should have killed. That should have been a Michigan beat down. And there is no way MSU should be able or beat us...on talent alone we should win going away. But it won’t happen. Either we’ll lose or it will be another squeaker.

 

[LionsandBear]

We just scored 28 on a very good D which was playing with it's season on the line. The result was our 2nd straight Top 20 win. Enjoy the win and trust the coaches. They have gotten us to 7-0.

 

[fastlax16]

The team won. They had the ball on offense with the opportunity to win the game with first downs two weeks in a row against ranked teams and succeeded both times. Thats progress over years past where it seemed like the offense gave the ball back every time they faced this scenario.

 

[bdgan]

You know those games where the team has a 4th quarter lead, and then gets shredded by a mediocre quarterback who can't miss a receiver in the 4th quarter to pull off a win? It almost happened again yesterday.

Luwerke, Barrett, Darnold, Zac Thomas (Appalachian State).....Penn State escaped yesterday by the skin of its teeth. But it hasn't solved the problem of getting jumped at the end of the game, or finishing an opponent.

It seemd to me that UM adjusted to PSU's blitzing scheme but that PSU didn't adjust to UM's adjustments.

 

[19333lion]

Winning a close game is one thing, but squandering a large lead is something we have seen before. Finishing off an opponent is something great teams can do. This team is good. Glad we're 7-0 but there are issues that have to be corrected before the team can be considered great.

 

[fairfaxlion2]

I agree but One big difference is that we could not convert 3rd downs in the last few years. This team can.

 

[GreggK]

But it didn't.

 

[bdgan]

We learned a lot about the O. They were shut down AGAIN in the second half. 80 some yards with the bulk coming on one play. Rahne can’t adjust in game once the D adjusts to how he’s attacking them. Look what Gattis did. We were blitzing and so he starts getting the ball out in the flats with passes that took a little over a second before the QB threw it - negating our pressure . What did we do. We had Clifford sit in the pocket waiting for these long passing routes to develop. Meanwhile the O-line is perplexed by the D-line doing stuff all D-lines do. All is well.

Look, I’m glad we won. But what Purdue and Michigan were able to do to our O in the second half is troubling. I’m not happy outlasting a team we should have killed. That should have been a Michigan beat down. And there is no way MSU should be able or beat us...on talent alone we should win going away. But it won’t happen. Either we’ll lose or it will be another squeaker.

Franklin says that we had to make explosive plays because UM took away everything else. I'm sure UM also attacked the LOS vs Wisconsin but to no avail. I think part of the issue is we don't have an exceptionally strong OL or RBs. The other part is just the staff's style. They go for explosive plays on both offense and defense. It's just what they do.

 

[cntblvitsbutter]

Winning a close game is one thing, but squandering a large lead is something we have seen before. Finishing off an opponent is something great teams can do. This team is good. Glad we're 7-0 but there are issues that have to be corrected before the team can be considered great.

Yeah, same problem... we give up huge chunks of yardage in the middle of the field, but shy away from trying the same. If you were Flemiing and you saw the game yesterday, would you think you'd be used to the best of your abilities at Penn State?

 

[lionpride90]

I am happy we are 7-0. I am concerned that we have not played well on offense for long stretches. I am concerned that it will catch up to us. Rahne does not call a good game and we have no offensive identity. We refuse to let a running back get into a rhythm. We have no clear intermediate pass package. We run the RPO into the teeth of the defense most times. I'm thankful but concerned. If OH state wasn't on the schedule, I'd be a lot less concerned.

 

[Ceasar]

There is a segment of the PSU fan base which spent the entire off season lamenting the fact that we can't beat Michigan. Now that we beat Michigan the refrain seems to be "yes, but not impressively enough".

 

[fairfaxlion2]

I am happy we are 7-0. I am concerned that we have not played well on offense for long stretches. I am concerned that it will catch up to us. Rahne does not call a good game and we have no offensive identity. We refuse to let a running back get into a rhythm. We have no clear intermediate pass package. We run the RPO into the teeth of the defense most times. I'm thankful but concerned. If OH state wasn't on the schedule, I'd be a lot less concerned.

If Clifford hadn’t missed a wide open TE we probably have 31 or 35 yesterday.

 

[CJLion]

If darnold is average, there are a ton of sub average qbs.

 

[AWS1022]

That should have been a Michigan beat down.

Based on what? Certainly not recruiting rankings. Because we started off strong? That happens often and ends up a close game. Mainly it’s because you think so.

 

[Nittany_93]

Franklin says that we had to make explosive plays because UM took away everything else. I'm sure UM also attacked the LOS vs Wisconsin but to no avail. I think part of the issue is we don't have an exceptionally strong OL or RBs. The other part is just the staff's style. They go for explosive plays on both offense and defense. It's just what they do.

It's kind of ironic in that the arm chair consensus after getting the lead was "step on their throats". Well they tried, and failed. Now the chorus is "where was the 4 minute offense/running game"?
There's plenty to improve upon, but you can't have it both ways.

 

[harjeff]

....but it didn't!

for all the complaining on here look around the country. College football is tough week in and week out with nearly anyone being able to pull an upset and its very tough to play tough games back to back. PSU just went on the road and won a tough ball game in a VERY tough environment and then backed it u with another win over a top 20 team with a very good defense.

Would you rather be Wisconsin who crushed Michigan and then loses to freakin Illinois

Would you rather be Texas just barely squeaking by Kansas on a last second FG.

How about South Carolina knocking off Georgia at Georgia!

Heck even the juggernaut of Clemson had to survive a scare at North Carolina

I could go on and on....but just be happy the team is finding a way to win and has some very fun to watch and extremely good football players.

 

[Ranger Dan]

You know those games where the team has a 4th quarter lead, and then gets shredded by a mediocre quarterback who can't miss a receiver in the 4th quarter to pull off a win? It almost happened again yesterday.

Luwerke, Barrett, Darnold, Zac Thomas (Appalachian State).....Penn State escaped yesterday by the skin of its teeth. But it hasn't solved the problem of getting jumped at the end of the game, or finishing an opponent.

Those are all NFL quarterbacks, Darnold already starting for the Jets.

 

[psu00]

The biggest concern is the inability of the offense to play a complete game. They had 90 total yards in the second half and 53 of those came on 1 long TD throw. Other than that play the offense had 37 yards for 2nd half.

Second half possessions yesterday-

-4 plays, 12 yards, PUNT, (2:11)
-3 plays, 2 yards, PUNT, (1:00)
-3 plays, 3 yards, PUNT, (1:27)
-6 plays, 75 yards, TD, (2:51)
-3 plays, -3 yards, PUNT, (1:54)
-6 plays, 1 yard, END OF GAME, (2:01)

 

[wcg207]

You know those games where the team has a 4th quarter lead, and then gets shredded by a mediocre quarterback who can't miss a receiver in the 4th quarter to pull off a win? It almost happened again yesterday.

Luwerke, Barrett, Darnold, Zac Thomas (Appalachian State).....Penn State escaped yesterday by the skin of its teeth. But it hasn't solved the problem of getting jumped at the end of the game, or finishing an opponent.

Same coaches calling plays and you expect different results? We were out gained in the second half 230 to 80.

 

[blmr31]

Key stat from the game last night... Penn State-28 Michigan-21

 

[wcg207]

Key stat from the game last night... Penn State-28 Michigan-21

A monster effort by the coaching staff to reverse that stat falls short on a dropped pass in the end zone.

 

[bobroars]

A monster effort by the coaching staff to reverse that stat falls short on a dropped pass in the end zone.

If they scored and we went to OT, I thought we would lose. Patterson was scary good in the 2nd half

 

[OhioLion]

I think part of the issue is we don't have an exceptionally strong OL

Not since 1995.

OL

 

[BobPSU92]

F*ck us.

 

[Ughhh]

There are games where the "how" matters (cupcake games that are tuneups) and there are games that only "how many" matters. Whiteout is the latter.

 

[Bertway0]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2019/10/penn-state-michigan-takeaways-what-happened-on-offense-after-halftime-lions-defense-answers-the-bell-and-more.html?outputType=amp

This is a problem with our offensive coaching. Make no mistake about it, Dantonio knows this and next week is looking like our first loss. He’ll exploit that inability of our offense all game long. I think this is the third opponent this year where the team couldn’t adjust to twists on the D-line. I believe they had the same problem against Pitt and in the second half against Purdue.

I agree completely! I'd MUCH rather be a fan of MSu next week than of undefeated Penn State......

 

[djr4rebs]

Look what Gattis did. We were blitzing and so he starts getting the ball out in the flats with passes that took a little over a second before the QB threw it

They were throwing short the entire game. Gattis didn't adjust to anything. They kept plugging and it finally started working. I do believe that our defense did get tired, but the really deep rotation was huge.

Why is it we are penalized for getting hot for one half while Michigan is applauded for it? At the end, we were able to force a 4th down incompletion and run out the clock to end the game.

 

[fairgambit]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2019/10/penn-state-michigan-takeaways-what-happened-on-offense-after-halftime-lions-defense-answers-the-bell-and-more.html?outputType=amp

This is a problem with our offensive coaching. Make no mistake about it, Dantonio knows this and next week is looking like our first loss. He’ll exploit that inability of our offense all game long. I think this is the third opponent this year where the team couldn’t adjust to twists on the D-line. I believe they had the same problem against Pitt and in the second half against Purdue.