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Estimates range from 60% to 80%.So you’re saying every person in the US is going to get it?
Once again for millionth time and Doctor Birx addressed this yesterday this is the worst case scenario without doing anything to prevent it.Estimates range from 60% to 80%.
They range from 20-100 and they’re all guessesEstimates range from 60% to 80%.
Nobody is mentioning 12-15 months. How about we get over the initial hump and reevaluate with real data? Hopefully the summer slows it down and buys some time to find that vaccine. Could you imagine what it would be like right now without a shutdown?Without a vaccine we are in a worst case scenario. Do you think American can stay in lockdown for another 12-15 months? No! It’s going to continue to spread. America has taken a heard immunity response to the disease, not that we have a choice.
Drugs like Hrydrochloroquine are our best bet short term. Lessening symptoms is about the only thing we can hope for.
you guys are missing my point. It is only like looking from a fire tower if you are going to do nothing ANYWAY until it comes through the trees.
Are you this naive? US has passed China is total number of cases and we are at 93K now with nearly 8K last night.. Our death total will most likely be higher too in the long run, and even if you don't die there is proof that long term damage of your lungs and other organs happens. But keep thinking this is nothing, and hoping warm weather will kill it.
From my reporter contact in Harrisburg, Pa.:
"According to the National Institutes of Health. It also likely didn't originate at a market in Wuhan."
Elaborate please!!
No, we don’t miss your point. It is just backwards thinking because you NEVER do nothing with that information. The action you do from the positive test is to quarantine that person SOONER rather than later. It is about making better decisions based on knowledge than to fly blind.
Your point to quarantine anyway without testing is okay IF everyone can do that but not everyone has that option. A person in a nursing home doesn’t have that option, the ER doctor/nurse doesn’t have that option, the military personnel doesn’t have that option, the truck drivers delivering your food or gas don’t have that option, the grocers and supply chain supporting them don’t have that option, the telecom/energy workers don’t have that option, the paper mill worker, sanitation worker, public water works employee, prisoner guard, prisoner, the pregnant lady delivering her child, the person needing dialysis, the farm workers, the firefighter, the pharmacist, the researcher working on a vaccine, the pharmaceutical worker making your medications, the cop, the undertaker, the postman/FedEx worker, the EMT, the caretakers of the youth & elderly, and on and on...and by extension all of the people that they live with. Individually those people can quarantine if sick, but collectively then cannot do so at the same time. You may have the luxury to stay holed up for a couple weeks or even months but the reality is that a broad quarantine is neither feasible or productive.
Within our lifetime, the HIV/AIDS epidemic is a good example of why testing is important despite the fact that it didn’t initially change the prognosis. It allowed people to take extra precautions when they knew they had the disease to prevent their loved ones and children from getting the death sentence they had. It allowed organizations to safely screen blood for transfusions. It put a light on the problem to keep it in peoples mind. And it gave a measure of peace and comfort to those that worried they had it but ended up not. Those things didn’t cure it but they made it better.
The test isn’t the solution or the cure but it surely is part of the solution or cure. I’m not saying that when limited the test should be given freely as obviously you prioritize to the highest risk but when it is limited then you work to get more tests as soon as reasonably possible so you can use it broadly.
Interesting because i had a conversation early in March before the shit hit the fan with a guy who told me a story that I just assumed was some tinfoil hat explanation.I cannot at this time.
Honest to God I cannot.
No needNope you were not the one I was referring to. I can link that thread where that poster said he would if you want.
Well said.No, we don’t miss your point. It is just backwards thinking because you NEVER do nothing with that information. The action you do from the positive test is to quarantine that person SOONER rather than later. It is about making better decisions based on knowledge than to fly blind.
Your point to quarantine anyway without testing is okay IF everyone can do that but not everyone has that option. A person in a nursing home doesn’t have that option, the ER doctor/nurse doesn’t have that option, the military personnel doesn’t have that option, the truck drivers delivering your food or gas don’t have that option, the grocers and supply chain supporting them don’t have that option, the telecom/energy workers don’t have that option, the paper mill worker, sanitation worker, public water works employee, prisoner guard, prisoner, the pregnant lady delivering her child, the person needing dialysis, the farm workers, the firefighter, the pharmacist, the researcher working on a vaccine, the pharmaceutical worker making your medications, the cop, the undertaker, the postman/FedEx worker, the EMT, the caretakers of the youth & elderly, and on and on...and by extension all of the people that they live with. Individually those people can quarantine if sick, but collectively then cannot do so at the same time. You may have the luxury to stay holed up for a couple weeks or even months but the reality is that a broad quarantine is neither feasible or productive.
Within our lifetime, the HIV/AIDS epidemic is a good example of why testing is important despite the fact that it didn’t initially change the prognosis. It allowed people to take extra precautions when they knew they had the disease to prevent their loved ones and children from getting the death sentence they had. It allowed organizations to safely screen blood for transfusions. It put a light on the problem to keep it in peoples mind. And it gave a measure of peace and comfort to those that worried they had it but ended up not. Those things didn’t cure it but they made it better.
The test isn’t the solution or the cure but it surely is part of the solution or cure. I’m not saying that when limited the test should be given freely as obviously you prioritize to the highest risk but when it is limited then you work to get more tests as soon as reasonably possible so you can use it broadly.
Without a vaccine we are in a worst case scenario. Do you think American can stay in lockdown for another 12-15 months? No! It’s going to continue to spread. America has taken a heard immunity response to the disease, not that we have a choice.
Drugs like Hrydrochloroquine are our best bet short term. Lessening symptoms is about the only thing we can hope for.
ok, i disagree but understand. I happen to believe that all of the essential workers can readily get tested now. Answer this question how often should essential workers who are out and about get tested?
You and i have a different view on how important quarantining is to slow down the spread. Yes it is hard, yes it is a pain but until we build immunities, mfind some treatments or it dies from heat stroke it is only chance.
Your HIV/AIDs testing epidemic is a very poor example for many reasons.
Just from doctors and patients. No official study.I hope not since there's no real evidence that it works.
Anecdotal reports .Just from doctors and patients. No official study.
Saw on the news tonight where an ER doctor in NYC took it as a prophylaxis and has treated numerous people and has not contracted it. Sounds like he is not the only one.Oops; another study comes in.
Don't they know this is not proven yet?
HUGE! Second French Study by Dr. Raoult finds Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin Helped EVERY PATIENT in Study Group of 80 Minus One
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/huge-second-french-study-by-dr-raoult-finds-hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-helped-every-patient-in-study-group-of-80-minus-one-video/
Estimates say around 50%, and many of us will not even realize we are infected. Unfortunately, those with preexisting compromised respiratory or cardiac factors will know they are infected and will be dramatically impacted.Once again for millionth time and Doctor Birx addressed this yesterday this is the worst case scenario without doing anything to prevent it.
I have seen that something like 25 out of the first 40 patients in Wuhan were connected with the market. So far, that seems like good evidence to me.From my reporter contact in Harrisburg, Pa.:
"According to the National Institutes of Health. It also likely didn't originate at a market in Wuhan."
I have seen that something like 25 out of the first 40 patients in Wuhan were connected with the market. So far, that seems like good evidence to me.
Can we at least agree China's numbers aren't worth a shit. Show me the expert that says you can have almost a straight line increase in infections and deaths and they suddenly stop cold. Nah. I'd like to believe it because it would give us and other countries hope but I don't think so.
I hope not since there's no real evidence that it works.
Why do you make posts like this?I hope not since there's no real evidence that it works.
Why do you make posts like this?
You, and people like you create real problems for people wanting accurate information not attached to an election.For starters because it's true - and secondly because the spread of anecdotal stories about hydroxychloriquine effectivenesss against the COVID-19 virus being a miracle drug has resulted in a shortage of the drug. That creates REAL problems for people who need the drug to treat existing immune deficiency disorders like lupus.
For starters because it's true - and secondly because the spread of anecdotal stories about hydroxychloriquine effectivenesss against the COVID-19 virus being a miracle drug has resulted in a shortage of the drug. That creates REAL problems for people who need the drug to treat existing immune deficiency disorders like lupus.
I don't believe your reasons.For starters because it's true - and secondly because the spread of anecdotal stories about hydroxychloriquine effectivenesss against the COVID-19 virus being a miracle drug has resulted in a shortage of the drug. That creates REAL problems for people who need the drug to treat existing immune deficiency disorders like lupus.
He and Art should play chess and live stream it for us during these times of entertainment starving. Then maybe have a spelling bee to further bring them both back to reality.I hope you'll be a little more careful when you try to show off your great knowledge and command of the truth.
You, and people like you create real problems for people wanting accurate information not attached to an election.
I don't believe your reasons.
Your original post stated "I hope not since there's no real evidence that it works".
Do you not recognize the irony of your use of "hope"? Many, many sick and scared people are using this treatment to save their lives. They're using it because medical providers are prescribing it, and because there is anecdotal evidence, respected doctors who have appeared on television (and yes, even some studies) that the treatment can be effective. And medical people themselves are using it; it's been used safely for over 60 years. It is way more than a shot in the dark.
I hope you'll be a little more careful when you try to show off your great knowledge and command of the truth.