Correct. Miller started the year at 144 and moved up to 152 in mid-December.I believe Miller went up weight class(s) during the season and still won it all as a freshman. He really impressed me and I am almost as hard as that Iowa guy to Impress
What board? Credible at all? That would be huge. 141 is a hole coming up so we need to get either Jax or Blaze. We obviously will be fine if we miss on both but getting at least 1 really solidifies 141
"I hear Forrest is leaning towards PSU and that could be bad for Okie State fans. Just heard this today."
If hearsay is a house of cards, hearsay about how a recruit is “leaning” is a house of tissue.
It ain't over til the big bald guy sings.
I never thought he was a lock to OSU. It's why I started this thread. Ha
Not sure what Blaze is going to do. I know the staff would like for him to be a Lion, plus there was a period they thought he was coming. The lack of a commitment suggests to me he is struggling between wrestling for Cael and family ties (brother).
I’ll just say that promoting state college as an end all be all for wrestling all while landing all the top studs over and over is a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy. Cael is a difference maker in folkstyle and has absolutely dominated the last 15 years, but most of the senior level success can be tied to elite recruiting. Most of his greatest folkstyle coaching jobs aren’t big senior level studs. The bonafide studs like DT are.
I don't think people realize Jaxs Dad is a big part of what they are building at McCort. Do people even know he actually holds the title of head coach there not Bill Bassett?
Scott was probably a factor, but Forrest also traveled there to train with Fix. That part hasn't changed.
Somebody had to when PIAA suspended Bassett for 2 years.
Yep but what I'm saying is he's ingrained into the community more than folks realize. After the suspension he remained there and will again this year I believe. Hell, he thanked me one time for pointing out to the Tribune Democrat that they always get it wrong when they write about McCort and mention the head coach in their articles. To be honest, I don't even think the people at Flo know because they get it wrong too. Lol
When OSU hired Taylor, and Coleman wasn't retained in some role, it changed the dynamics of Jax recruitment. Heard it from a local that knows some stuff from other side of the state.
Oh man, so much to respond to. First, senior level successes. Yes, Snyder did well while training at Ohio State but long before he became a member of the NLWC he would show up at PSU and train for multiple weeks at a time.
I think you missed my point a bit. I’m in full agreeance with you about Folkstyle and Caels coaching / dominance. I also agree about what the NLWC offers at this point but that’s just not the same thing as the PSU wrestling room. NLWC is what it is because of who’s there. That’s mobile.
This is a weird comparison. Shapiro finished third as a true freshman, Haines finished second as a true freshman. Let Shapiro wrestle his second year before you compare the start of their careers.
The underlying premise to this post is that "Cael can't coach, he can only recruit". You should go back and read the Iowa board from 2011 through 2022. Were you posting there during this time?
If I was the Cornell coach, I would be a little worried about whether or not Shapiro can finish a second or third year. A few more concussions like he had his freshman year and someone is going to tell him he needs to stop.
The NCAA semi-final success percentage is a top indicator that PSU is doing something right- it's impossible to say that Penn State doesn't prepare its wrestlers to win at the highest levels based on that record. I assume wrestlers entering the semis are all elite and talented, and any given wrestler should have a 50% chance of making the finals. I forget what the exact record is, but PSU is more like 90% success in the semis.
PS - AtownPoke, this post was mainly for you. Just a heads up, you'll sometimes see posts on this board that don't make a lot of logical sense unless you've been on here for a long time. We used to have a couple of characters that would post some pretty outrageous things that I thought were pretty amusing. In particular was a guy who went by the name Spyker. He seems to have disappeared, but maybe he's posting under a new name. Either way, I wish he would come back again because his posts were always entertaining.
So you’re saying what I posted was outrageous lol? I probably deserve that considering the audience 🤣
I believe Spyker is alive and well. He has transitioned to a spicy new handle and a new board.
No doubt but it’s hard to prevent concussions in competition, especially since he seems to be more prone to them.
Sure....but many had Shapiro winning the 2024 title before he even stepped onto a college mat. Those same folks had Levi as a good recruit with a chance to make noise down the road, but certainly not a finalist in year 1.
Do we have any substantiation of Shapiro ever having a concussion, better than the Cornell poster telling us Grey let him wrestle several matches at CKLV after getting his bell rung?
The comparison works. Levi had a helluva quarter-final match as a freshman and found a way to win. Shapiro lost his quarter-final match by a point to a kid he dominated in the 3rd place match. Penn State kids have an extraordinarily high success rate in the QF and SF and that isn't simply because they are always the better recruits.
I do not believe anybody was saying you posted anything outrageous. It was a reference to the need for "8 scoring wrestlers" and the fact this board has multiple inside jokes.
