Jay Bilas just got his @ss handed to him on Twitter by our own ...
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Early on, some folks seemed to jump on the "Jay Bilas" is a voice of reason wrt PSU.
If you actually listened to his words....that idea was kind of silly (kinda' like the comparing PSU to UNC situations nonsense)
Bilas wasn't pro-PSU but he wasn't pitchfork in hand screaming 'she's a witch' either. He basically said that in general, we should let the facts come out but it doesn't look good. If everybody took that approach of Bilas, we would be 90% better than where we are today. He is not the enemy, if Blehar is going to go after someone, go after Brennan or Geiger or somebody that was and still is throwing fuel on the fire.
Just another ESPN mouthpiece. One would think the Duke lacrosse team debacle would give him pause. Nope.
Do you think Jay even slightly cares or gives credit to anything psu nation has to say? His only interest is eyes and clicks and he has gotten his share from this whole fiasco.
Jay doesn't have time to engage in a thoughtful discussion of the facts of the Sandusky case. He's got rap lyrics to prepare for tomorrow morning.
The only part of his stance that's correct is the ncaa should have stayed out of it. Other than that he feels Joe didn't do enough and believes 70s accusations. It was repeatedly pointed out to him that Joe/admins reported 98 and 01 outside of psu to child care experts at CYS/TSM and he doesn't seem to care. Joe still somehow failed.
Until Mike Wise and Jay Bilas demand the firing of fellow ESPN pedophile-enabler Mark Schwarz, they have no credibility on the subject. None.
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I'm a Duke guy, but don't have any trouble choosing sides here. Jay Bilas can be an absolute blockhead. Hates to admit he was wrong.
Go after Brennan or Giger? Would be a better usage of time to try to teach a fish to climb a tree (not that trying to "educate" Bilas is any more likely to be fruitful)
No doubt, Bilas was less "I am outraged" than 99% of the media......but he was only "anti-NCAA", not "pro-PSU"
Then again, most PSU folks were (and are) more than thrilled to hear from anyone who is NOT all "Christine Brennan/Stephen A Smith/Dan Berstein" wrt PSU, and quickly perceive them as "defenders of the realm" - even when they are not.
"Doggedly obtuse" is the term that comes to mind.
Thanks Zenophile, I don't do the tweets so I would have missed this.
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You know there are some posters here who might not know what "obtuse" means and they may call you a show off. Believe me it's true.
Me? I happen to like the word.
Now that is good, hit Bilas and ESPN at the same time and make him comment on that.
I am not defending Bilas or saying he is correct, I am saying that their are much worse people to spend time on then Bilas in this mess. And your constant demeaning of anybody who is not burn down everybody and anything that does not think the same as you is no different. You need to recognize that going after the people on this board that are 90% in agreement with most of what you say but not 100% in agreement just makes that 90% disagree with everything you have to say.
Ziegler would destroy any of these blowhards. JZ has been offering $10K to anyone who can provide evidence that even 1 kid was abused. None of them have stepped up.
Ziegler could out-shout most of these blowhards but at the end of the day, they will have the audience and Ziegler will still be Ziegler. And $10K ain't near enough to pay for having to deal with a psycho like Ziegler, not that he would ever pay up.
Twitter battles are made for people like Ziegler. He thinks it is "EPIC" when he has convinced himself that he "won".
Feels good, doesn't it?
Like a hot cup of soup on a cold and dreary day.
So rather than admit they were wrong, they promote a point of view that enables CSA. Disgusting!
I hate ESPN a lot more. The pontificating and hypocrisy that emanates from Bristol, CT is mind blowing. Keith Whatshisname, Mike Tirico, Scott Van Pelt, Linda Cohn, and Jay Bilas only begin the list. Frank Isola went on TV the other day and did some pontificating of his own: PSU was wrong to honor Joe. PSU "ignored" the reports of sexual assaults occurring back in the 70's. Herbie is about the only decent guy working for that network.
Apparently pointing out the facts of who really failed the kids is "misdirection" according to Bilas...
That's fine, but I don't fully agree with the people you mentioned. I agree with JZ, there was no cover up because there was nothing to cover up. I went along with JS being a pedophile for a while, but it just doesn't make any sense based on evidence or lack there of and logic. I understand that is a very non PC view point, but I just don't believe any of the accusers. In any fair court of law with a non biased jury, JS is found not guilty imo.
That comes after he has fully insulted his intended audience. He really knows how to make them receptive to what he is saying. That softens them up for when he goes into frothing-at-the-mouth ranting.
The problem is you can't attack people on Twitter and then expect them to say they are wrong and suddenly see the light. It NEVER works. They will dig in their heels and then obfuscate and ignore anything they don't like. It's human nature.
You have to walk them through it nicely, constructively (over and over if need be) and let them see it as their own logical conclusion (rather than a lecture from an unknown Twitter person).
You have to walk them through it nicely, constructively (over and over if need be) and let them see it as their own logical conclusion (rather than a lecture from an unknown Twitter person).
“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!”
― Brian Cox
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!”
― Brian Cox
There was someone recently that wrote a column basically calling Paterno a racist because he didn't stop Sandusky from abusing all those poor black boys (since, in her words, a charity for underprivileged youth is code for "poor black boys"). When I told her that none of Sandusky's victims were black, she told me I was wrong because she had her sources. I figured then I wasn't going to change her mind.
For all their outrage on television and social media about Joe, they don't give a single sh!t about The Second Mile or any of the child welfare organizations that really did fail the kids. They never give a response when you remind them 1998 and 2001 were both reported outside the University.
Theoretically correct. However, in this situation no matter how it's approached they're going to stick with their narrative. So given that, might as well go into attack mode. Name one media type who will admit to changing/his/her mind on this. You're assuming they're interested in the truth. So may as well belittle the hell out of them. Nothing to lose.
With all this back and forth on twitter, why no mention of Allen Myers? Does Bilas and Wise even realize that no abuse happened in that shower let alone an anal rape? That Myers defended JS the day JVP was fired? That Myers was photographed with JS at his wedding, a photo used to highlight a success story at second mile when JS retired? I don't get why PSU's most stuanch defenders won't call out the obvious liars in this. The reason everyone in this story acted the way they did is because no one thought JS was a pedo, isn't that obvious!?
Wait, what? The guy who wrote a long article citing very unvetted claims, and now he's worried about vetting?
He doesn't get clicks for himself on twitter. And he is risking looking foolish to all the people who either follow him or follow the people interacting with him.
Again, you really don't hope to change the opinion of someone like Bilas, but you might get to a few followers who are on the fence or never saw or heard any of the facts being presented. You hate getting into pissing matches, but there's always the feeling that if you say nothing, their side gets presented as the inarguable truth. We can thank our BOT for that.
Funny how jay can't come up with anything jvp should have done, but anyone can come up with what mark Schwartz could have done more
