Jim Boeheim (fired) retired after 47 years..wow.

[creamery freak]

Boeheim is a cheating douche - good riddance to that POS. Of course ESPN will kiss his ass since they are littered with Syracuse Grads.

The other thing that happened was ESPN sat on a tape of Bernie Fine's wife admitting guilt, while talking to the ball boys. I can imagine the persecution JoePa would have received if he said the victims were trying to extort PSU.

 

[PSUcup1]

The other thing that happened was ESPN sat on a tape of Bernie Fine's wife admitting guilt, while talking to the ball boys. I can imagine the persecution JoePa would have received if he said the victims were trying to extort PSU.

Yep. He also walked in on Fine and the kid laying in bed together in a hotel room, rolled his eyes and walked out

He’s an epic piece of shit

 

[bvillebaron]

No, I'm not talking about how he handled what was reported to him. I'm talking about how they responded when it was released in the media. Also, an attorney--I'm not saying he didn't again wrong legally. Don't even know why you thought that.

Boeheim, hate him all you want it's legit, handled things PERFECTLY in dealing with the media. Perfect.

No you specifically said Paterno handled it horribly (after it was released to the media) but provided no specifics as to how. Maybe it’s just me but it’s kinda hard to handle something in any manner when your bosses refuse to permit you to talk to the press (and then unceremoniously fire you). Absolutely no disagreement that the PSU Administration and BOT handled this abysmally after it became public.

 

[ryoder1]

No you specifically said Paterno handled it horribly (after it was released to the media) but provided no specifics as to how. Maybe it’s just me but it’s kinda hard to handle something in any manner when your bosses refuse to permit you to talk to the press (and then unceremoniously fire you). Absolutely no disagreement that the PSU Administration and BOT handled this abysmally after it became public.

From now on that group who fired Paterno in the most cowardly way possible are NOT a "Penn State Board of Trustees". In NO WAY do they deserve a title like that. They are what they are and forever will be known as "Cowardly Circus Monkey Schmucks".

 

[LandoComando]

Paterno handled it perfectly appropriately. The Board threw him under the bus and put the blame on him

When they threw him under the bus he did what?

 

[LandoComando]

No you specifically said Paterno handled it horribly (after it was released to the media) but provided no specifics as to how. Maybe it’s just me but it’s kinda hard to handle something in any manner when your bosses refuse to permit you to talk to the press (and then unceremoniously fire you). Absolutely no disagreement that the PSU Administration and BOT handled this abysmally after it became public.

He wasn't employed at that point. Why are you acting like he was employed after it broke?
Pretending Joe shouldn't have fought back after he was termed is false
Paterno infinitely better than Boeheim in most every way but Boeheim learned from Joe's mistakes

 

[Zenophile]

"Hey Siri, what has 5 digits and can eat an infinite number of dicks?"

 

[j-buff]

Boeheim is a real scum bag. I am happy to see him go

 

[AvgUser]

He wasn't employed at that point. Why are you acting like he was employed after it broke?
Pretending Joe shouldn't have fought back after he was termed is false
Paterno infinitely better than Boeheim in most every way but Boeheim learned from Joe's mistakes

WTF are you trying to say? Just say it for christs sake. Cite real right/wrong’s!

 

[LandoComando]

WTF are you trying to say? Just say it for christs sake. Cite real right/wrong’s!

I've said it--Paterno didn't go on the offensive. Boeheim did. Paterno's approach was incorrect while Boeheim handled it correctly. It's not a difficult concept. Paterno, and maybe it was due to his declining health, could not have handled the aftermath of the story breaking worse.

 

[MacNit07]

I've said it--Paterno didn't go on the offensive. Boeheim did. Paterno's approach was incorrect while Boeheim handled it correctly. It's not a difficult concept. Paterno, and maybe it was due to his declining health, could not have handled the aftermath of the story breaking worse.

Joe was weeks away from death for Christ’s sake!

 

[LandoComando]

Joe was weeks away from death for Christ’s sake!

Yet he was still coaching until that very moment when he was fired. So well enough to run a major program but suddenly, the second he got fired, no longer able to do anything. Seems...convenient.

 

[eidolon21]

Yet he was still coaching until that very moment when he was fired. So well enough to run a major program but suddenly, the second he got fired, no longer able to do anything. Seems...convenient.

Death is never convenient when its you who are going to die Give it a rest!!

 

[Still in State College]

I think Lando is right. Penn State decided the strategy to take the blame for everything. Other schools (Syracuse, MSU, OSU, etc.) went on the offensive and said it was about that person not the school etc. That has proven to be the better strategy. PSU gave the green light for the world to pile on.

 

[creamery freak]

I think Lando is right. Penn State decided the strategy to take the blame for everything. Other schools (Syracuse, MSU, OSU, etc.) went on the offensive and said it was about that person not the school etc. That has proven to be the better strategy. PSU gave the green light for the world to pile on.

Just remember that strategy was pushed by the hierarchy of the BOT that were tied into The Second Mile. They wanted it fabricated so it would be put on PSU's dime not theirs.

 

[Still in State College]

Just remember that strategy was pushed by the hierarchy of the BOT that were tied into The Second Mile. They wanted it fabricated so it would be put on PSU's dime not theirs.

Doesn't really matter why. It was a terrible strategy.

 

[LandoComando]

Just remember that strategy was pushed by the hierarchy of the BOT that were tied into The Second Mile. They wanted it fabricated so it would be put on PSU's dime not theirs.

That's fine, i agree, but let's not pretend Paterno couldn't have gone on the offensive once fired.

 

[LandoComando]

Death is never convenient when its you who are going to die Give it a rest!!

This isn't anti-Paterno. No one is perfect. Better man than Boeheim but that doesn't mean Boeheim didn't handle it better

 

[voltz99]

I think Lando is right. Penn State decided the strategy to take the blame for everything. Other schools (Syracuse, MSU, OSU, etc.) went on the offensive and said it was about that person not the school etc. That has proven to be the better strategy. PSU gave the green light for the world to pile on.

Right. Easy to pick the best strategy AFTER the fact.

 

[Still in State College]

Right. Easy to pick the best strategy AFTER the fact.

I can't imagine how anyone thought that taking the blame and pinning it on big time football would work out well for the university especially in the pile on age we live in.

You are correct though. All the other schools saw the disaster that was Penn State, and they took the complete opposite approach.

 

[LandoComando]

Right. Easy to pick the best strategy AFTER the fact.

At the time most people said Penn State and Paterno needed to go on the offensive. This isn't with the benefit of hindsight. This was obvious from day 1.

 

[WHCANole]

Was Bernie Fine ever convicted of anything criminal? Asking for a friend.

 

[AWS1022]

Was Bernie Fine ever convicted of anything criminal? Asking for a friend.

Was OJ Simpson? Asking for a friend.

 

[WHCANole]

Was OJ Simpson? Asking for a friend.

Yeah and he went to jail. Was Bernie Fine ever even charged? Try again.

 

[AWS1022]

Yeah and he went to jail. Was Bernie Fine ever even charged? Try again.

So OJ was convicted of killing his wife? Hm, didn’t know that. Not being convicted or charged doesn’t make someone not guilty.

 

[MacNit07]

Yet he was still coaching until that very moment when he was fired. So well enough to run a major program but suddenly, the second he got fired, no longer able to do anything. Seems...convenient.

Well he did announce his retirement.

And he did die. Good grief, you are heartless!

 

[WHCANole]

So OJ was convicted of killing his wife? Hm, didn’t know that. Not being convicted or charged doesn’t make someone not guilty.

No, he was convicted and served time in prison for Armed Robbery and Kidnapping.

So, the answer is Bernie Fine was charged with nothing so what makes him guilty? His ex wife who was screwing the accuser? LOL. You JoeBots are funny.

BTW, OJ was found in civil court to have killed his wife. Maybe you should read up before you post?

 

[WHCANole]

Well he did announce his retirement.

After the shyte hit the fan

And he did die. Good grief, you are heartless!

And Joe was not helpless either.

 

[WHCANole]

Seriously? We’ll consider the following:
(1) Paterno immediately reported whatever the McQueary told to his boss, Curley.

More like passed the buck. Curley was Joe's boss on paper only. Joe called those shots.

This resulted in Schultz contacting PSU’s attorney to specifically ask about the duty to report suspected abuse.

Which they didn't do.

The person obligated to report under the statute was the person in charge which was Spanier.

Agree

Counsel later testified that he told Schultz or Spanier he wasn’t sure if it warranted a report but they should out of an abundance of caution (this was Spanier’s mistake)

Cover up

(2) After notifying Curley Paterno thereafter stayed out of any subsequent investigation which is precisely the rule the hypocrites in the NCAA adopted shortly thereafter

No, he participated in the decision to not report Sandusky as the emails show.

(3) Paterno wanted to tell his side of the story after the arrest but was denied the right to do so by the BOT

But once he was out he could have held any press conference he wished

(4) One of the “criticisms” leveled against Paterno by the lynch mob was that he “should have done more” but none of them after said what exactly more he should have done.

Insured the the police were notified properly.

Parenthetically, Sandusky was a former coach who was granted access to PSU facilities by others who negotiated Sandusky’s retirement package.

Joe approved of it too.

Although he was not directly involved in those negotiations, he was asked to comment on the package and his handwritten notes confirm he specifically said permitting Sandusky access seemed okay but that should not include permitting him to bring Second Mile kids on campus (you can find this in one of the Appendices to the Freeh report). While it is true that Joe’s reason for saying Second Mile kids on campus was because of potential liability concerns (one of his kids was injured in a trampoline incident as I recall) the fact is that if the board heeded Paterno’s advice then, none of this would have happened.

Perhaps. Maybe if Spanier had shown the BOT members wanting to give Sandusky access the Chambers report from 1998 it wouldn't have happened either.

Don’t even get me started on the failures of DPW (whose charge is to protect minors) and the Second Mile (a child protection agency).

Yet they can't be blamed for 2001 as they were not told. Joe was part of that.

Interestingly, neither Corbett nor Shapiro who moved heaven and earth to get guilty pleas from Curley and Schultz and a conviction against Spanier ever conducted any investigation of the DPW or the Second Mile despite the fact that the AG’s office had direct oversight responsibility over both.

Yes Shapiro did and the Feds investigated TSM as well. Nothing was there. Check this out

Shall I go on?

Sure

I have always said Joe should have retired 10 years sooner,

This is correct but hubris kept him in.

but the vilification of Paterno over the Sandusky situation is the most egregious example of scapegoating I have seen in my 70 years of living on this planet and more than 40 years of practicising law which includes representing parents of children subjected to child abuse.

Seems the evidence does not support your charge.

 

[WHCANole]

Just remember that strategy was pushed by the hierarchy of the BOT that were tied into The Second Mile. They wanted it fabricated so it would be put on PSU's dime not theirs.

Joe was tied to TSM too you know.

 

[LandoComando]

Well he did announce his retirement.

And he did die. Good grief, you are heartless!

Heartless?
You're pretending Paterno retired?
Listen, Joe was a great man but I don't have to pretend he never did anything wrong. He wasn't perfect. No one is.

 

[Lion84]

I see the AHoleNole came out of his moms basement since Paterno was mentioned - this turd isn’t even a decent troll - f him.

 

[WHCANole]

I see the AHoleNole came out of his moms basement since Paterno was mentioned - this turd isn’t even a decent troll - f him.

You know you really wanted me back didn't you? 🤣