John Amaechi on racism

[MacNit07]

I’m talking about his thoughts on racism, not his thoughts on JoePa. But bring John’s name up, and a serious topic immediately turns into his thoughts on Paterno.

Honestly, I think he’s got it wrong on Joe, but that doesn’t mean I can’t learn from him on another important topic. And it doesn’t make him a “piece of shit”, and that his thoughts on the scandal trump all the good he’s done.

You THINK he has it wrong on Joe? For starters, since he does not know Joe at all not does he know the details of the Sandusky situation what makes you believe JA would have an informed opinion on Joe? But he spouts off an inflammatory opinion anyway. So don’t you question his judgement on other situations? JA says “stuff” without the facts and without thinking! So a total fraud!

 

[joeparules]

He is a POS

Agreed on Mr. Righteous ... don’t give a (bleep) what he has to say.

 

[87 Penn St8]

I may be the only person on this board except maybe Lat who has spent time with John. I met his agent on a flight to Salt Lake City when I had a sponsorship w Jazz for AT&T, and was working on the 2002 Olympics. Agent invited me to meet John after the game that night. We chatted and then went our separate ways. In my brief interaction he was bright, kind and graceful. The fact that his best friend in SLC, who was a "regular person" waitress from a coffeehouse that I met with the agent after the game, says that he looks at the person more that the wallet. Do I disagree with his politics on Paterno. Yes. Does that make him a "piece of shit?" If that transitive property works for all controversial people and issues...then that is something that many can question on a much larger basis in today's America.

 

[MacNit07]

I may be the only person on this board except maybe Lat who has spent time with John. I met his agent on a flight to Salt Lake City when I had a sponsorship w Jazz for AT&T, and was working on the 2002 Olympics. Agent invited me to meet John after the game that night. We chatted and then went our separate ways. In my brief interaction he was bright, kind and graceful. The fact that his best friend in SLC, who was a "regular person" waitress from a coffeehouse that I met with the agent after the game, says that he looks at the person more that the wallet. Do I disagree with his politics on Paterno. Yes. Does that make him a "piece of shit?" If that transitive property works for all controversial people and issues...then that is something that many can question on a much larger basis in today's America.

It’s not his opinion, but how he arrives at it - too lazy to find out facts. And it is about probably THE most important issue to PSU. Sorry - still have no respect for JA.

 

[87 Penn St8]

Today many people arrive at "facts" based on which cable channel they watch. I have not given PSU one cent (except for buying athletic tickets) since Oct. 2011. How we choose to see others is our choice. I agree, respect is earned. I don't necessarily " respect" John, nor do I think he is a piece of crap. That mentality has lead us to where we stand. We Are better, right?

 

[MacNit07]

Today many people arrive at "facts" based on which cable channel they watch. I have not given PSU one cent (except for buying athletic tickets) since Oct. 2011. How we choose to see others is our choice. I agree, respect is earned. I don't necessarily " respect" John, nor do I think he is a piece of crap. That mentality has lead us to where we stand. We Are better, right?

How about examine issues from various vantages, finding out actual data (rather than spin)? If I am a conservative and CNN says 2+2 = 4, does that make CNN wrong? If I am liberal and Fox News says 1+1 = 2, does that mean Fox News is wrong. A little bit of homework and objectivity by everyone is in order.

 

[bvillebaron]

Really, what did JoePa know as opposed to the local police had already known. I seem to recall the local constabulary did a sting operation on Coach Sandusky, which proved negative. So, they did know Sandusky was a suspected pederast. What more was JoePa to do after that? All statements that he should have informed authorities of Sandusky's tendencies are absurd since they already knew.

Oh there is far more to it than that. The cops and DPW separately investigated Sandusky for that earlier incident. DPW had Sandusky undergo an evaluation which concluded he for the classic profile of a groomer (pedophile). Over the objection of an assistant Centre County DA, they had another one done which concluded he was “harmless”. Guess which one they reported back to PSU?
The claim that Paterno “controlled” everything at PSU is beyond laughable. He was not involved in negotiating Sandusky’s retirement package which gave him emeritus status and the right to bring TSM kids on campus. The administration asked Joe for his comments and he said he was okay with letting Sandusky use PSU facilities but not with him bringing TSM kids on campus (You can find Joe’s handwritten notes in an exhibit to the Freeh propaganda piece). It’s true that Joe’s comments focused on potential liability concerns, but the fact is the administration ignored the advice of the man who supposedly “ran the campus” on that occasion.
McQuery told Joe whatever the hell he told him about Sandusky on a Saturday and he reported it to his superiors the next day. Schultz contacted university counsel specifically about the duty to report suspected abuse and was told that he didn’t know if there was a duty based on the information given him but thought it was a good idea out of an abundance of caution.
Under the child reporting statue in effect at the time, the “person in charge” or his designee was solely responsible to report to DPW. Since there was no designee, that person was Spanier who conceded in an email he would agree to not report, but recognized this could backfire
PSU told Raykovitz at TSM, a psychologist and mandatory reporter Sandusky was no longer permitted to bring TSM kids on campus. I guess we are all supposed to believe that he never bothered to ask why. Worse yet, TSM then permitted Sandusky to take kids off TSM property up until the time he was arrested.
Yeah this was all Joe’s fault. LMAO.

 

[87 Penn St8]

I teach high school. Once a week we start class looking at the "news" from an assortment or websites. Suffice it to say that you wouldn't know we are in the same country most of the time based on what is featured. An intelligent person doesn't follow the sheep...but draws their own conclusions based on as much evidence as possible. Was Jerry a perv? Yes. Are Big Red, his old man and the Dr. D guilty of not doing the "right thing" themselves. Yes. DoD our own reps sell out our school's reputation and Joe? Yes. If I were to do what Joe did in 2011 based on a perceived student abuse issue, would I have been doing my duty? Yes. I agree, being informed is the only way your opinion matters, otherwise you end up quacking whatever the 8pm cable tv host tells you too. John A, in my opinion,ion, did a disservice to PSU re Joe. But he is far, far from the worst. If Bartram isn't called for that phantom "hold" vs. Calvert Cheney then JA is arguably part of the biggest W in PSU hoops history. Would we still hate on him as much?

 

[KCLion]

I teach high school. Once a week we start class looking at the "news" from an assortment or websites. Suffice it to say that you wouldn't know we are in the same country most of the time based on what is featured. An intelligent person doesn't follow the sheep...but draws their own conclusions based on as much evidence as possible. Was Jerry a perv? Yes. Are Big Red, his old man and the Dr. D guilty of not doing the "right thing" themselves. Yes. DoD our own reps sell out our school's reputation and Joe? Yes. If I were to do what Joe did in 2011 based on a perceived student abuse issue, would I have been doing my duty? Yes. I agree, being informed is the only way your opinion matters, otherwise you end up quacking whatever the 8pm cable tv host tells you too. John A, in my opinion,ion, did a disservice to PSU re Joe. But he is far, far from the worst. If Bartram isn't called for that phantom "hold" vs. Calvert Cheney then JA is arguably part of the biggest W in PSU hoops history. Would we still hate on him as much?

If they had won That game I would still feel the same about JA based on his total lack of curiosity for the truth and his “need” to be loved by the very administration that was throwing us all under the bus at the time this all took place. Hell, he could have scored the 4th down TD over Bama in the 79 Sugar Bowl to win the title and I would feel the same.

 

[MacNit07]

I teach high school. Once a week we start class looking at the "news" from an assortment or websites. Suffice it to say that you wouldn't know we are in the same country most of the time based on what is featured. An intelligent person doesn't follow the sheep...but draws their own conclusions based on as much evidence as possible. Was Jerry a perv? Yes. Are Big Red, his old man and the Dr. D guilty of not doing the "right thing" themselves. Yes. DoD our own reps sell out our school's reputation and Joe? Yes. If I were to do what Joe did in 2011 based on a perceived student abuse issue, would I have been doing my duty? Yes. I agree, being informed is the only way your opinion matters, otherwise you end up quacking whatever the 8pm cable tv host tells you too. John A, in my opinion,ion, did a disservice to PSU re Joe. But he is far, far from the worst. If Bartram isn't called for that phantom "hold" vs. Calvert Cheney then JA is arguably part of the biggest W in PSU hoops history. Would we still hate on him as much?

No hate involved. Just lack of respect.