Judge John H. Foradora of Jefferson County assigned to Sandusky PCRA case

[coveydidnt]

Let this sink in for a moment:



Of all the entities involved in this fiasco:

TomCorbett / LindaKelly / TomNoonan / LynnAbraham / LouisFreeh / ThePSUBOT / KathyKane / FinaMcGettiganBeemer ....... etc etc.


Even in a brief passing action - - - - The NCAA, THE FREAKING NCAA, made more of an effort to look at the 2nd Mile than all the rest of them.


Bewildering.

The nhT COr

It's almost like you work for the FBI. Otherwise how would you know so much about whether or not they investigated TSM.

Ray Blehar, Ryan Bagwell & other researchers all seem to think at least one if not more Federal investigations occurred.

 

[francofan]

Why? What a silly thing to say.

Just a hunch. It seems to me that you would support the actions and tactics of the old guard BOT members.

 

[Stufftodo]

It's almost like you work for the FBI. Otherwise how would you know so much about whether or not they investigated TSM.

Ray Blehar, Ryan Bagwell & other researchers all seem to think at least one if not more Federal investigations occurred.

There is evidence, produced by Bagwell, that this correct. What that investigation is about, and who it currently involves, is anyone's guess.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7XMvBRjdt05WVppU3JBcWF6OGM/edit

 

[coveydidnt]

Just a hunch. It seems to me that you would support the actions and tactics of the old guard BOT members.

It's not an either/or thing, but ...

Gun to my head, I would have Keith be a babysitter if it was a choice between him & Jerry. I wouldn't wish that choice on anyone, and wouldn't feel great about it.

 

[bjf1991]

It's almost like you work for the FBI. Otherwise how would you know so much about whether or not they investigated TSM.

Ray Blehar, Ryan Bagwell & other researchers all seem to think at least one if not more Federal investigations occurred.

Funny........I don't seem to recall any references to the "FBI" in my post.


You wanna' have a conversation about that? Go ahead......maybe you can find someone interested in joining you. I couldn't tell you - OTTOMH - exactly what Ray or Ryan have said on that topic .....
Though I am sure that I read whatever they wrote at the time - - - - - and I am aware that Ray (and others, including at least one of our many former Attorney Generals) had strong indications that the "Feds" were looking into at least some aspects of the "Sandusky Affair" - - - - -and I trust that Ray (and others) looked into that situation intelligently and logically.

As for me, I've heard/said/discussed enough about the "Federal situation" for enough years - - - - with absolutely zero definitive information coming forth - - - - that I've put it on the back-burner, unless and until something of even a little substance/credibility emerges from that primordial ooze.

 

[marshall23]

Let this sink in for a moment:



Of all the entities involved in this fiasco:

TomCorbett / LindaKelly / TomNoonan / LynnAbraham / LouisFreeh / ThePSUBOT / KathyKane / FinaMcGettiganBeemer ....... etc etc.


Even in a brief passing action - - - - The NCAA, THE FREAKING NCAA, made more of an effort to look at the 2nd Mile than all the rest of them.


Bewildering.

The nhT COr

It tells me that all the others you alluded to knew what was behind the curtain.

 

[lionlurker]

It's not an either/or thing, but ...

Gun to my head, I would have Keith be a babysitter if it was a choice between him & Jerry. I wouldn't wish that choice on anyone, and wouldn't feel great about it.

That's a pretty stupid comparison.

 

[green2623]

Q. Okay. So you were a board member of 05:45 7 the Second Mile from 2008 to sometime in 2012? 05:45 8 A. I think that's accurate. Somewhere 05:45 9 in that area. 05:45 10 Q. Give or take? 05:45 11 A. Yeah. 05:45 12 Q. Okay. And when the grand jury 05:45 13 presentment came out, did you know anything 05:45 14 about the allegations? 05:45 15 A. I mean, nothing to do with -- well, 05:45 16 it was in the Patriot News. So that story 05:45 17 about Jerry Sandusky was there. I don't 05:45 18 know -- the whole Penn State component was a 05:45 19 surprise. 05:45 20 Q. Okay. 05:45 21 A. And the whole multiple victim was a 05:45 22 surprise. 05:45 23 Q. Okay. 05:45 24 A. We had been informed, I think, 05:45 25 through our leadership to Second Mile that there was this investigation going on. So, 05:45 2 therefore, they took steps -- this happened all 05:45 3 before I got there. They took steps to move 05:46 4 Mr. Sandusky out the population at that point 05:46 5 in time. 05:46 6 So we were aware there was an 05:46 7 investigation going on. We didn't realize 05:46 8 anywhere the depth of it. 05:46 9 Q. So the Second Mile knew about 05:46 10 allegations of Jerry Sandusky molesting 05:46 11 children prior to your arrival in 2008? 05:46 12 A. Before my first board meeting, the 05:46 13 head of the Second Mile, Mr. Raykovitz, came to 05:46 14 me to inform me that this matter was going on, 05:46 15 that there was investigation. To what level, 05:46 16 we don't know and didn't know, but just that 05:46 17 there was investigation into possible sexual 05:46 18 assault by Mr. Sandusky, and that the steps 05:46 19 they had taken to deal with that. 05:46 20 Q. Okay. And what steps had they taken? 05:46 21 A. Again, I think to remove Mr. Sandusky 05:46 22 from the population of anyone at the Second 05:47 23 Mile. 05:47 24 At that time, he still attended 05:47 25 a little bit of the fundraising kind of thing,but he did not participate in any of the 05:47 2 activities with the kids, so he would not have 05:47 3 any interaction with the kids. 05:47 4 Q. Did you review the steps that had 05:47 5 been taken in your capacity as a board member 05:47 6 and deem them sufficient? 05:47 7 A. Uh-hum. 05:47 8 Q. Yes? 05:47 9 A. Yes. 05:47 10 Q. Okay. 05:47 11 A. Sorry. 05:47 12 Q. You didn't think anything else needed 05:47 13 to be done? 05:47 14 A. Well, again, we were flying in the 05:47 15 dark here somewhat. But clearly, the fact that 05:47 16 we knew that there was an investigation going 05:47 17 on was concerning, and so that's why we wanted 05:47 18 to make sure he was not involved with any of 05:47 19 the participants in the camp or in the program, 05:47 20 and then we, you know, waited for -- to hear 05:47 21 more from -- from the investigation. 05:47 22 Q. You said there was an investigation 05:47 23 when you arrived in 2008. Investigation by 05:47 24 whom? 05:47 25 A. I -- I believe it was the Attorney General's Office at that point already. 05:47 2 And I think, and I could be 05:47 3 wrong here, that the information that they were 05:47 4 getting, the board leadership at the Second 05:47 5 Mile, was through Mr. Sandusky's attorney. We 05:48 6 weren't being informed by prosecutors or 05:48 7 anything of that nature. We were -- that 05:48 8 Mr. Sandusky's attorney informed us of this 05:48 9 investigation, so we took -- they took what 05:48 10 they thought was the proper steps. 05:48 11 Q. At any time during your tenure on the 05:48 12 Second Mile board, did you consider that the 05:48 13 Second Mile ought to conduct some sort of 05:48 14 investigation into Jerry Sandusky? 05:48 15 A. We were waiting for obviously the 05:48 16 investigation to figure that the -- obviously, 05:48 17 law enforcement had more resources ability to 05:48 18 deal with it than we did. Like any other 05:48 19 investigation, you wait to see what the results 05:48 20 are and make the decisions from there. 05:48 21 Q. Looking back at your tenure on Second 05:48 22 Mile with perfect hindsight, do you wish you 05:48 23 did anything different as a director? 05:48 24 A. Gee, I don't know, not off the top of 05:48 25 my head, no.

https://ps4rs.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/corman-deposition-cormanvncaa-2014.pdf

Blovator

 

[coveydidnt]

That's a pretty stupid comparison.

The guy (francofan) asked if I was a Keith Eckel supporter. I am the opposite. It was just about the only comparison I could possibly make where K.E. came out on top.

It is stupid

 

[WeR0206]

The guy (francofan) asked if I was a Keith Eckel supporter. I am the opposite. It was just about the only comparison I could possibly make where K.E. came out on top.

It is stupid

Apparently you have some homework to do. The video you linked to re: Covey was made by Keith and his cronies who were trying to sandbag Covey's run for S.C. Judge. Keith somehow found himself on the board or entity that evaluate judges (this panel gave the "do no endorse" stamp to Covey), can't recall the name of it.

 

[IANit]

Objective as in only agrees with you!!!

As soon as he slams the door shut on the sandusky appeal he will then be considered just another corrupt judge by the Jerry lovers.

I'm not a Jerry lover, but I do believe that Justice should prevail. By Justice I mean the system should operate fairly no matter how disgusting we may find the alleged acts of the accused. I have doubts as to the validity of some of the evidence used to convict Jerry, but it seems hard to believe that he's not guilty of something. Even if everyone lied at trial or remembered things that didn't really happen due to repressed memory therapy and the like, Jerry put himself in compromising situations after a normal person would have realized they needed to stop.

That said, I thought there were numerous issues with his trial. I can only go by what I read in the media, pick up in court filings and read from boards like this one. I never met Amendola, but I've read about jury verdicts he won in the past and thought he was pretty good for Central PA. I remember a homicide by vehicle case that he won that sounded like he did a good job for his client. The Amendola I saw here was seemingly in over his head or had already resigned himself to defeat. The Costas interview was a terrible idea in my view, but if he was going to do it he needed to have Jerry coached on how to answer questions. Sure, you can say he shouldn't have needed coaching, but it would be hard not to be nervous when being grilled by Costas if you aren't used to it. That may not have had much legal significance, but it pretty much swayed the court of public opinion.

One thing may not be Amendola's fault - the prosecution dumped a bunch of documents on him on the eve of trial and the judge denied extra time to review them. I don't know if there was any Brady material or not, but it didn't strike me as fair play since Amendola was solo at that point and had no one else to review the documents. I don't know what he could do there as far as an appeal. If he had to be in court the next day filing an interlocutory appeal may not have been possible even if he was allowed under the rules.

But at trial Amendola seemed to write it in. Even his late-joining co-counsel Karl Rominger said so. Rominger has personal issues, but from what I read of his testimony he did seem to have a good grasp on the issues in play and places where Amendola didn't bother to object but reasonably should have.

I'm not aware of Amendola doing much if anything regarding repressed memory therapy and how it may have played a key role here.

I thought Judge Cleland made a number of rulings that were questionable. He seemed to want to get the trial over as quickly as possible with a predetermined outcome. The denial of extra time to prepare, the allowance of apparently perjured testimony of the police officers regarding coaching witnesses and a number of other things all favorable to the commonwealth seemed to indicate bias. The pre-trial meetings at the hotel where presumably the out-of-town judge and prosecution was staying at even if defense was present at some point sounds fishy too.

PA's system of having the trial judge review his own trial for errors seems laughable to me. That has to change at some point.

I think guilty-or-not Sandusky should get a new trial, but if Foradora issues a well-reasoned opinion that determines otherwise then I'm likely to be fine with it.

 

[francofan]

Apparently you have some homework to do. The video you linked to re: Covey was made by Keith and his cronies who were trying to sandbag Covey's run for S.C. Judge. Keith somehow found himself on the board or entity that evaluate judges (this panel gave the "do no endorse" stamp to Covey), can't recall the name of it.

The name of it was the Pennsylvania Bar Association.

 

[bjf1991]

The name of it was the Pennsylvania Bar Association.

PA Bar Association Judicial Evaluation Board

And don't forget our good friend Ernie Salvino (also an outspoken defender of the PSU OGBOT Scoundrels)......and husband of our esteemed PSU BOT member Kay "Crypt Keeper" Salvino.

Two guys as qualified to "rate" judges as I am qualified to fly fighter jets.