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July 2, 1776

Tom McAndrew

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On this day in 1776, the Second Continental Congress, assembled in Philadelphia, formally adopted Richard Henry Lee's resolution for independence from Great Britain. The vote was unanimous, with only New York abstaining.

The resolution had originally been presented to Congress on June 7, but it soon became clear that New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland and South Carolina were as yet unwilling to declare independence, though they would likely be ready to vote in favor of a break with England in due course. Thus, Congress agreed to delay the vote on Lee's Resolution until July 1. In the intervening period, Congress appointed a committee to draft a formal declaration of independence. Its members were John Adams of Massachusetts, Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania, Roger Sherman of Connecticut, Robert R. Livingston of New York and Thomas Jefferson of Virginia. Thomas Jefferson, well-known to be the best writer of the group, was selected to be the primary author of the document, which was presented to Congress for review on June 28, 1776.

On July 1, 1776, debate on the Lee Resolution resumed as planned, with a majority of the delegates favoring the resolution. Congress thought it of the utmost importance that independence be unanimously proclaimed. To ensure this, they delayed the final vote until July 2, when 12 colonial delegations voted in favor of it, with the New York delegates abstaining, unsure of how their constituents would wish them to vote. John Adams wrote that July 2 would be celebrated as the most memorable epoch in the history of America. Instead, the day has been largely forgotten in favor of July 4, when Jefferson's edited Declaration of Independence was adopted.

The words of Adams, referenced above, are from a letter he wrote to his wife, Abagail, on July 3, 1776, which said this about July 2nd:

"[Independence Day] will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival… It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade with shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this continent to the other from this Time forward forever more, ..."




^^ For the Bicentennial Celebration, in 1976, this house was rebuilt, and is now part of Independence National Historical Park^^
 
One thing I didn't realize for a long time about the people that led the American Revolution, which in retrospect makes it more ballsy, is that if it had failed, the organizers of it would have been jailed for a long time at minimum and more likely would have been executed.
 
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One thing I didn't realize for a long time about the people that led the American Revolution, which in retrospect makes it more ballsy, is that if it had failed, the organizers of it would have been jailed for a long time at minimum and more likely would have been executed.
Wasn’t that something about being hung together because surely they would be hung separately
 
On this day in 1776, the Second Continental Congress, assembled in Philadelphia, formally adopted Richard Henry Lee's resolution for independence from Great Britain. The vote was unanimous, with only New York abstaining.

The resolution had originally been presented to Congress on June 7, but it soon became clear that New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland and South Carolina were as yet unwilling to declare independence, though they would likely be ready to vote in favor of a break with England in due course. Thus, Congress agreed to delay the vote on Lee's Resolution until July 1. In the intervening period, Congress appointed a committee to draft a formal declaration of independence. Its members were John Adams of Massachusetts, Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania, Roger Sherman of Connecticut, Robert R. Livingston of New York and Thomas Jefferson of Virginia. Thomas Jefferson, well-known to be the best writer of the group, was selected to be the primary author of the document, which was presented to Congress for review on June 28, 1776.

On July 1, 1776, debate on the Lee Resolution resumed as planned, with a majority of the delegates favoring the resolution. Congress thought it of the utmost importance that independence be unanimously proclaimed. To ensure this, they delayed the final vote until July 2, when 12 colonial delegations voted in favor of it, with the New York delegates abstaining, unsure of how their constituents would wish them to vote. John Adams wrote that July 2 would be celebrated as the most memorable epoch in the history of America. Instead, the day has been largely forgotten in favor of July 4, when Jefferson's edited Declaration of Independence was adopted.

The words of Adams, referenced above, are from a letter he wrote to his wife, Abagail, on July 3, 1776, which said this about July 2nd:

"[Independence Day] will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival… It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade with shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this continent to the other from this Time forward forever more, ..."




^^ For the Bicentennial Celebration, in 1976, this hour was rebuilt, and is now part of Independence National Historical Park^^
Who is the numnut who decided to demolish the house where Jefferson drafted the Declaration of Independence?
 
One thing I didn't realize for a long time about the people that led the American Revolution, which in retrospect makes it more ballsy, is that if it had failed, the organizers of it would have been jailed for a long time at minimum and more likely would have been executed.

Perhaps. There certainly was an expectation of such by the leaders. And there were several statements and actions by the British that gave good reason to believe that would happen.

On the flip side, in peace overtures during the war, the British seemed to indicate they wouldn't take such actions if the patriots would end the uprising. There is evidence, throughout history, of the winning side being ruthless after victory in an uprising, and also evidence, such as in the Civil War, of the winning side pointedly not going after the leaders of an uprising. We'll never know for sure what the English would have done.

I'm not trying to reduce what you stated; just trying to point out that it's a little more nuanced than how you presented it.

FWIW, as I indicated above, the leaders did anticipate either losing their property, being jailed, or losing their life, if the US was unsuccessful. That's why the Declaration of Independence ends with the sentence:

"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."
 
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On this day in 1776, the Second Continental Congress, assembled in Philadelphia, formally adopted Richard Henry Lee's resolution for independence from Great Britain. The vote was unanimous, with only New York abstaining.

The resolution had originally been presented to Congress on June 7, but it soon became clear that New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland and South Carolina were as yet unwilling to declare independence, though they would likely be ready to vote in favor of a break with England in due course. Thus, Congress agreed to delay the vote on Lee's Resolution until July 1. In the intervening period, Congress appointed a committee to draft a formal declaration of independence. Its members were John Adams of Massachusetts, Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania, Roger Sherman of Connecticut, Robert R. Livingston of New York and Thomas Jefferson of Virginia. Thomas Jefferson, well-known to be the best writer of the group, was selected to be the primary author of the document, which was presented to Congress for review on June 28, 1776.

On July 1, 1776, debate on the Lee Resolution resumed as planned, with a majority of the delegates favoring the resolution. Congress thought it of the utmost importance that independence be unanimously proclaimed. To ensure this, they delayed the final vote until July 2, when 12 colonial delegations voted in favor of it, with the New York delegates abstaining, unsure of how their constituents would wish them to vote. John Adams wrote that July 2 would be celebrated as the most memorable epoch in the history of America. Instead, the day has been largely forgotten in favor of July 4, when Jefferson's edited Declaration of Independence was adopted.

The words of Adams, referenced above, are from a letter he wrote to his wife, Abagail, on July 3, 1776, which said this about July 2nd:

"[Independence Day] will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival… It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade with shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this continent to the other from this Time forward forever more, ..."




^^ For the Bicentennial Celebration, in 1976, this hour was rebuilt, and is now part of Independence National Historical Park^^
Michael, is there a website from which you downloaded the draft?
 
..and they stopped at the first exit in York at Fireworks Planet to get their fireworks for the kids and their celebration in two days.

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On this day in 1776, the Second Continental Congress, assembled in Philadelphia, formally adopted Richard Henry Lee's resolution for independence from Great Britain. The vote was unanimous, with only New York abstaining.

The resolution had originally been presented to Congress on June 7, but it soon became clear that New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland and South Carolina were as yet unwilling to declare independence, though they would likely be ready to vote in favor of a break with England in due course. Thus, Congress agreed to delay the vote on Lee's Resolution until July 1. In the intervening period, Congress appointed a committee to draft a formal declaration of independence. Its members were John Adams of Massachusetts, Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania, Roger Sherman of Connecticut, Robert R. Livingston of New York and Thomas Jefferson of Virginia. Thomas Jefferson, well-known to be the best writer of the group, was selected to be the primary author of the document, which was presented to Congress for review on June 28, 1776.

On July 1, 1776, debate on the Lee Resolution resumed as planned, with a majority of the delegates favoring the resolution. Congress thought it of the utmost importance that independence be unanimously proclaimed. To ensure this, they delayed the final vote until July 2, when 12 colonial delegations voted in favor of it, with the New York delegates abstaining, unsure of how their constituents would wish them to vote. John Adams wrote that July 2 would be celebrated as the most memorable epoch in the history of America. Instead, the day has been largely forgotten in favor of July 4, when Jefferson's edited Declaration of Independence was adopted.

The words of Adams, referenced above, are from a letter he wrote to his wife, Abagail, on July 3, 1776, which said this about July 2nd:

"[Independence Day] will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival… It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade with shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this continent to the other from this Time forward forever more, ..."




^^ For the Bicentennial Celebration, in 1976, this hour was rebuilt, and is now part of Independence National Historical Park^^

This is just so difficult to imagine - but it's inspiring. For folks without a lot of time to read, are there any movies or TV shows about the Revolutionary War/Declaration of Independence that do the subject matter justice? As big of figures as Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Franklint, etc. are, I don't recall any of them getting real justice on the silver screen (well, Giamatti as Adams I heard was pretty good). Thanks for taking the time to remind us why we are who we are!

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This is just so difficult to imagine - but it's inspiring. For folks without a lot of time to read, are there any movies or TV shows about the Revolutionary War/Declaration of Independence that do the subject matter justice? As big of figures as Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Franklint, etc. are, I don't recall any of them getting real justice on the silver screen (well, Giamatti as Adams I heard was pretty good). Thanks for taking the time to remind us why we are who we are!

h6DD634EA

Liberty! The American Revolution

 
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On this day in 1776, the Second Continental Congress, assembled in Philadelphia, formally adopted Richard Henry Lee's resolution for independence from Great Britain. The vote was unanimous, with only New York abstaining.

The resolution had originally been presented to Congress on June 7, but it soon became clear that New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland and South Carolina were as yet unwilling to declare independence, though they would likely be ready to vote in favor of a break with England in due course. Thus, Congress agreed to delay the vote on Lee's Resolution until July 1. In the intervening period, Congress appointed a committee to draft a formal declaration of independence. Its members were John Adams of Massachusetts, Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania, Roger Sherman of Connecticut, Robert R. Livingston of New York and Thomas Jefferson of Virginia. Thomas Jefferson, well-known to be the best writer of the group, was selected to be the primary author of the document, which was presented to Congress for review on June 28, 1776.

On July 1, 1776, debate on the Lee Resolution resumed as planned, with a majority of the delegates favoring the resolution. Congress thought it of the utmost importance that independence be unanimously proclaimed. To ensure this, they delayed the final vote until July 2, when 12 colonial delegations voted in favor of it, with the New York delegates abstaining, unsure of how their constituents would wish them to vote. John Adams wrote that July 2 would be celebrated as the most memorable epoch in the history of America. Instead, the day has been largely forgotten in favor of July 4, when Jefferson's edited Declaration of Independence was adopted.

The words of Adams, referenced above, are from a letter he wrote to his wife, Abagail, on July 3, 1776, which said this about July 2nd:

"[Independence Day] will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival… It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade with shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this continent to the other from this Time forward forever more, ..."




^^ For the Bicentennial Celebration, in 1976, this house was rebuilt, and is now part of Independence National Historical Park^^
Thanks for the history lesson Tom McAndrew, my son's birthday. I was in class in the Hammond bld the day he was born. Picked up a pair of PSU white cotton booties downtown and headed to Wilkes Barre General.
 
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This is just so difficult to imagine - but it's inspiring. For folks without a lot of time to read, are there any movies or TV shows about the Revolutionary War/Declaration of Independence that do the subject matter justice? As big of figures as Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Franklint, etc. are, I don't recall any of them getting real justice on the silver screen (well, Giamatti as Adams I heard was pretty good). Thanks for taking the time to remind us why we are who we are!

h6DD634EA

Check out the movie, "1776." To be honest though, I was struck by the amount of singing that went on back then.
 
Check out the movie, "1776." To be honest though, I was struck by the amount of singing that went on back then.

Actually, avoid that. It doesn't just take a few really small literary licenses with the facts, it makes a massive number of inaccurate presentations, some of which are major mistakes and some of which are minor mistakes.
 
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One thing I didn't realize for a long time about the people that led the American Revolution, which in retrospect makes it more ballsy, is that if it had failed, the organizers of it would have been jailed for a long time at minimum and more likely would have been executed.
They were very much aware of that possibility, thus the final sentences in the Declaration of Independence.
 
Actually, avoid that. It doesn't just take a few really small literary licenses with the facts, it makes a massive number of inaccurate presentations, some of which are major mistakes and some of which are minor mistakes.

Twas a joke, my Lord. Hence the comment about singing.
 
There's a turd in the punch bowl.

Meh. The turds have been proclaiming America isn't special for 100+ years. The same types were fascinated with Mussolini (the benevolent fascist/socialist dictator) back then and are fascinated with Bernie Sanders and AOC today.
The US destroyed caste and class systems that dominated the world. It inherited bad ideas, like slavery. America isn't perfect, but when you look at our willingness to confront our imperfections and change vs the rest of the world, America is truly exceptional. America and it's values of freedom, democracy, and capitalism have freed and pulled more people out of poverty in 243 years than every nation in the history of the world combined.
The problem with the turds, is that their ideas truly would make the US average and the idea of it being the greatest nation, outdated. It's no wonder that the Gray Lady is in the ICU and no one really cares what the self-aggrandizing media says anymore.
 
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This is just so difficult to imagine - but it's inspiring. For folks without a lot of time to read, are there any movies or TV shows about the Revolutionary War/Declaration of Independence that do the subject matter justice? As big of figures as Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Franklint, etc. are, I don't recall any of them getting real justice on the silver screen (well, Giamatti as Adams I heard was pretty good). Thanks for taking the time to remind us why we are who we are!

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I learned most of what I know from National Treasure.

Edit: Starring Diane Kruger.

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