Just as coverage ended they showed Franklin's record
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I don’t know - tough spot Franklin and PSU is in. We have to admit he’s done a lot of good things. Improved talent base and rebuilt the program from sanctions. But can’t seem to win the big ones. Would we be any further along with those who were said to be considered for the job? Mike Munchak? Al Golden? Maybe Urban Meyer but he didn’t want to come. Is there something about PSU that is holding the program back? It’s frustrating.
It’s the coaching, he is Mike Tomlin part 2. Both win meaningless games to pat stats but can’t win the meaningful games.
He's done everything right, except the actual football coaching. I've been very critical of that area.
Honest question for the board. Let's assume identical teams on each sideline with the only difference being JF on one side and another coach on the other. What coaches in the CFB would JF beat?
I'm not making excuses for Franklin but Beliichick himself rolled up with Chuck Noll and Tim Landry can not win with those wide receivers.
I'm neither a coach nor a player, so I can't do much to deliver a win.
I am a Penn State fan, and I'm tired of other Penn State "fans" who seem obsessed with stats about losses to good teams.
Because it's a problem and we just lost to a good team yet again. Do you want other fans to be okay with always losing these games aside from a blocked kick?
Hey, you just gave me a thought. Belichick won with a PSU lacrosse player at WR. Maybe Franklin needs to see if there are any worth taking a look at.
You simply don't know when to shut up.
No wonder so many people around here get sick of your constant opinions put out as if they were wisdom.
Catch you later.
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Not many. Duzzy?
Tone for someone else to get a chance. If he goes 1-18, then try again.
Tomlin has light years better results in big games than Franklin. Hell he has owned the mighty Ravens!
I'm sorry that most of you struggle with what is plainly obvious. This is not a Jim Harbaugh equivalent. As a matter of fact, there is no equivalent to the record failure James Franklin has demonstrated on the big stage. It's historic. It's almost as if he could have done the complete opposite of all his game prep in every top 5 matchup in his entire coaching career and be better off.....that is how bad this record is (see previous comment.... HISTORIC!). You can't hide from it, you can't equivalize it, you can't diminish it.....he simply stinks in big games and there's no getting around it. It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have nearly 40 years of Paterno which presented a complete opposite paradigm. That is what really bugs me...........coaches change but the core of a program.....it's culture should always remain the same. This more than any other fact is why James Franklin has failed all of us. I hope some of you start realizing that.
The culture is undisciplined , lacking mental toughness, and unintelligent.
The opposite of the Paterno years.
Spot on Marisa45!
We need our winning culture back.
Franklin to the Gators of Gainesville!
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I'll go further. There are nearly 26 decisions I counted in this game where any Joe Schmoe average daily fan would have made a better coaching decision than James Franklin did. Is he going to fire his OC again this year? His DC? He should fall on his sword and resign. I'm not overreacting and I'm not kidding. He had a clearly better team against a demonstrably tired and beat up ND team due to it's matchup with Georgia last week and he didn't capitalize on it in any way. My best friend HS football coach called out every misstep he made throughout the game and it was eye-opening. He's an above average recruiter and a wanna be CEO of the football program but he doesn't fit our culture or our expectations and he needs to leave. Period, end of story!
James Franklin has created quite a feeder program for the NFL but how does that represent the culture of PSU? Seriously, most of you need to get a set.
James Franklin has created quite a feeder program for the NFL but how does that represent the culture of PSU? Seriously, most of you need to get a set.
Can anyone answer this simple question? Who made the call to have Drew Allar throw that pass in stead of simply running the ball out to run the clock down and then punt and send the game into over time? Did James make that play call or Andy the OC? Anyone have an idea?
Programs are defined by big games. And no big time program in America has been more embarrassing in big games than Penn State -- particularly under Big Game James.
That's why fans care.
Congrats on beating SMU and Boise and Illinois and West Virginia. Woo Hoo!
That's why fans care.
Congrats on beating SMU and Boise and Illinois and West Virginia. Woo Hoo!
A fan who doesn't care about their team winning important FB games....interesting.
Just FWIW, in how many of those games was PSU the underdog? Including last night. Franklin does a great job of winning the games he's supposed to win. He just doesn't win the games he's not supposed to win.
Respectfully, there is a big difference between players with a personal relationship saying the right things, and outsiders analyzing the situation.
Also, the fans have been living this debacle since before these players hit puberty.
That said, while I would have hoped that Allar made a better decision given in the moment given the clock/field position, I have no interest in slamming him for trying to make a play under pressure. It's the nature of sports.
Agreed. And by just about every metric (stars in high school, NFL players, projected NFL picks) ND, Oregon, and tOSU far exceed PSU.
At the end of the day, we are probably doing more with less. That means stars, across all 22 positions, and depth for injuries. ND is ND. I think they get beat, soundly, in the championship game. In other words, I think the championship is tonight (TX or tOSU). But ND is finally well-coached. They didn't make very many mistakes.
Oh for the love of God.
Spend 20 million in NIL and you can have a dolt at head coach and win the NC.
Drew Allar played without a single division one wide receiver for an entire season and took his team to 13 wins and the national semi final.
Damn right he is the reason they got there.
Damn right he is the reason they got there.
Why don't you do a little research. You might discover many and I do mean many big name coaches including Lincoln Riley, Brian Kelly, Lan Kiffin, etc. have equally bad losing records against top 5 teams!! In fact Kirby Smart is the only active coach now that Saban and Meyer retired that has a winning record against top 5 teams. Why don't you ever hear about some of these other "fraud, failures?" becasue unlike Franklin they also lose to teams they shouldn't and rarely end up playing in big games. Enough of the cheap criticism. It would be helpful to channel all that negative energy toward finding more resources (NIL) for the PSU program to work with. I'll take Franklin over any other coach out there - unless you can prior Smart away from GA (who lost to ND as well!) be thankful for consistenly strong teams that stay in the conversation every season.
I'll tell you what it's worth. Nothing to less than nothing.
Look at the way many of those games played out. How many late leads were pissed away in those games. How many times was the team unable to put together a game winning drive. How many points were left on the field due to bad plays and bad execution. It's a hallmark of Franklin's tenure here. Soft, weak, and undisciplined. And last night was just another example.
This year Franklin got lucky and ended up with the 2 easiest opponents to make the playoffs to make the semifinals. It will be the pinnacle of his career.
Recruiting is part of the job. Not having a single catch at WR (actually not even close).
Time to move on.
I've seen a ton of comments this year about how bad our WR room is. Here are the Rivals ratings for WRs currently on the roster:
5* Julian Fleming
4* Tyseer Denmark
4* Kaden Saunders
4* Anthony Ivey
4* Mehki Flowers
3* Liam Clifford
3* Omari Evans
3* Trey Wallace
3* Tyler Johnson
3* Josiah Brown
There are a few others on the roster but I got tired of looking. Stars don't mean everything obviously, but I guarantee that there are at least a few D1 receivers there.
Whatever the WR issue is, the common denominator is coaching. Our coaches recruited every single one of them or brought them in as a transfer and had at least a full year or more to coach them. The biggest head scratcher is that Franklin was a wide receivers coach at 4 different colleges and in the NFL so you would think he has some kind of clue.
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I believe the line moved in our favor like -1 before the game....might have happened after the flu rumors for ND. Either way, it was another blown opportunity.
I hear Karen Saunders is always b*tching about not getting the ball :>)
