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Just Saw Flo's Latest P4P

pabison

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Correction: This is actually the 12/1/15 P4P. Flo hasn't updated the P4P as of 12/16/15 on the website yet despite indicating they had in their email link. I thought I'd leave this up though so everyone could see the latest rankings that are actually posted while we wait on the 12/16/15 rankings to show up.

Not a bad class for PSU;)

Hall #1
Suriano #8
Manville #12

Complete listing below:

1 Sr.Mark Hall Apple Valley MN 170
2 Jr.Spencer Lee Franklin Reg PA 120
3 Sr.Nick Reenan Wy Sem PA 195
4 Sr.Alex Marinelli Graham OH 160
5 Sr.Chad Red New Palestine IN 132
6 Sr.Luke Pletcher GR Latrobe PA 132
7 Jr.Yanni Diakomihalis Hilton NY 132
8 Sr.Nick Suriano Bergen Cath.NJ126
9 Jr.Daton Fix Sand Springs OK 126
10 So.Gable Steveson Apple Valley MN 220
11 Sr.Jordan Wood Boyertown PA 220
12 Sr.Mason Manville Wy Sem PA 152
13 Sr.Luke Karam BECA PA 132
14 Jr.Vitali Arajau Syosset NY 126
 
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I think that's actually their previous HS P4P, from 12/1/15.

Flo dropped Spencer Lee from the 120 rankings this week, due to his injury. As such, I doubt that he's still in their P4P.

I've had some issues with Flo's site since they switched to the new layout on Monday. For example, if I select P4P for 2015-12-16 (i.e., the latest Flo P4P), it displays the 106 rankings. There is a complaint indicating the same problem in the Comments section of Flo, so I guess the problem isn't on my end.

Another thing that makes me doubt that it's the latest Flo P4P. In the updated rankings released this week, Pletcher and Yanni were moved to 138, as that's where they appeared this past weekend (I think it was at King of the Mountain). Yet in the P4P that's posted on Flo's site, those 2 are listed as 132. Similarly, Nick Reenan is showed in the list you posted at 195, but in Flo's rankings this week he's #1 at 182, as that's the weight he wrestled at Ironman this past weekend. Along those lines, Vitali Arajau is at 132 in this week's Flo rankings, not the 126 that's in the P4P from 12/1, and Luke Karem is at 126 in this week's Flo rankings, not the 132 that's in the P4P from 12/1.

Hall, Suriano, and Manville are still an amazing class, as they currently ranked #1 by Flo at 170, 126, and 152, respectively.
 
I can't even find the rankings on the redesigned site on my iPad. I know I was looking at them yesterday. But this morning the drop-down menu isn't working, and when I type "high school rankings" in the search box, the long list of results does not include any high school rankings.

It's too soon to condemn the redesign effort, but if they set out to make a site as glitchy as trackwrestling, this is a promising start,
 
I think that's actually their previous HS P4P, from 12/1/15.

Flo dropped Spencer Lee from the 120 rankings this week, due to his injury. As such, I doubt that he's still in their P4P.

I've had some issues with Flo's site since they switched to the new layout on Monday. For example, if I select P4P for 2015-12-16 (i.e., the latest Flo P4P), it displays the 106 rankings. There is a complaint indicating the same problem in the Comments section of Flo, so I guess the problem isn't on my end.

Another thing that makes me doubt that it's the latest Flo P4P. In the updated rankings released this week, Pletcher and Yanni were moved to 138, as that's where they appeared this past weekend (I think it was at King of the Mountain). Yet in the P4P that's posted on Flo's site, those 2 are listed as 132. Similarly, Nick Reenan is showed in the list you posted at 195, but in Flo's rankings this week he's #1 at 182, as that's the weight he wrestled at Ironman this past weekend. Along those lines, Vitali Arajau is at 132 in this week's Flo rankings, not the 126 that's in the P4P from 12/1, and Luke Karem is at 126 in this week's Flo rankings, not the 132 that's in the P4P from 12/1.

Hall, Suriano, and Manville are still an amazing class, as they currently ranked #1 by Flo at 170, 126, and 152, respectively.

Thanks Tom. I just went back and looked again and the link they provided on my email was to the 12/1/15 120 rankings even though they say it's for the latest ranking (I had to hit the dropdown to get the P4P). Here's the actual link Flo sent in the email:
http://www.flowrestling.org/ranking/5-lee-1/2015-12-01/120

When I went back to the link, I clicked on the drop down for the 12/16/15 and as you mentioned, it was the 106 rankings. They still haven't changed it to the actual P4P. I also saw the comment you mentioned where someone complained about it.

Either way, it's a great class. That group, coupled with the young talent we already have, set up well for a multi-year championship run and that's even before you factor in Spencer Lee. (Hopefully he ends up here as anticipated and he recovers well from his injury; I just hope that doesn't derail him like it did the Altons.)
 
I also think you'll see Manville jump over Wood and Suriano should move over Pletcher and maybe Yianni
 
Correction: This is actually the 12/1/15 P4P. Flo hasn't updated the P4P as of 12/16/15 on the website yet despite indicating they had in their email link. I thought I'd leave this up though so everyone could see the latest rankings that are actually posted while we wait on the 12/16/15 rankings to show up.

Not a bad class for PSU;)

Hall #1
Suriano #8
Manville #12

Complete listing below:

1 Sr.Mark Hall Apple Valley MN 170
2 Jr.Spencer Lee Franklin Reg PA 120
3 Sr.Nick Reenan Wy Sem PA 195
4 Sr.Alex Marinelli Graham OH 160
5 Sr.Chad Red New Palestine IN 132
6 Sr.Luke Pletcher GR Latrobe PA 132
7 Jr.Yanni Diakomihalis Hilton NY 132
8 Sr.Nick Suriano Bergen Cath.NJ126
9 Jr.Daton Fix Sand Springs OK 126
10 So.Gable Steveson Apple Valley MN 220
11 Sr.Jordan Wood Boyertown PA 220
12 Sr.Mason Manville Wy Sem PA 152
13 Sr.Luke Karam BECA PA 132
14 Jr.Vitali Arajau Syosset NY 126

Do I have the commitments right below? Either way, Cael and staff really did a great job grabbing the #1 126/152/170 guys out there and gives them great flexibility moving forward with the line up. We are now in reload mode

1 Sr.Mark Hall Apple Valley MN 170 Committed to Penn State
2 Jr.Spencer Lee Franklin Reg PA 120 Is this a Penn State versus Iowa battle?
3 Sr.Nick Reenan Wy Sem PA 195 Committed to Northwestern
4 Sr.Alex Marinelli Graham OH 160 Committed to Iowa
5 Sr.Chad Red New Palestine IN 132 Committed to Nebraska
6 Sr.Luke Pletcher GR Latrobe PA 132 Committed to Ohio State
7 Jr.Yanni Diakomihalis Hilton NY 132 Committed to Cornell
8 Sr.Nick Suriano Bergen Cath.NJ126 Committed to Penn State
9 Jr.Daton Fix Sand Springs OK 126 Oklahoma State's to lose?
10 So.Gable Steveson Apple Valley MN 220 Minnesota's to lose?
11 Sr.Jordan Wood Boyertown PA 220 Committed to Lehigh
12 Sr.Mason Manville Wy Sem PA 152 Committed to Penn State
13 Sr.Luke Karam BECA PA 132 Committed to Lehigh
14 Jr.Vitali Arajau Syosset NY 126 Committed to Cornell
 
Do I have the commitments right below? Either way, Cael and staff really did a great job grabbing the #1 126/152/170 guys out there and gives them great flexibility moving forward with the line up. We are now in reload mode

You got the commitments correct. The "to lose" comments are the conventional wisdom, but only time will tell.

Cornell should get kudos for locking up (so to speak) 2 of the 4 juniors on the list. PSU did a great job with this year's recruiting.
 
Do I have the commitments right below? Either way, Cael and staff really did a great job grabbing the #1 126/152/170 guys out there and gives them great flexibility moving forward with the line up. We are now in reload mode

1 Sr.Mark Hall Apple Valley MN 170 Committed to Penn State
2 Jr.Spencer Lee Franklin Reg PA 120 Is this a Penn State versus Iowa battle?
3 Sr.Nick Reenan Wy Sem PA 195 Committed to Northwestern
4 Sr.Alex Marinelli Graham OH 160 Committed to Iowa
5 Sr.Chad Red New Palestine IN 132 Committed to Nebraska
6 Sr.Luke Pletcher GR Latrobe PA 132 Committed to Ohio State
7 Jr.Yanni Diakomihalis Hilton NY 132 Committed to Cornell
8 Sr.Nick Suriano Bergen Cath.NJ126 Committed to Penn State
9 Jr.Daton Fix Sand Springs OK 126 Oklahoma State's to lose?
10 So.Gable Steveson Apple Valley MN 220 Minnesota's to lose?
11 Sr.Jordan Wood Boyertown PA 220 Committed to Lehigh
12 Sr.Mason Manville Wy Sem PA 152 Committed to Penn State
13 Sr.Luke Karam BECA PA 132 Committed to Lehigh
14 Jr.Vitali Arajau Syosset NY 126 Committed to Cornell
Still amazed we landed Hall. Amazing job by Cael and crew.
 
Do I have the commitments right below? Either way, Cael and staff really did a great job grabbing the #1 126/152/170 guys out there and gives them great flexibility moving forward with the line up. We are now in reload mode

1 Sr.Mark Hall Apple Valley MN 170 Committed to Penn State
2 Jr.Spencer Lee Franklin Reg PA 120 Is this a Penn State versus Iowa battle?
3 Sr.Nick Reenan Wy Sem PA 195 Committed to Northwestern
4 Sr.Alex Marinelli Graham OH 160 Committed to Iowa
5 Sr.Chad Red New Palestine IN 132 Committed to Nebraska
6 Sr.Luke Pletcher GR Latrobe PA 132 Committed to Ohio State
7 Jr.Yanni Diakomihalis Hilton NY 132 Committed to Cornell
8 Sr.Nick Suriano Bergen Cath.NJ126 Committed to Penn State
9 Jr.Daton Fix Sand Springs OK 126 Oklahoma State's to lose?
10 So.Gable Steveson Apple Valley MN 220 Minnesota's to lose?
11 Sr.Jordan Wood Boyertown PA 220 Committed to Lehigh
12 Sr.Mason Manville Wy Sem PA 152 Committed to Penn State
13 Sr.Luke Karam BECA PA 132 Committed to Lehigh
14 Jr.Vitali Arajau Syosset NY 126 Committed to Cornell


It's amazing how stacked things are at 132 and 126 isn't far behind. 7 of the top 14 in those two weight classes.
 
Well, that's dumb

I'm trying to think if any changes should be made from Ironman, King of the Mountain, etc.

If Lee isn't ranked at 120 (due to injury), then I believe he should come out of the P4P (though if healthy I'd have him as either #2 or #1). Beyond that, who would you change? Hall wasn't at Iornman, but he's won the tourney he was in earlier. Reenan won Ironman at 182. Marianelli won Ironman. Red wasn't at Ironman. Pletcher won King of the Mountain, at 138. I'm not sure what Yianni did last weekend. Suriano hasn't been in anything for a few weeks, as NJ has strict limits on when teams/wrestlers can wrestle (within the high school season). I don't think Fix or Steveson were at Ironman. Wood won King of the Mountain, and Manville won Ironman. Karam won at King of the Mountain. I'm not sure what Arajau did last weekend.

Other than Lee, who would you move? Unless 1 of the guys I listed as not being at Ironman or not knowing what they did last weekend actually lost, I'd be surprised if there would be any changes beyond Lee.
 
I'm trying to think if any changes should be made from Ironman, King of the Mountain, etc.

If Lee isn't ranked at 120 (due to injury), then I believe he should come out of the P4P (though if healthy I'd have him as either #2 or #1). Beyond that, who would you change? Hall wasn't at Iornman, but he's won the tourney he was in earlier. Reenan won Ironman at 182. Marianelli won Ironman. Red wasn't at Ironman. Pletcher won King of the Mountain, at 138. I'm not sure what Yianni did last weekend. Suriano hasn't been in anything for a few weeks, as NJ has strict limits on when teams/wrestlers can wrestle (within the high school season). I don't think Fix or Steveson were at Ironman. Wood won King of the Mountain, and Manville won Ironman. Karam won at King of the Mountain. I'm not sure what Arajau did last weekend.

Other than Lee, who would you move? Unless 1 of the guys I listed as not being at Ironman or not knowing what they did last weekend actually lost, I'd be surprised if there would be any changes beyond Lee.
I would move Mason over Wood (similar FS resumes and one tops their weight class currently) and probably Suriano over Luke and or Yianni, again, Suriano at the top of a weight class equally as tough as 132 and tougher than 138. Do we expect Luke to go back to 132 for states? Will be interesting to see where he/Karam/Sasso/Coy shake out, I assume Coy will go 145. 132/138/145 is just a god darn gauntlet right now in PA with all those guys plus Phillipi and Verkleeren
 
I would move Mason over Wood (similar FS resumes and one tops their weight class currently) and probably Suriano over Luke and or Yianni, again, Suriano at the top of a weight class equally as tough as 132 and tougher than 138. Do we expect Luke to go back to 132 for states? Will be interesting to see where he/Karam/Sasso/Coy shake out, I assume Coy will go 145. 132/138/145 is just a god darn gauntlet right now in PA with all those guys plus Phillipi and Verkleeren
And Hidlay at 152 could Impact decisions
 
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