Kelly Bryant transferring from Clemson
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Pitt will surely need a QB next year, no?
I don't blame Dabo for doing what he's doing.
I don't blame the kid for doing what he's doing (only have 1 chance at that level).
I don't want him on my team.
I don't blame Dabo for doing what he's doing.
I don't blame the kid for doing what he's doing (only have 1 chance at that level).
I don't want him on my team.
I know some people on here don’t like Dabo, but good on him for doing this before the 5th game. He could have drug him along so he would have a solid backup if Trevor Lawrence gets hurt.
Harbaugh is already on the line trying to horde more grad transfers
Perhaps, but I just don't know what to think about this. On one hand, I obviously respect him doing what he thinks is best for the team. However, I am not sure if I would be ok with this if Franklin did it.
I guess in a way, I have a problem with treating the kids as a commodity, but also from a football standpoint, there is something to be said for about having a proven leader at the helm. Dabo has no idea how Lawrence will react under pressure. He knows how Kelly will react.
Yes, I respect that he did it when he did it, but I dunno, some things are more important than football.
Bryant's only lost 1 game as a starter. I know Lawrence is reportedly uber talented, but I think Dabo's taking a risk here. Plus he loses his backup.
I still don't understand how this is all going to work with this new rule. Since schools have been in session for a month already how could he transfer now and still complete the academic session? Will he be going to a JC and complete the year there and then transfer back to a D1 school?
Why stop at two QBs? Jimbo will have an offense which uses 11 grad transfer QBs at the same time.
I don’t really see this as Dabo treating Bryant as a commodity; in fact, I see it as just the opposite. At the end of the day, Dabo made the decision (whether it’s the correct one or not will manifest soon enough on the field) that Lawrence is going to be the starter from now on, and that Bryant would lose his starting job. So, he has a conversation with Bryant, tells him of the decision, and does it at a time that still gives Bryant the best opportunity for himself to preserve as much eligibility as possible if he chose to go elsewhere. I’m sure if Bryant had said “I appreciate you telling me I’m no longer the guy, coach, but I love Clemson and want to stay and help the team in whatever role I can” then Dabo would have welcomed that with open arms.
I’m no fan of Dabo, but I see this as him making a difficult decision in a way that’s as fair as possible to the guy losing the job. Whether it’s the right on-field decision? We’ll see soon enough.
1. bad for college football. i have no idea why the NCAA is essentially putting rules in place that make it like free agency. coaching staffs and admins don't want it so who is driving this at the ncaa above their objections. always got to follow the money with ncaa but who in the ncaa is making money on this.
2. saw lawrence play a little bit last weekend and wow is all i can say. he had on play where he was scrambling out of the pocket to his left (he is right handed). squared up his shoulders on the run and through a touch pass about 25 yards to a guy in the corner of the end zone that was an incredibly tough pass, tight window, on the run, required touch and it was perfect. his mechanics were unreal and that pass only a few college QBs can make. so i see the potential there.
2. saw lawrence play a little bit last weekend and wow is all i can say. he had on play where he was scrambling out of the pocket to his left (he is right handed). squared up his shoulders on the run and through a touch pass about 25 yards to a guy in the corner of the end zone that was an incredibly tough pass, tight window, on the run, required touch and it was perfect. his mechanics were unreal and that pass only a few college QBs can make. so i see the potential there.
He's not transferring now since he's already graduated. He'll just drop out of school then enroll at a new school for the spring semester.
You do realize that the new redshirt rule is because the coaches have been begging for it right?
This was more in general as not all of them who will be transferring will be Srs
What coaches will keep an eye on is whether the undergraduate transfers who leave in midseason—such as receiver Nate Craig-Myers, who left Auburn last week—receive waivers from the NCAA to play right away. At the moment, such players have little incentive to leave midseason because while they may get a redshirt for this season, they still would have to sit out all or part of next season. (Remember, quarterback Blake Barnett left Alabama during the 2016 season and enrolled quickly at Arizona State so that he’d be eligible midseason in 2017.)
https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/09/25/ncaa-redshirt-rule-jalen-hurts-kelly-bryant
Thus far, Clemson has played Furman, TAMU, GaSouthern, and GaTech (who lost to Pitt)
Against the one team with a pulse (TAMU) Lawrence's first pass was a "jump ball" (LOL) to a big WR, who went up and caught the ball over a smaller defender, broke two tackles, and turned a short play into a long TD. After that, Lawrence did squadoosh.
He may be a great QB before it is all done - - - - and Clemson's ENTIRE SCHEDULE is essentially a scrimmage until the "Final Four" (their only ranked opponent is Duke.... LOL Sorry Dukie) - - - - what a joke.
I am sure the talking heads will all be spooging themselves over Lawrence (and Clemson) as the season goes along, but Clemson will have proven absolutely nothing unless and until they face a decent team on the Final Four.
Sat, Sept 1 Furman W 48-7
Sat, Sept 8 Texas A&M W 28-26
Sat, Sept 15 Ga Southern W 38-7
Sat, Sept 22 Georgia Tech W 49-21
Sat, Sept 29 Syracuse
Sat, Oct 6 Wake Forest
Sat, Oct 20 NC State
Sat, Oct 27 Florida State
Sat, Nov 3 Louisville
Sat, Nov 10 Boston College
Sat, Nov 17 #22 Duke
Sat, Nov 24 S Carolina
+10000
If Clemson doesn't win out, they shouldn't be in the playoff. Not to say that they won't be because of ESPN, but it would be absurd to most logical people.
i am not talking about the redshirt rule, i am talking about if they let him play immediately next year by leaving after a few games. what bryant did is go through a loophole as a grad transfer but there are kids doing this as underclass. also you have heard rumbling of not sitting out a year at all as underclassmen and transferring.
If the NCAA keeps handing out waivers like strip club flyers in Vegas then you have a problem.
Don't believe he has to actually drop out of the semester - does have to quit the football program (which he has already done according to the article), but believe he can complete his academic semester at Clemson if he so chooses and transfer for the Winter/Spring Semester at new school of his choice (vast majority of schools start this Semester after Christmas/Winter Break).
Unless he seriously has grad degree goals (most grad transfers don't) I'd expect him to drop out.
I think it's a very difficult decision without a right answer. Clemson undoubtedly is better with Bryant remaining as the backup. As a coach, do you say I owe it to the team to make us as good as possible and that means keeping Bryant on the roster or do you say Bryant deserves a chance to leave and play somewhere else? Tough one.
Thus far, Clemson has played Furman, TAMU, GaSouthern, and GaTech (who lost to Pitt)
Against the one team with a pulse (TAMU) Lawrence's first pass was a "jump ball" (LOL) to a big WR, who went up and caught the ball over a smaller defender, broke two tackles, and turned a short play into a long TD. After that, Lawrence did squadoosh.
He may be a great QB before it is all done - - - - and Clemson's ENTIRE SCHEDULE is essentially a scrimmage until the "Final Four" (their only ranked opponent is Duke.... LOL Sorry Dukie
I am sure the talking heads will all be spooging themselves over Lawrence (and Clemson) as the season goes along, but Clemson will have proven absolutely nothing unless and until they face a decent team on the Final Four.
Sat, Sept 1 Furman W 48-7
Sat, Sept 8 Texas A&M W 28-26
Sat, Sept 15 Ga Southern W 38-7
Sat, Sept 22 Georgia Tech W 49-21
Sat, Sept 29 Syracuse
Sat, Oct 6 Wake Forest
Sat, Oct 20 NC State
Sat, Oct 27 Florida State
Sat, Nov 3 Louisville
Sat, Nov 10 Boston College
Sat, Nov 17 #22 Duke
Sat, Nov 24 S Carolina
what are you babbling about. if you watched lawrence play at all and cannot see some crazy talent then you don't know football. and it was beyond a Morelli/Hack arm talent, you could see that obviously but could also see some very nice pocket presence. same as when you saw trace that first time the way he moved in the pocket to avoid pressure, never saw that with hack and Morelli for example. if you are saying that based on the limited passes thrown that we cannot put him on the Mt.Rushmore of Qb's with Montana, Brady, and Favre then I think most would agree but who was saying that.
Besides the ridiculous PSU connection, I feel for this kid. There are many, that would say best man plays, bottom line. While I agree I also think this is a very harsh policy sometimes. Dabo has done a good job. He offered the kid to stay on and not play him, thus preserving his eligibility. Kid chose otherwise. I don’t think I would have made the change. I know this is high stakes but it’s also high stakes for this kids future. I’m sure he has hopes of the pros but recruiting and playing a freshman to oust your q.b. is a tough pill to swallow.
You believe wrong. Under the new rule Bryant could have remained on the football team and if he did not appear in a game for the rest of the season would have been classified as a redshirt.
As for remaining in school this semester, or next semester, that's between him and Dabo. It's entirely moot since he graduated in May.
ehh, Clemson may have reached out to the staff but we have some very, very good QB's currently on the team and ready some more that are ready to sign.
So it would probably be best if looked elsewhere, maybe ND or michy, they seem to change QB's like socks.
zero chance he winds up at PSU. So he would come to PSU to battle a 5th year senior QB who has looked really good, a redshirt sophomore QB that has looked good, and three other freshman QB's. He'll transfer to a location that has a graduating senior QB or a place where he is gauranteed a starting spot a lo the Michigan QB patterson this past year.
I agree, it is a challenge. It also feels like this is where things are given the insane amount of talent out there and the crazy pressure to win. Think about Kirby Smart recruiting Justin Fields with the promise to play if he won the job from Jake Fromm after the stellar job he did last year. Could have been a similar situation to Clemson and Bryant. How do you manage it well? I even heard that Field's dad was pressuring Smart for more playing time for his kid. There probably is no right answer.
Dabo saw Bryant's performance vs Alabama last year in the playoff. He knows he needs a better arm running the offense or else winning another title is not happening. The schedule is favorable. Lawrence has the arm and plenty of upside.
We are heading for this eventually (perhaps as soon as next year). It's not likely to unfold as seniority would lead one to believe. How will we handle it?
We are heading for this eventually (perhaps as soon as next year). It's not likely to unfold as seniority would lead one to believe. How will we handle it?
They're doing it because they want Jeff Kessler to only hand them half their ass when his case comes to trial.
Thus far, Clemson has played Furman, TAMU, GaSouthern, and GaTech (who lost to Pitt)
Against the one team with a pulse (TAMU) Lawrence's first pass was a "jump ball" (LOL) to a big WR, who went up and caught the ball over a smaller defender, broke two tackles, and turned a short play into a long TD. After that, Lawrence did squadoosh.
He may be a great QB before it is all done - - - - and Clemson's ENTIRE SCHEDULE is essentially a scrimmage until the "Final Four" (their only ranked opponent is Duke.... LOL Sorry Dukie
I am sure the talking heads will all be spooging themselves over Lawrence (and Clemson) as the season goes along, but Clemson will have proven absolutely nothing unless and until they face a decent team on the Final Four.
Sat, Sept 1 Furman W 48-7
Sat, Sept 8 Texas A&M W 28-26
Sat, Sept 15 Ga Southern W 38-7
Sat, Sept 22 Georgia Tech W 49-21
Sat, Sept 29 Syracuse
Sat, Oct 6 Wake Forest
Sat, Oct 20 NC State
Sat, Oct 27 Florida State
Sat, Nov 3 Louisville
Sat, Nov 10 Boston College
Sat, Nov 17 #22 Duke
Sat, Nov 24 S Carolina
Ridiculous easy schedule that is. Every team in top 15 would go unbeaten with that joke.
Clemson with another auto bid to playoffs.
Thus far, Clemson has played Furman, TAMU, GaSouthern, and GaTech (who lost to Pitt)
Against the one team with a pulse (TAMU) Lawrence's first pass was a "jump ball" (LOL) to a big WR, who went up and caught the ball over a smaller defender, broke two tackles, and turned a short play into a long TD. After that, Lawrence did squadoosh.
He may be a great QB before it is all done - - - - and Clemson's ENTIRE SCHEDULE is essentially a scrimmage until the "Final Four" (their only ranked opponent is Duke.... LOL Sorry Dukie
I am sure the talking heads will all be spooging themselves over Lawrence (and Clemson) as the season goes along, but Clemson will have proven absolutely nothing unless and until they face a decent team on the Final Four.
Sat, Sept 1 Furman W 48-7
Sat, Sept 8 Texas A&M W 28-26
Sat, Sept 15 Ga Southern W 38-7
Sat, Sept 22 Georgia Tech W 49-21
Sat, Sept 29 Syracuse
Sat, Oct 6 Wake Forest
Sat, Oct 20 NC State
Sat, Oct 27 Florida State
Sat, Nov 3 Louisville
Sat, Nov 10 Boston College
Sat, Nov 17 #22 Duke
Sat, Nov 24 S Carolina
Everybody presumes fsu will be highly ranked and that beating them will matter. They also presume TAMU will be in the 12-22 zone and that Miami or VT will win big and be in the top 10.
Oooops.
They need to run the table or they're out. BTW, if Lawrence goes down, it's likely they will be thrilled with the schedule... they'll need it. Hard dealing with rooting for cuse, though.
Different situation for us. Stevens already used his redshirt. Even if Clifford beat him out, next season is Tommy's last season of football in college. This scenario can only play out if the player hasn't burned the redshirt previously.
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