Kerk and the Hodge Race

[NittanyChris]

Does anyone else think Kerk has moved up the standings substantially in the Hodge race? Especially in the dominance category, he’s simply destroying everyone in his path while KOT, Starocci and even Brooks have had some closer matches of late. Thoughts?

 

[Reslo]

Does anyone else think Kerk has moved up the standings substantially in the Hodge race? Especially in the dominance category, he’s simply destroying everyone in his path while KOT, Starocci and even Brooks have had some closer matches of late. Thoughts?

Maybe he's moved up in the 'standings', if there is such a thing for Hodge voting. But there is no chance he wins it unless he goes undefeated, and both Brooks and Starocci take a loss somewhere. If Brooks and Starocci are undefeated 4X champs, they'll split the award.

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

Wrestlestat keeps the standings updated.

 

[eddy line]

Wrestlestat keeps the standings updated.

Here's their latest:

#1	#1 Keegan O'Toole	#5 Missouri	14-0	165	3587.55
#2	#1 Carter Starocci	#1 Penn State	10-0	174	3568.08
#3	#1 Aaron Brooks	#1 Penn State	11-0	197	3563.70
#4	#2 Wyatt Hendrickson	#46 Air Force	17-0	285	3509.62
#5	#2 Trent Hidlay	#7 NC State	19-0	197	3489.26
#6	#1 Ridge Lovett	#9 Nebraska	20-0	149	3484.72
#7	#2 Daton Fix	#2 Oklahoma State	11-0	133	3480.48
#8	#1 Parker Keckeisen	#12 Northern Iowa	18-0	184	3475.93
#9	#1 Greg Kerkvliet	#1 Penn State	10-0	285	3463.41
#10	#3 Levi Haines	#1 Penn State	12-0	157	3463.23
#11	#1 Beau Bartlett	#1 Penn State	15-0	141	3459.35
#12	#5 Mitchell Mesenbrink	#1 Penn State	16-0	165	3448.43

 

[NittanyChris]

Maybe he's moved up in the 'standings', if there is such a thing for Hodge voting. But there is no chance he wins it unless he goes undefeated, and both Brooks and Starocci take a loss somewhere. If Brooks and Starocci are undefeated 4X champs, they'll split the award.

Traditionally, past years’ performance has been taken into account, however, is that technically in the Hodge criteria?
Wrestlestat currently has Kerk at #9 in the “Hodge Watch”. That definitely seems a bit low to me.

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

Traditionally, past years’ performance has been taken into account, however, is that technically in the Hodge criteria?
Wrestlestat currently has Kerk at #9 in the “Hodge Watch”. That definitely seems a bit low to me.

Its a popularity contest bro, they are gonna vote in whoever the hell they want anyway and it aint gonna be DGK.

 

[PSU_Pride_93]

Traditionally, past years’ performance has been taken into account, however, is that technically in the Hodge criteria?
Wrestlestat currently has Kerk at #9 in the “Hodge Watch”. That definitely seems a bit low to me.

I believe they did away with past years performance and it’s now (4) criteria.
1. Record
2. Dominance/Bonus point %
3. Quality of Comp
4. Sportsmanship

 

[Sullivan]

Here's their latest:

#1	#1 Keegan O'Toole	#5 Missouri	14-0	165	3587.55
#2	#1 Carter Starocci	#1 Penn State	10-0	174	3568.08
#3	#1 Aaron Brooks	#1 Penn State	11-0	197	3563.70
#4	#2 Wyatt Hendrickson	#46 Air Force	17-0	285	3509.62
#5	#2 Trent Hidlay	#7 NC State	19-0	197	3489.26
#6	#1 Ridge Lovett	#9 Nebraska	20-0	149	3484.72
#7	#2 Daton Fix	#2 Oklahoma State	11-0	133	3480.48
#8	#1 Parker Keckeisen	#12 Northern Iowa	18-0	184	3475.93
#9	#1 Greg Kerkvliet	#1 Penn State	10-0	285	3463.41
#10	#3 Levi Haines	#1 Penn State	12-0	157	3463.23
#11	#1 Beau Bartlett	#1 Penn State	15-0	141	3459.35
#12	#5 Mitchell Mesenbrink	#1 Penn State	16-0	165	3448.43

It will be tough for O'Toole to win the Hodge, with a loss at NCAA's.

 

[El-Jefe]

There are only 2 contestants in this pageant. 4x champs don't grow on trees.

 

[NittanyChris]

There are only 2 contestants in this pageant. 4x champs don't grow on trees.

If that’s truly the case, is AB leading by a hair right now?

 

[El-Jefe]

If that’s truly the case, is AB leading by a hair right now?

Who knows. The categories aren't weighted so the voters can do whatever they want.

 

[MikeDerukey]

There are only 2 contestants in this pageant. 4x champs don't grow on trees.

Yianni has entered the chat. There is certainly precedent for Carter and Aaron to not win it this year if they both win their 4th.

 

[tikk10]

Yianni has entered the chat. There is certainly precedent for Carter and Aaron to not win it this year if they both win their 4th.

Yianni opened last season with a loss. Presumably Carter and Aaron will be undefeated heading into Saturday night.

 

[MikeDerukey]

Yianni opened last season with a loss. Presumably Carter and Aaron will be undefeated heading into Saturday night.

You know, I forgot about his loss to Austin Gomez until you mentioned it here. An undefeated Carter or Aaron would not be an apples to apples comparison to Yianni last year. You make a valid point.

 

[PSUwrestling]

Yianni opened last season with a loss. Presumably Carter and Aaron will be undefeated heading into Saturday night.

If they both win their 4th undefeated it’s hard to take a side. Both have been epic their entire careers. Both are moving through what can only be called a challenging process with grace. Providing their team with an outstanding example. It’s really hard to say who is more deserving. Who has had a harder path? Beating Lewis with a broken hand or beating Amine after he got a bronze in the Olympics. These guys are just outstanding and it should go to both.

 

[PSUwrestling]

P.S. I just rewatched Carter v Kennedy. Carter was clearly done by the middle of the second period. The TD at the end of the second was just pure Carter toughness/virtuosity. The fact that he toed the line in Carver for his team that under the weather is just more proof of how lucky we have been to have him.