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I'm plan on attending Keystone Classic and remember seeing some recommendations on parking during to the Philadelphia Marathon being run the same time. Suggestions on parking?
Also is it assigned seating or general admission.?
Are there breaks between sessions and if so a recommended watering hole nearby?
Thanks.
 
I'm plan on attending Keystone Classic and remember seeing some recommendations on parking during to the Philadelphia Marathon being run the same time. Suggestions on parking?
Also is it assigned seating or general admission.?
Are there breaks between sessions and if so a recommended watering hole nearby?
Thanks.
General admission and there is a break between session. Several places to eat nearby
 
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Would it not make sense for Berge to wrestle tournaments @ 157 all year and spell Jason a few nights against the bottom dwellers of the conference? I see this as a viable option as opposed to being on a rigorous descent plan in order to challenge a guy who looks very capable of holding down the spot at 149.

I completely understand that blue chip kids want to wrestle, but if the plan is for him to go 157 next year, why not start now? He'll get 100X the wrestling education in our room than he will ever get wrestling kids from Bucknell or Buffalo. He'll still have 3 years to start here. On our team being a 3 year starter is no small feat.
 
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Would it not make sense for Berge to wrestle tournaments @ 157 all year and spell Jason a few nights against the bottom dwellers of the conference? I see this as a viable option as opposed to being on a rigorous descent plan in order to challenge a guy who looks very capable of holding down the spot at 149.

I completely understand that blue chip kids want to wrestle, but if the plan is for him to go 157 next year, why not start now? He'll get 100X the wrestling education in our room than he will ever get wrestling kids from Bucknell or Buffalo. He'll still have 3 years to start here. On our team being a 3 year starter is no small feat.
Would you want to voluntarily sit the bench in March? That is why Berge is going 149, he wants to wrestle in March.
 
Would you want to voluntarily sit the bench in March? That is why Berge is going 149, he wants to wrestle in March.

I get it. These guys are highly competitive athletes. If he can handle the weight that's fine. If cutting becomes an issue, why force it? Be strong at 157 and prepare for next season.
 
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awesome! I look forward to seeing you there!

there wasn't a PSU section two years ago -- PSU fans were spread all over the place. Roar, NoVa and I were located midcourt (so to speak), down pretty low. That's where I expect to be this year as well. I couldn't attend last year, so I hope Roar and NoVa will pipe in to indicate where they sat last year.
Mid-court (so to speak) last year, but didn't get the railing...probably 3 or 4 rows back. No bad seats in the place, really.
 
Would you want to voluntarily sit the bench in March? That is why Berge is going 149, he wants to wrestle in March.

I get it. These guys are highly competitive athletes. If he can handle the weight that's fine. If cutting becomes an issue, why force it? Be strong at 157 and prepare for next season.
He's at 149 now. He's a gamer, 149 will be fun to watch play out, as we have two solid guys. "Handling" the weight cut is a choice...nutrition-wise, sleep-wise, study-wise, and a few other-wise's. Not going 149 was never an option.
 
I get it. These guys are highly competitive athletes. If he can handle the weight that's fine. If cutting becomes an issue, why force it? Be strong at 157 and prepare for next season.
Nick Lee didn't back up Zain last year either. Before Cortez got hurt.

Your assumption that Berge's cut is too hard, maybe isn't accurate.
 
I get it. These guys are highly competitive athletes. If he can handle the weight that's fine. If cutting becomes an issue, why force it? Be strong at 157 and prepare for next season.
If cutting becomes an issue, he will not be able to hold off Verklerren. Even if cutting is an issue and he can hold off Verklerren, Berge would then be the best wrestler at 149. Of course Berge and Verklerren have to wrestle off yet, probably multiple times.

If the cut is too much, Berge will be over it by the end of April, back to full strength by then.
 
My opinion is Berge has already sized up Verk and in his mind he can beat him, otherwise why take on the challenge. I also think during his recruiting and certainly last year as a RS, he saw 149 as his chance for 4 years of competing at the NCs. So this whole thing was in the plans long ago. Lastly, on this I think Berge once the interviews start coming out will come across very poised, respectful of the opportunity he has and focused in all things. I believe he is the kind of kid we are used to around these parts, that lives the life on and off the mat.

Not saying Verk isnt just as great, its just first world problems having them both. Assuming things go as predicted Verk will have 149 to himself next year. A RS under his belt, two years in the room and varsity experience along with probably traveling to all the away matches bonding with the team.

Making #2020 all that more competitive, and not just handing the title to the hawks who have been patiently waiting.:D:eek::oops::rolleyes::po_O:)

To start the year I thought Berge would wrestle 157 here early on in November and then go down to 149 for the scuffle. That said, I think the way its being done is best by both wrestlers. Berge holding the weight through the holidays and assuming a great showing the scuffle will prove that the cut isnt a problem. If it is, it will show and then wrestlers/coaches have the time from Jan-March to figure which guy takes the mat. Verk and Berge could share the starts in Jan/Feb on the Fri/Sunday swings allowing the constant cut to not be so bad on Berge, IF it even is.

We all know the winter flu season, injuries, BS and other stuff happen. So this to me is almost the perfect situation and just another example of the riches Cael and staff have assembled over an amazing run.

Ging & Lawson
Alton & English
Shak & Tony
Etc & Etc

#ItrustinCael
 
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Nick Lee didn't back up Zain last year either. Before Cortez got hurt.

Your assumption that Berge's cut is too hard, maybe isn't accurate.
Not to mention that once you have already redshirted why on earth would you not wrestle-off and place the best wrestler at 149. We don’t know who that is yet? Let the other guy back up 49 and 57 if you want.
 
My opinion is Berge has already sized up Verk and in his mind he can beat him, otherwise why take on the challenge. I also think during his recruiting and certainly last year as a RS, he saw 149 as his chance for 4 years of competing at the NCs. So this whole thing was in the plans long ago. Lastly, on this I think Berge once the interviews start coming out will come across very poised, respectful of the opportunity he has and focused in all things. I believe he is the kind of kid we are used to around these parts, that lives the life on and off the mat.

Not saying Verk isnt just as great, its just first world problems having them both. Assuming things go as predicted Verk will have 149 to himself next year. A RS under his belt, two years in the room and varsity experience along with probably traveling to all the away matches bonding with the team.

Making #2020 all that more competitive, and not just handing the title to the hawks who have been patiently waiting.:D:eek::oops::rolleyes::po_O:)

To start the year I thought Berge would wrestle 157 here early on in November and then go down to 149 for the scuffle. That said, I think the way its being done is best by both wrestlers. Berge holding the weight through the holidays and assuming a great showing the scuffle will prove that the cut isnt a problem. If it is, it will show and then wrestlers/coaches have the time from Jan-March to figure which guy takes the mat. Verk and Berge could share the starts in Jan/Feb on the Fri/Sunday swings allowing the constant cut to not be so bad on Berge, IF it even is.

We all know the winter flu season, injuries, BS and other stuff happen. So this to me is almost the perfect situation and just another example of the riches Cael and staff have assembled over an amazing run.

Ging & Lawson
Alton & English
Shak & Tony
Etc & Etc

#ItrustinCael
You are waaaaay overthinking this Dandy.

2 kids at 49. Wrestle off and whatever other criteria is used to determine best guy and that one goes.
 
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I'm with you, and don't think this is the case here but will point out some people have sized up Jason and decided to change weights.


To be fair to Micah, I think his body parts and self-esteem made the decision for him. During the internal debate, his neck was overheard saying, “y’all do what you want, but I ain’t doing that Nolf shyte again.”
 
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If worried about parking/congestion near Upenn, park outside city and use SEPTA. We have a few of us taking train up from Wilmington, DE. University City stop is 1 block from Arena. 30th St Station is about 7 blocks.

All GA Seating, we have attended last 3 and there are usually plenty of good seats.
 
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To be fair to Micah, I think his body parts and self-esteem made the decision for him. During the internal debate, his neck was overheard saying, “y’all do what you want, but I ain’t doing that Nolf shyte again.”

The good news is Micah isn’t Suriano or right now he would be daring Nolf to drop weight to come and get him. o_O
 
Would it not make sense for Berge to wrestle tournaments @ 157 all year and spell Jason a few nights against the bottom dwellers....

The Nolfinator has records to break and hardware to collect at year end.

We're witnessing greatness...do you really want that to take a night off?

Spell Jason...that's crazy talk :)
 
Would it not make sense for Berge to wrestle tournaments @ 157 all year and spell Jason a few nights against the bottom dwellers of the conference? I see this as a viable option as opposed to being on a rigorous descent plan in order to challenge a guy who looks very capable of holding down the spot at 149.

I completely understand that blue chip kids want to wrestle, but if the plan is for him to go 157 next year, why not start now? He'll get 100X the wrestling education in our room than he will ever get wrestling kids from Bucknell or Buffalo. He'll still have 3 years to start here. On our team being a 3 year starter is no small feat.


I’ll hold your beer while you have that sit-down with Nolfinator & explain to him he’s not wrestling tonight.

Good luck with that.
 
This is aimed at fans considering attending for the 1st time by driving into town, don't. As Jbolt noted check weekend train schedule.

You can take the regional rail to Suburban Station and walk from there. That said, it is very important that you check the weekend schedule for whatever line you take into the city to ensure that you have plenty of time.

The Inquirer has a good information piece on road closures this morning.

http://www.philly.com/philly/health...lphia_Marathon_Route_and_Street_Closures.html

www.septa.org/schedules/rail/
 
Can walk from University City or 30th St regional rail.

Suburban Station is at 15th, can walk on a nice day which this probably won't be.
 
Would it not make sense for Berge to wrestle tournaments @ 157 all year and spell Jason a few nights against the bottom dwellers of the conference? I see this as a viable option as opposed to being on a rigorous descent plan in order to challenge a guy who looks very capable of holding down the spot at 149.

I completely understand that blue chip kids want to wrestle, but if the plan is for him to go 157 next year, why not start now? He'll get 100X the wrestling education in our room than he will ever get wrestling kids from Bucknell or Buffalo. He'll still have 3 years to start here. On our team being a 3 year starter is no small feat.
Yep. All potential AAs are all about skipping a year of starting.
 
Can walk from University City or 30th St regional rail.

Suburban Station is at 15th, can walk on a nice day which this probably won't be.
Real easy walk from 30th Street Station. Taking the train into the city myself, same as the last couple years. Right now, Accuweather has it in the high 30's when I trek over to the Palestra. Not bad at all...no rain or snow in the forecast.
 
Drove in last year and marathon was same as is this year and we had no trouble really of any significance finding parking..

Same. I've driven the past two years and haven't had any issues with the marathon. I made the rookie mistake of parking in the museum garage two years ago and spent forever trying to get out at the end of the day. Do whatever you can to avoid that garage! The train is a great option, and there is plenty of safe on-street parking reasonably close to the Palestra.
 
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Maybe the day will go quickly, and we'll be able to catch the 6:55pm from 30th to Lancaster. Although, hanging out at Sainte Pub last year, right by the 30th Street Station, waiting for the 9:45 wasn't all that bad either. Of course, my first post on this board (long time reader) is about hanging out at a Pub right after watching wrestling.
 
Maybe the day will go quickly, and we'll be able to catch the 6:55pm from 30th to Lancaster. Although, hanging out at Sainte Pub last year, right by the 30th Street Station, waiting for the 9:45 wasn't all that bad either. Of course, my first post on this board (long time reader) is about hanging out at a Pub right after watching wrestling.
I had my train times to 30th street station and back all lined up, then saw that the Classic will be streamed on ESPN+. 5 bucks a month, AND I get to eat my high-fat buffet from my couch? Love it!
 
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Same. I've driven the past two years and haven't had any issues with the marathon. I made the rookie mistake of parking in the museum garage two years ago and spent forever trying to get out at the end of the day. Do whatever you can to avoid that garage! The train is a great option, and there is plenty of safe on-street parking reasonably close to the Palestra.
Whatever the problem was two years ago, it was fixed last year. Got out of there with no problem.
 
lol, welcome. appears that you've found the right place to hang out. You can juggle around the order, but alcohol, food, sex, and wrestling are at the top of the list for most of the folks on this board. :D:D
I know one well, spend to much on another, can’t get enough of another, and one has become boring.

$83 question is which is which?
 
Of course, my first post on this board (long time reader) is about hanging out at a Pub right after watching wrestling.

lol, welcome. appears that you've found the right place to hang out. You can juggle around the order, but alcohol, food, sex, and wrestling are at the top of the list for most of the folks on this board. :D:D
Some of us would like to have at least 83% of the posts be about wrestling, but that's not gonna happen.

Welcome aboard OldPAwrestler!!
 
From U. Penn's website:

PHILADELPHIA – The 23rd Keystone Classic is set for November 18 inside The Palestra as Penn Wrestling once again is home to a key early-season proving ground for Division I wrestling.

10 teams will take to the mats on Sunday. Joining the host Quakers will be defending NCAA champion Penn State, Appalachian State, Drexel, Duke, Franklin & Marshall, Harvard, Rider, Sacred Heart, and VMI.

All six mats of the Keystone Classic will be streamed live via ESPN+. Live match updates, brackets and team scores will be available via FloArena.

Wrestling begins at 10 a.m. in The Palestra.

125 Pounds
2017 Champion: Sebastian Rivera (Northwestern)
A wide open weight class with no Top-20 wrestlers entered, 125 could be a proving ground for wrestlers looking to make some early-season noise. Drexel's freshman Antonio Mininno is on the radar following an 8-7 loss to No. 5 Zeke Moisey (Nebraska). Similarly, Penn's freshman Carmen Ferrante had a solid start to his career with a loss to No. 12 RayVon Foley (Michigan State) followed by a run to fifth place at the MSU Open. Rider's Jonathan Tropea was third at the Keystone Classic last year, and is the highest-finishing returner.

133 Pounds
2017 Champion: Austin DeSanto (Drexel)
With the defending champion now plying his trade at Iowa, the crown is up for grabs at 133. Penn State's Roman Bravo-Young is looking to continue his ascent into PSU's lineup. After an undefeated high school career, Bravo-Young pinned his opponent in his first career match last weekend. Penn's Doug Zapf was 2-2 in his first competition at the Michigan State Open and is a former PIAA state champion. Rider's Anthon Cefolo was fifth at Keystone last season.

141 Pounds:
2017 Champion: Jered Cortez (Penn State)
Yet another wide open weight class as all six placewinners from 2017 have moved on. Leading the group is No. 5 Nick Lee of Penn State. A 2018 All-American, Lee came out of redshirt in January to finish fifth at NCAAs. Appalachian State's Irvin Enriquez was a NCAA qualifier last season. Duke's Josh Finesilver was a NCAA qualifier and third at Keystone at 133 pounds last season, and is up a weight in 2018-19. Penn's Grant Aronoff is expected to make his collegiate debut – was ranked No. 39 overall by InterMat and No. 2 at 138 pounds last season in high school.

149 Pounds
2017 Champion: Zain Retherford (Penn State)
Another defending champion has graduated in the form of Zain Retherford. The Nittany Lion was champion at both Keystone and NCAAs last year. Duke's No. 10 Mitch Finesilver leads the field, he was 2-2 at NCAAs at 157 last season. Penn State has a group looking to take over for Retherford, led by redshirt freshman Jarod Verkleeren. The former PIAA champion at 145 picked up a pin in his first dual meet last weekend. Brady Berge, a three-time Minnesota state champ and a bronze medalist this summer at the UWW Junior World Championships, is also in the mix. The home team has a factor in Anthony Artalona. A three-time Fargo champ, Artalona was ranked No. 21 by InterMat in the Class of 2018 and No. 32 by Flowrestling. In his collegiate debut, he went 4-0 to win the MSU Open.

157 Pounds
2017 Champion: Jason Nolf (Penn State)
The defending NCAA champion and Keystone Classic champion returns to headline this weight as the No. 1 wrestler in the country. Appalachian State's Matt Zovistoksi returns from a redshirt year – where he won the National Collegiate Open at 157 – and is up a weight. Two years ago at 149, he went 2-2 at NCAAs following a SoCon championship. Harvard's Hunter Ladnier was a NCAA qualifier at 149 in 2017, and took fifth at EIWAs last year. Penn's Joe Oliva was a two-year starter at 149 and is up a weight. Teammate Jon Errico was fourth at Keystone last season.

165 Pounds
2017 Champion: Chad Walsh (Rider)
Two-time NCAA champion Vincenzo Joseph of Penn State leads this field as the No. 1 wrestler in the country. Drexel's Ebed Jarrell entered the Top-20 this week at No. 17 following a 3-0 record at the Northeast Duals which included a 6-3 win over Nebraska's Isaiah White. Duke's Zach Finesilver was a NCAA qualifier last season. Harvard's Joshua Kim was a 2018 California state champion for Santiago High School.

174 Pounds
2017 Champion: Mark Hall (Penn State)
Defending Keystone champ Mark Hall enters the weekend ranked No. 2 in the country. The junior was runner-up at NCAAs last year after winning it all as a freshman. Duke adds another Finesilver to the mix at 174 in No. 18 Matt Finesilver – he was a NCAA qualifier and was fifth at Keystone last season. Rider's Dean Sherry is a third returning NCAA qualifier from last season in the field this weekend. Penn State also will enter Mason Manville – a member of the U.S. junior and cadet national teams in both Greco and freestyle.

184 Pounds
2017 Champion: Bo Nickal (Penn State)
With Bo Nickal moved up to 197, there's an opening for a new champion at 184. His teammate, No. 5 Shakur Rasheed, is the likely top seed. An All-American at 197 last season, Rasheed is down a weight for the new campaign. Appalachian State's Alan Clothier was third at Keystone last season, defeated Rider's Michale Fagg-Daves who also returns this season.

197 Pounds
2017 Champion: Anthony Cassar (Penn State)
Last season's Keystone and NCAA champion, Bo Nickal, is up to 197 and ranked No. 1 in the nation. Drexel's No. 9 Stephen Loiseau was third at Keystone last season and was a NCAA qualifier. Appalachian State's Randall Diabe was also a NCAA qualifier last season after a sixth place finish at Keystone. Penn had three wrestlers entered, including Patrik Garren and Tyler Hall – each moving down from heavyweight. Freshman Greg Bensley was sixth in the Freshman/Sophomore Division of the MSU Open in his first collegiate competition.

285 Pounds
2017 Champion: Nick Nevills (Penn State)
The defending champion returns and is ranked No. 2 in the nation after an All-American season in 2017-18. Nevills will be joined by teammate Anthony Cassar who is up a weight this season following his Keystone title at 197 in 2017. Drexel's Joey Goodhart (No. 18) and Franklin & Marshall's Antonio Pelusi (No. 19) could provide great depth to this weight in terms of experienced wrestlers. Penn's Ben Goldin was the No. 8 220-pounder among high schoolers in the country last year and is looking to shine in his Palestra debut.
 
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