2 turnovers--low throw behind Andrews (remind any of Allar's pass to Nick) that he couldn't hang on to
Lamar doing Lamar things (in honor of Barkley)
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That was not low to Andrews. Terrible drop.
Yes. I thought about Allar to Singleton. Jackson aimed the ball the same as Drew
It was behind him--he had to reach back and knocked it up to himself
Yupp--all QBs make those mistakes--just part of football. Sometimes the easiest throws are the hardest.
Andrews should have caught it--just like Nick--but neither throw was good
Actually Andrews did things very unlike Andrews but he didn't want Lamar to feel alone with the turnovers. Nice guy
Both balls should have been caught.
Both balls should have been thrown better.
My guess is all four players would step up and take the blame.
Actually Andrews does this in the playoffs every year. 3 drops plus the boneheaded fumble. Based on what he’s owed, and how good Likely is, this is probably his last game in Baltimore. Gonna get Cundiffed.
Finds a way to lose. Played pretty well / but two horrendous turnovers.
You can set your watch to it.
Remind you of anything?
Exactly...need QB made it easy on the receiver but both should have been caught. Blame for everyone.
It's his second career fumble and first since 2019. Drops are going to happen more in the cold which is likely a factor but that was a poorly thrown ball albeit one he has to catch.
If your playoff chances are hinging on a 2 point conversion then you already didn't get the job done. This game was won and lost by one team having a balanced offense and the other team unable to make enough down field throws, combined with three turnovers, two of them directly on the quarterback.
This happens to Lamar Jackson every season, but remember, this same thing was the whole story of John Elway, until his owner bought him a defense and a running game. It also happened every season to Dan Marino, one of the ten best quarterbacks ever.
What I am saying is: Lamar Jackson is not going to win a Superbowl in all likelihood, but if he doesn't, he isn't necessarily going down as a failure. He will end up in the same place in history that is currently occupied by Marino, Dan Fouts, Ken Anderson, Fran Tarkenton, Jim Kelly, and I can probably think of a half dozen others. Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick, Jim Zorn, Boomer Esiason, etc
This happens to Lamar Jackson every season, but remember, this same thing was the whole story of John Elway, until his owner bought him a defense and a running game. It also happened every season to Dan Marino, one of the ten best quarterbacks ever.
What I am saying is: Lamar Jackson is not going to win a Superbowl in all likelihood, but if he doesn't, he isn't necessarily going down as a failure. He will end up in the same place in history that is currently occupied by Marino, Dan Fouts, Ken Anderson, Fran Tarkenton, Jim Kelly, and I can probably think of a half dozen others. Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick, Jim Zorn, Boomer Esiason, etc
You know actually who Lamar reminds me of the most?
Cordell Stewart. I'll hang up and Iisten... 😂
Cordell Stewart. I'll hang up and Iisten... 😂
Elway took horrible teams to the Super Bowl...not seeing the comparison. Lamar can't take a good team to that level. If he makes a SB he'll be looked at differently. If he wins one even better but Marino is the only guy to never win a ring that seemingly gets a pass.
He has a history of no showing in the playoffs. He's just not a clutch player. Is what it is.
All of this is pedantic. Between this and the Penn State loss, I'm done with football for awhile. Possibly for good. Better outlets for time and energy than this ground hog day/purgatory experience year after year on both fronts.
Enjoy the offseason, might be back on 8/30 might not.
Yeah, it reminds me that you'll pretty much take every opportunity to trash Penn State Football and James Franklin.
What a negative, sad soul.
Was this him after the game?
Lamar has actually turned into a better all around QB than I ever thought that he was capable of becoming. But NFL football is not about regular season awards. Dan Marino had all of the accolades and no Lombardi Trophy's.
Look how long that it took Peyton Manning and John Elway to finally become Super Bowl Champions.
Yes but neither came into a situation like Lamar who had a stacked team around himWas this him after the game?
Lamar has actually turned into a better all around QB than I ever thought that he was capable of becoming. But NFL football is not about regular season awards. Dan Marino had all of the accolades and no Lombardi Trophy's.
Look how long that it took Peyton Manning and John Elway to finally become Super Bowl Champions.
Manning literally went to the worst team ever (arguably) and built them into wnners
Elway had nothing around him for years and willed that team to the playoffs and two SBs against the Niners.
Yeah, but Lamar is the world’s greatest football player and MVP that nobody wants.
"Consider that Jackson has registered multiple turnovers in 50% of his playoff starts"
Half the time in 8 starts he's literally thrown (or fumbled) the game away--half the time.
Half the time in 8 starts he's literally thrown (or fumbled) the game away--half the time.
Little bit of revisionist history here. They'd missed the playoffs 3 straight years before Lamar's rookie year and they have had awful receivers for decades including most of Lamar's career. This season's were the best they've had with Lamar and Flowers and Bateman are the only wide receivers with more than 14 receptions.
2018 their top 3 wide receivers were John Brown, Willie Snead and Michael Crabtree.
2019 they were Hollywood Brown, Willie Snead and Seth Roberts.
2020 they were Hollywood, Willie and Miles Boykin.
2021 Hollywood, Bateman, Sammy Watkins.
2022 Demarcus Robinson, Devin Duvernay, Rashod Bateman.
The only thousand yard wide receivers they've had were Hollywood in 2021 and Flowers this year.
They had an elite defense and an elite TE throughout his career
Allen and Mahomes seem fine without even a decent WR
Now he has two HOFers on this offense with him and a defense that was ranked #1 over the second half of the year and they failed miserably--it's just predictable that they would lose and he'd make major mistakes. The fumble was really, really bad.
Keyword in there is Now. You said he came into a stacked team, which just isn't the case. Bad to mediocre wide receivers and mostly washed/injured running backs.
Stacked the last 2 seasons, sure.
Allen also threw for fewer yards, TDs a lower completion percentage and more interceptions on more attempts so maybe he could use some decent wide receivers.
Ravens are great at beating themselves. Multiple players. Flowers taunted and then fumbled away a Super Bowl appearance last season. (Kelce actually did the same thing against the Texans this weekend that wasn't flagged but I digress) It's cultural starting with Harbaugh. They're horribly disciplined, and have been since Ray Lewis retired. It's why they're almost always one of the most penalized teams in the league.
He did have a stacked team from the beginning? Having mediocre WRs (or if you want to say bad) doesn't alter that. He had a defense that could carry them. He just had to limit mistakes.
Allen had the lead for most of the game so they weren't taking risks in the weather. If you think Lamar was better than Allen yesterday....
Isn't Lamar really the leader of them beating themselves? How many turnovers does he have in their 5 playoff games?
Allen's also managed to lose as home favorites to end their last 2 seasons, so it's not like he has some masterful track record of carrying the team to tough wins in the playoffs. And they are going to lose to KC next week when Buffalo gets called for twice as many penalties as the Chiefs, which won't be his fault.
This year's Ravens team wasn't as good as last years but they've gotten stale just like Penn State has. You know exactly when they're going to lose, and in roughly what fashion.
Lamar had a shitty first half, regained composure, which he hasn't done historically, for a solid second half when he could have folded. In spite of the horrific first half they win if Andrews shows up in the second. Allen couldn't put the game away when a TD would have put it out of reach, but I know the 6 second half points impress you so you do you.
Well we must have a lot of Division 1 athletes here. Allar threw Singleton the ball low and behind while he was running away from the ball .lets see how many of us can catch that type of ball
Easy Roy…you seemed to draw the conclusion…I am a very positive person.
Just truth-telling…sorry it hit a nerve.
They probably will lose to KC--almost everyone does.
This year's Ravens team was very good once we got passed the start of the year when they were losing games they should have. Better than last year's IMO.
Blame the play calling if you want for Allen not ending it--no idea why they didn't put him under center there
But, Allen, predictably, got the job done--Lamar, predictably, didn't. But at least now he can beat a bad Steelers team--baby steps
Final score: Buffalo 27 Baltimore 25. Two time (and possibly three time) MVP, Lamar Jackson, 3-5 in playoffs. I rest my case.
It was a poor pass, but Singleton has caught worse ones and I'm sure he would say he should have caught it any way.
Looks like "Lamar things" don't result in too many playoff game wins.........
How could such leadership and performances result in being an MVP when playoff wins are generally the most important resumes of QB's?
