@RyanSnyder @Tim Owen/BWI staff @Nate Bauer/BWI Staff @BWI PHIL GROSZ
Gentleman-
I would like to urge you to let the conversations about race and inequality develop and stay in the Lion's Den...They may be uncomfortable at times and they may get ugly but there's a great deal of differing opinions in the Lions Den and given this board is mostly white people, we need to be the ones to confront each other if anything is going to change.
Moving these posts to Test/Politics boards is like moving the conversation to a dark alley that no one really goes to and removes critical voices from the conversation... I know you are trying to moderate and keep it civil but it's a disservice to all of us to evolve and grow. You remove voices from the conversation that would otherwise be heard. You remove eyes from the conversation that may just want to observe and learn. We have to have these conversations out in the open, just like we are being forced to have the conversation through sports. If we are to evolve its going to be through civil discourse and while some will say, I don't want to see it in the Lions Den mixed with Penn State football just like they don't want to see players kneel for the anthem, we need to be made to feel uncomfortable for anything to change.
To quote Gregg Popovich in his interview yesterday:
"Well, because it’s uncomfortable, and there has to be an uncomfortable element in the discourse for anything to change. Whether it’s the LGBT movement, women’s suffrage, race, it doesn’t matter. People have to be made to feel uncomfortable, and especially white people because we’re comfortable. We still have no clue of what being born white means....
...Because you were born white, you have advantages that are systemically, culturally, psychologically there. And they have been built up and cemented for hundreds of years. But many people can’t look at it. It’s too difficult.
It can’t be something that is on their plate on a daily basis. People want to hold their position, people want the status quo, people don’t want to give that up. And until it’s given up, it’s not going to be fixed."
So I urge you to let these conversations like the Tomlin thread, the James Franklin/Lamont Wade thread (and others) that were started in the Den and moved over to remain in the Den and run their course. Let us have discourse where the majority of the room resides because its uncomfortable and because its the best path forward.
Gentleman-
I would like to urge you to let the conversations about race and inequality develop and stay in the Lion's Den...They may be uncomfortable at times and they may get ugly but there's a great deal of differing opinions in the Lions Den and given this board is mostly white people, we need to be the ones to confront each other if anything is going to change.
Moving these posts to Test/Politics boards is like moving the conversation to a dark alley that no one really goes to and removes critical voices from the conversation... I know you are trying to moderate and keep it civil but it's a disservice to all of us to evolve and grow. You remove voices from the conversation that would otherwise be heard. You remove eyes from the conversation that may just want to observe and learn. We have to have these conversations out in the open, just like we are being forced to have the conversation through sports. If we are to evolve its going to be through civil discourse and while some will say, I don't want to see it in the Lions Den mixed with Penn State football just like they don't want to see players kneel for the anthem, we need to be made to feel uncomfortable for anything to change.
To quote Gregg Popovich in his interview yesterday:
"Well, because it’s uncomfortable, and there has to be an uncomfortable element in the discourse for anything to change. Whether it’s the LGBT movement, women’s suffrage, race, it doesn’t matter. People have to be made to feel uncomfortable, and especially white people because we’re comfortable. We still have no clue of what being born white means....
...Because you were born white, you have advantages that are systemically, culturally, psychologically there. And they have been built up and cemented for hundreds of years. But many people can’t look at it. It’s too difficult.
It can’t be something that is on their plate on a daily basis. People want to hold their position, people want the status quo, people don’t want to give that up. And until it’s given up, it’s not going to be fixed."
So I urge you to let these conversations like the Tomlin thread, the James Franklin/Lamont Wade thread (and others) that were started in the Den and moved over to remain in the Den and run their course. Let us have discourse where the majority of the room resides because its uncomfortable and because its the best path forward.
