At Fells jr high. Lois, his daughter was part of our group. I grew up rooting for Guy Rodgers, Hal Lear, Pickles Kennedy. He was smoking cigars on the bench before Auerbach. Went to final four twice. Jay Norman, Tink van Patton. The Palestra had doubleheader’s 3x a week. I used to be an usher. Got paid $10 a night and got to watch great Big 5 basketball. He used to own Blue Mountain camp, always with a cigar clenched between his teeth. When you talk about a throw back, he is who they use as a model. I have bleed blue and white for 57 years (61-65) but have to this day rooted for Temple basketball and to a lesser extent the rest of the Big 5