Personally, the 2005 Ohio State Game was the best game I had ever attended. Multiple plays rocked that stadium. The Lowry pick to the 2 yard line, Posluszny all over the field, and Williams TD run. But Hali sacking Smith causing the fumble, nothing compared to it.
Loud moments at Beaver Stadium since the addition to the South End Zone in 2001.
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I have been to every sporting event you can come up with other than Church Hill Downs....and I am going to get that one....nothing I mean nothing comes close to Tamba Hali's sack in 2005. Best sport moment ever for a Lion fan.
Was at both the 2005 OSU and 2002 Nebraska game and the Nebraska game was louder imo. For the OSU game I was in the north endzone 7 rows from the field and Nebraska was in the former location of the senior section about a dozen rows from the luxury boxes so different acoustics of course. But that 02 game was louder than the OSU sack from my eardrums.
I thought I read somewhere that if was scientifically proven to be Gardner's pick 6. But then again the OSU players saying the field was vibrating in 05 makes me think otherwise. But considering I was there for most of these, I would have to say the Gardner pick 6 gets the gold.
The entire 05 game stands the test of time and the Lowry INT and near return prob has to make that list as well.
The entire 05 game stands the test of time and the Lowry INT and near return prob has to make that list as well.
Agree. The sack occurred right in front of me. The OSU RT blocked down leaving Hali on the TE which was a total mis-match. I saw Tamba coming around the end all the way until he sacked Smith. Paxson was engaged with the LT Daditch (sp) and saw the ball come out and fell on it for the recovery.
108,500 or so for that game and the place was rocking. The best recruiting night in the history of PSU football.
You typed my entire thought, 2002 was louder for the moments when Gardner returned the int. Ohio State 2005 was the loudest sustained stadium sound level I've ever heard and the OSU lineman did say the ground shook. Pretty amazing.
'02 AND '05 had something in common with the students whipped to a fever pitch before the game. One revenge, and the latter, we are back. I give the nod to '05 because it was sustained bedlam for the entire game. The students never sat, just bounced on their feet the entire time. The stadium did actually vibrate several times. When the young folks bring it, nothing compares. Best damn student section in the Country!
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http://www.blackshoediaries.com/201...hio-state-whiteout-joe-paterno-beaver-stadium
That game wasn't just a coming-out party
for a resurrected Penn State program- thanks to the fans, it was a game that would change the landscape of college football. It was the first time a "Whiteout" style game was seen by the masses. Immediately following, any big game from all corners of the nation featured some type of color coordination for the student section, or even the entire stadium. It also made Zombie Nation a football anthem. Although it's been copied by probably every high school, college and NFL team, Beaver Stadium still seems to be the only place where it has the most impact- following a sack, turnover or special teams touchdown. Thanks to the timing of the that infectious chorus, you could feel Beaver Stadium sway that night, which was a complete adrenaline rush for more than one reason. It seemed as though every athletic director was watching that evening and discovering how a lively crowd could impact a game.
When I woke up the following morning I was so hoarse I was barely able to speak, and had a ringing in my ears that would last until the evening. I was told by several people the following week that it was the loudest game they had ever watched on television, and I had the battle wounds to prove it. That Sunday morning I thought I had just woken from a wonderful dream, until realizing that I had actually did witness a game for the ages. Penn State wasn't just back- they were able to announce that they had never really left.
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/201...hio-state-whiteout-joe-paterno-beaver-stadium
That game wasn't just a coming-out party
for a resurrected Penn State program- thanks to the fans, it was a game that would change the landscape of college football. It was the first time a "Whiteout" style game was seen by the masses. Immediately following, any big game from all corners of the nation featured some type of color coordination for the student section, or even the entire stadium. It also made Zombie Nation a football anthem. Although it's been copied by probably every high school, college and NFL team, Beaver Stadium still seems to be the only place where it has the most impact- following a sack, turnover or special teams touchdown. Thanks to the timing of the that infectious chorus, you could feel Beaver Stadium sway that night, which was a complete adrenaline rush for more than one reason. It seemed as though every athletic director was watching that evening and discovering how a lively crowd could impact a game.
When I woke up the following morning I was so hoarse I was barely able to speak, and had a ringing in my ears that would last until the evening. I was told by several people the following week that it was the loudest game they had ever watched on television, and I had the battle wounds to prove it. That Sunday morning I thought I had just woken from a wonderful dream, until realizing that I had actually did witness a game for the ages. Penn State wasn't just back- they were able to announce that they had never really left.
Several years ago, Penn State either hired an engineering firm or had its own engineering department study stadium vibrations to determine whether the stadium was structurally sound. Was it one particular game such as '05 Tosu that caused them to commission the study?
At that time I had season tickets in SHU rows AA & BB, the tip of the upper cantliver seating. If you were bouncing and screaming you were fine. If you were not active in the cheering and just taking a break, you would feel that cantilever seating section moving. Even though I am a licensed engineer and understand vibrations and deflections in structures, I admit I was getting a little concerned.
The following summer my wife, daughter in law Kelly, grand kids Lilly and Jobie were having a bite to eat with Mr. Johnson & his wife in State College. The topic of the OSU game came up and LJ related that person's along College Ave. made it known to the University that the stadium steel was heard to be creaking from that distance.
LJ mentioned that the University had structural engineers & inspectors give the stadium a thorough look for any compromised structural integrity of the stadium.
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You are correct my friend Bob, I just posted before I read your post. I'm a slow reader and even slower at typing, especially on a phone.
I have been at a number of these and that Nebraska game was loudest in my memory. I took a NYC grad and he still talks about how insane it was
I believe this to be true, that Gardner return was the loudest MOMENT. I still remember Jamal Lord's quote about Beaver Stadium being the toughest place to play, his mind was blown. But as others have said, the '05 Ohio State game was the loudest start to finish, with the Hali sack crescendo. The crowd was berserk start to finish.
I've seen a picture of that play, which I would love for my living room, especially as I live in Columbus--but at the time it was part of a three photo series that was too expensive for me. It was at that photo store in Nittany Mall, which I don't think was open that long. Never saw it at Old Main Frame Shop.
Special, special night as we live in Columbus. The only problem was getting out after the game. We were in the lots, not by choice, until sometime after 3 am. And our hotel was in Dubois..... Had we been staying in State College, I would have walked back. I'm still not 100% sure where we were parked--never saw that lot before or after.
I was there for Nebraska 02, Ohio State 05, and Lj2k. Gardner's pick six was the loudest moment, imo. I imagine Haley's run back had to be pretty crazy too.
From another sound study I read several years ago, the architecture of the south end of Beaver leads to effect of an amphitheater which sound is directed & distributed to the field and not lost in a wider area of distribution. These sound studies are the primary reason the students were concentrated in the end zone and limited to the first section on either side of the end zone.
Link:http://acoustics.org/pressroom/httpdocs/159th/barnard.htm
.We showed in a previous study that the crowd noise increased from about 75-80 dB when the home team quarterback was calling plays to 100-110 dB when the visiting team was trying to call plays.Thats like the difference between a normal radio playing and the speakers at a rock concert.In terms of effective communications distance, the home teams quarterback can communicate with other players up to 20 feet away while shouting; whereas, the visiting teams quarterback is limited to communications ranges of less than 2 feet, even while shouting.
Figure 5 shows the three cases for the model. Comparison of Case #1 and Case #2 showed that there was no difference in the on-field sound levels between the cases meaning that the upper section of students is not contributing significant noise to the field. Case #3 was an attempt to improve the ability of the student section to project noise onto the field by surrounding the endzone with students. Results from Case #3 showed a 1 dB drop in noise levels on the east side of the field, but a 1 dB and 3 dB increase in noise levels at the center and west sides of the field, respectively.According to this model, by rearranging the student section around the endzone crowd noise would be more evenly distributed over the south end of the field.
Hardware setup for the HEAD Visor tests. Sound level meter on the 13-yard line and sound source at one location (left) and the HEAD Visor system set up on the sidelines (right).
Figure 5. Schematic of the 3 cases that were run of the noise model for the south end zone. Green circles represent the receiver locations at the 13 yard line. Note that south is up in this schematic. Case #1 has 38,176 spectators (21,205 students, 16,971 other fans), Case #2 has 26,622 spectators (15,428 students, 11,194 other fans), and Case #3 has 38,176 spectators (21,170 students, 17,006 other fans).
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The student sections were moved to the end zone - in the STEP "realignment" - for one reason .......... $$$$$$$From another sound study I read several years ago, the architecture of the south end of Beaver leads to effect of an amphitheater which sound is effectly directly & distributed to the field and not lost in a wider area of distribution. These sound studies are the primary reason the students were concentrated in the end zone and limited to the first section on either side of the end zone.
Link:http://acoustics.org/pressroom/httpdocs/159th/barnard.htm
.We showed in a previous study that the crowd noise increased from about 75-80 dB when the home team quarterback was calling plays to 100-110 dB when the visiting team was trying to call plays.Thats like the difference between a normal radio playing and the speakers at a rock concert.In terms of effective communications distance, the home teams quarterback can communicate with other players up to 20 feet away while shouting; whereas, the visiting teams quarterback is limited to communications ranges of less than 2 feet, even while shouting.
Figure 5 shows the three cases for the model. Comparison of Case #1 and Case #2 showed that there was no difference in the on-field sound levels between the cases meaning that the upper section of students is not contributing significant noise to the field. Case #3 was an attempt to improve the ability of the student section to project noise onto the field by surrounding the endzone with students. Results from Case #3 showed a 1 dB drop in noise levels on the east side of the field, but a 1 dB and 3 dB increase in noise levels at the center and west sides of the field, respectively.According to this model, by rearranging the student section around the endzone crowd noise would be more evenly distributed over the south end of the field.
Hardware setup for the HEAD Visor tests. Sound level meter on the 13-yard line and sound source at one location (left) and the HEAD Visor system set up on the sidelines (right).
Figure 5. Schematic of the 3 cases that were run of the noise model for the south end zone. Green circles represent the receiver locations at the 13 yard line. Note that south is up in this schematic. Case #1 has 38,176 spectators (21,205 students, 16,971 other fans), Case #2 has 26,622 spectators (15,428 students, 11,194 other fans), and Case #3 has 38,176 spectators (21,170 students, 17,006 other fans).
With STEP, those seats in EB and EC (I believe those are the sections, though that is OTTOMH) became worth millions more (in higher annual "license fees") to PSU ICA....... Millions more than the sections in the south end zone and section WA (again, IIRC as to the specific sections) that the students were moved into
That "it will make the crowd louder" was PRAVDA-esque malarkey....... Laughable, really
Good lord Barry, I understood the money impact of opening up the original $400 sections (now I believe are $200).
Moving the students doesn't make the crowd louder, it concentrates the sound volumn from the students & the south end zone area louder.
I occasionally find articles concerning engineering & science that are believable. The south end is incredibly load. Of course, maybe the OGBOT had Freeh manipulate the becible readings over the years.
I'm a very cynical person but you are...
I'm talking about "what motivated PSU ICA to move the student sections?"Good lord Barry, I understood the money impact of opening up the original $400 sections (now I believe are $200).
Moving the students doesn't make the crowd louder, it concentrates the sound volumn from the students & the south end zone area louder.
I occasionally find articles concerning engineering & science that are believable. The south end is incredibly load. Of course, maybe the OGBOT had Freeh manipulate the becible readings over the years.
I'm a very cynical person but you are...
They moved them to make more $$$$
Do you really think that WASN'T the motivation?
When they "back that up" with the BS leg-pissing about making the crowd "more intimidating"........ Rather than just admit the obvious ($$$$), it does, indeed , piss me off
Doubling down, an affirm yes ...dollar driven Barry. At one time, I was giving $2500 seat donation when $600 would cover my six seats in the SHU ROWs AA & BB. Karen and I believed in Levi Land fund. 2011 was a complete 180 in trusting "our university". We now have two seats in the HC section and give the minimum.
Should positive agendas and improvements of the university upper echelons of the hierarchical system be made, I will reconsider increasing donations.
Also, I believe the architectural properties of the stadium being able to reflect the sound volume back the to the field was the other element that comes into play to relocate the students.
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^^^ You may not want to go there. ^^^
Well, we ended up with a ton of talent that was on the sidelines for that game. And, IIRC that 2006 Class was rated #6. So, if you have a game that served as a better recruiting tool, please enlighten us. We had better classes, but as a recruiting tool, many in that 2006 Class mentioned the 2005 OSU game as a big factor in their commitments.
That's alright - it either went over your head, or it was something you weren't aware of.....not important enough to reconstruct from square 1.
Had NOTHING to do with that game being a great recruiting tool.
IMO, that entire WEEK in State College would have been a great recruiting toolFWIW - I think that 2006 recruiting class was RIDICULOUSLY talented - - - maybe as good as any in the last generation of PSU Football
That's alright - it either went over your head, or it was something you weren't aware of.....not important enough to reconstruct from square 1.
Had NOTHING to do with that game being a great recruiting tool.
FWIW - I think that 2006 recruiting class was RIDICULOUSLY talented - - - maybe as good as any in the last generation of PSU Football
Not over my head, just fact. The 2005 OSU was probably our best recruiting game. If you know of one better, you don't have to re-invent the wheel, just put it in your post, rather than another one liner without any facts.
Good God man
I never said ONE SINGLE THING about whether or not 2005 OSU was a "great recruiting game" (whatever you want that to mean) or not. Or if it was our "best ever recruiting game"...... Never a word about it
Jesus H Christ - I never said, nor care to say, one Fing word about it....... I can't imagine anything I would be less concerned with "debating"
I don't know why you think I pissed in your Wheaties
Good Grief
I don't know how you guys could tell the stadium was shaking. I was so busy jumping around I sure couldn't! I wasn't at the 2002 Nebraska game so for me it's no contest, 2005 OSU is the single best sporting event I've ever attended.
I was in the 3rd deck of the South End Zone for 2005 Ohio State. It was bouncing up and down like a pogo stick, and we even mentioned during the game that it might collapse. But we both were having so much fun that we yelled at each other (over the noise) "Who the f-(k cares!!!!!"
Sat on the 40 for 2002 Nebraska, and although easily the second loudest game, and truly insane, not as loud or insane as 2005 Ohio State.
All that being said, if the Stadium was configured as it is now, 1982 Nebraska would have blown everything in the Galaxy out of the water. That game was exponentially BEYOND insane. The only thing I can think of to describe the atmosphere during and after that game is cataclysmically, historically, epic beyond anything else imaginable.
If you're saying that the South End Zone addition hasn't increased the noise level of the Beav beyond exponentially, you are beyond crazy. Best thing we ever did. Atmosphere and noise level in there is FAR better than it was pre-expansion.
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