Lubrano

[Connorpozlee]

Yeah. I had to run to the deli to pick up corn beef sandwiches on rye.

I love you folks. I really, really do. Even those of you who bust my stones (SSS). You have every right to demand transparency.

I will not go quietly into the night, you should understand that by now.

Nothing happens as quickly as we'd like. The wheels of justice grind oh so slowly.

Freeh's day of reckoning is coming...

I always appreciate your willingness to reply Anthony.
I will say this about you statement. I truly appreciate that Freeh needs to be taken to task. His report is full of leaps that would make Bob Beamon jealous. My hope, and anticipation, is that he is only one small step in the process to expose the board members (and interim president) that helped him to perpetuate this whole farce. They are where the true problem lies.

 

[Diego Badman]

What has taken place over the last couple of years:

Is quickly moving the much-ballyhooed "Freeh Review".....which SHOULD HAVE been a seminal event in the battle for better, more righteous governance of PSU.....into an "event" which is much more likely to do more harm than good.

Sad.

That's why I ask the question. If they are not going to "speak with one voice" then what is the use?

 

[StinkStankStunk]

That's why I ask the question. If they are not going to "speak with one voice" then what is the use?

Even if they do "speak with one voice".......who really cares, if that voice carries the "righteousness" of a Bernie Madoff (or a Dick Nixon, or a Elliot Spitzer or a ...........you get my point)

 

[StinkStankStunk]

I always appreciate your willingness to reply Anthony.
I will say this about you statement. I truly appreciate that Freeh needs to be taken to task. His report is full of leaps that would make Bob Beamon jealous. My hope, and anticipation, is that he is only one small step in the process to expose the board members (and interim president) that helped him to perpetuate this whole farce. They are where the true problem lies.

And what have we seen over the last couple years to give ANY indication that the A9 are even willing to consider taking on this task? Are even, quite frankly, interested?

- The folks who vote unanimously - and without question or discussion - to coronate the Chief Rat to take control of the Board?

- The folks who, month after month, vote unanimously - and without question or discussion - to give tens of millions of dollars of our money (and our student's money) to a Cabal led by a crook and a con man?

etc, etc, etc


It is what it is.

 

[getmyjive11]

Maybe they meant Sept. 17th, 2017?

 

[Diego Badman]

Even if they do "speak with one voice".......who really cares, if that voice carries the "righteousness" of a Bernie Madoff (or a Dick Nixon, or a Elliot Spitzer or a ...........you get my point)

Then the review must not be worth anything, and people are just wasting their time.

 

[masterbaker65]

True, the wheels of justice turn slowly. My concern now is- are those wheels turning (with significant progress being made, not just wishful thinking or partisan bluster) or are the wheels just spinning in the mud?

I believe the wheels are moving forward. Recent court ruling for Paterno's proves it...

 

[irncty]

Truthfully Mr. Lubrano, I've about given up all hope of receiving any justice from the BoT. When you anointed Ira the Chief Godfather pulling the strings behind the scenes that basically sealed our fate. Thank goodness Sue's gang still has a hot iron in the fire because the Paterno family's suit seems to be the ONLY way to get behind the layers of bullshit your cohorts have heaped upon this case. I don't know about the others on this board but I get the distinct impression that slimy bastard has played you like a kid at the jukebox with a pocket filled with quarters. When election time comes again, Ryan Bagwell and others who seem to be actually doing something will receive this vote. Let us all know when Ira removes your muffler; hopefully you won't gag until then.

Now this is busting stones!!!

 

[nits74]

Perhaps Lubrano posts only when King Ira displays some more great leadership and allows him to do so. (Still no explanation of Anthiny's vote for and then his praise of Lubert after his criticisms and questions about Ira on this board.)

And apparently the remaining A9 have had surgery to remove their tongues and typing fingers.[/QUOTE]

As well as other body parts, apparently.

 

[StinkStankStunk]

I believe the wheels are moving forward. Recent court ruling for Paterno's proves it...

What does the "Paterno Ruling" have to do with PSU Governance?

[Hypothetical: The answer is absolutely nothing at all]

 

[ga.lion]

Not passing judgment, but I'd like to hear from him. Call me selfish.

Anybody else feel this way?

It's always good to hear from Anthony but I just don't get the posters who attack him. Geeze who has worked harder for the truth and changing the BOT? As a card player I rarely show my hand to the table as betting is progressing........

 

[Ten Thousan Marbles]

It's always good to hear from Anthony but I just don't get the posters who attack him. ........

Maybe it is just me, but I think we are not interested in handing out participation trophies.

 

[Connorpozlee]

It's always good to hear from Anthony but I just don't get the posters who attack him. Geeze who has worked harder for the truth and changing the BOT? As a card player I rarely show my hand to the table as betting is progressing........

Do you ever play with a guy that you rag on constantly, then get beaten in a showdown hand against him, then give the guy that beat you some extra chips to build up his pile even more? That is seemingly what happened with Anthony and chair vote.

 

[StinkStankStunk]

It's always good to hear from Anthony but I just don't get the posters who attack him. Geeze who has worked harder for the truth and changing the BOT? As a card player I rarely show my hand to the table as betting is progressing........

FWIW - I agree that it shouldn't be a "personal" thing (And certainly is not, for me anyway. Others may feel differently - but that's up to them).
I've mentioned it before, but it is REALLY unfortunate (and, frankly, unfair) that A Lub has - at times, at least with some folks - been left to carry the entire burden, especially when criticisms hit after things go south........as the bulk of the "A9" are bunkered down for 34 months of their 36 month terms.
That's really shitty, and unfortunate.

BTW - I think the analogy you used is completely irrelevant wrt the situations at hand (at least any "situations" that are of concern to me). But that's another issue.

 

[Agoodnap]

What does the "Paterno Ruling" have to do with PSU Governance?

[Hypothetical: The answer is absolutely nothing at all]

Well, nothing directly. However, in a perfect world their lawsuit will cause a massive replacement within the BOT through dismissals and resignations perhaps resulting in a new structure.

 

[StinkStankStunk]

Well, nothing directly. However, in a perfect world their lawsuit will cause a massive replacement within the BOT through dismissals and resignations perhaps resulting in a new structure.

Except it has zero chance of impacting those issues.

On the other hand, the folks who could move that cause forward.............

Crickets.

 

[Agoodnap]

Except it has zero chance of impacting those issues.

On the other hand, the folks who could move that cause forward.............

Crickets.

Assuming the Paterno's win big, the information will be public and I believe there will be fallout.

 

[Western PA]

Among the A9, Jubelirer, Pope and Lord terms expire next time around.
How many will seek re-election?
How many will the all-powerful (when is comes to BOT elections) and now conspiculously quiet PS4RS endorse?

 

[masterbaker65]

What does the "Paterno Ruling" have to do with PSU Governance?

[Hypothetical: The answer is absolutely nothing at all]

Hypothetically speaking, discovery of email exchanges between NCAA/Freeh/BOT could force enormous changes at PSU. The only way they will be made public is thru lawsuits. Seems to me the Paterno's and A9 are sitting on a treasure trove of email exchanges between the 3. So to say the Paterno ruling has no bearing on PSU governance in the future is extremely narrow-sighted. Just sayin...

 

[StinkStankStunk]

Hypothetically speaking, discovery of email exchanges between NCAA/Freeh/BOT could force enormous changes at PSU. The only way they will be made public is thru lawsuits. Seems to me the Paterno's and A9 are sitting on a treasure trove of email exchanges between the 3. So to say the Paterno ruling has no bearing on PSU governance in the future is extremely narrow-sighted. Just sayin...

If only it were so.

Hypothetically, I could have the winning Powerball ticket in my pocket

There are 100 avenues - aside from the Paterno suit - that would all be MUCH more promising routes to catalyze reform on the BOT. And NONE of those are easy, high-probability routes (and most of them are a shot in the dark)......and the avenues for the Paterno suit to catalyze BOT reform are even less optimistic than those.

I will say this though.....I have been VERY impressed with the legal expertise (more simply put, the intelligence) of the Paterno suit legal team.
Very sharp guys - IMO

So, I suppose if we also assume that one of the goals of the suit - and of the legal team driving that suit - is "Reform of the PSU BOT" (and this is a HUGE, GIGANTIC leap, because there is no reason to justify this assumption).......then I can't think of a better team to lay one's money on........so I'll agree with you in that regard.
But that only plays a role if the GIGANTIC assumption - which has zero evidence to support - is true (ie, a "hope and a prayer")

If we had the same level of brains, balls, and backbone (that seems to be present in the Paterno Suit's team)......involved with the Alumni Trustees group - and actually focused on, and dedicated to, righteous BOT reform .......we would be 1,000 miles further along in the "BOT Righteousness" agenda.

 

[demlion]

There is a lot going on. Justice moves slowly. I am kind of getting a kick out of Demlion's (near) silence as he was always about 100% transparency. (but that could be due to personal circumstances as well). the point is, we don't know what is going on so patience is the key.

HAA! I'm so transparent you could read the paper through me. I am, however, subject to rules issued by people whose priorities regarding transparency have been reduced to writings which I must obey. The best way to keep a secret is to say nothing.

 

[BobPSU92]

HAA! I'm so transparent you could read the paper through me. I am, however, subject to rules issued by people whose priorities regarding transparency have been reduced to writings which I must obey. The best way to keep a secret is to say nothing.

Someone should have told Joe that when he was "engineering the cover-up".

 

[Tom McAndrew]

I really wish some of you would ease up a bit.

Far too many things posted in this thread that are inaccurate.

To reiterate a few things:
- there was absolutely no deal between the alumni-elected trustees and Lubert at the July BOT meeting
- what was discussed in Executive Session at the July BOT meeting, and what Lubrano referenced at the end of the July BOT public meeting, is likely to remain a bit of a mystery. Lubrano expressed his frustration in the public meeting at not being able to repeat it, but what takes place in Executive Session remains out of the public domain.

The alumni-elected trustees have not been mute since the July BOT meeting. Lubrano, Tribeck, and Pope all posted about the meeting, and about their votes, in public forums. Other alumni-elected trustees may have also posted info since then -- I simply am not aware of it.

I get the frustration that many have with the pace of the getting to the truth, with the way the BOT and the PSU Admin have treated JoePa, as well as how the BOT leadership has treated the alumni-elected trustees over the past 5 years. I share many of the same frustrations.

As for getting to the truth, I think we're closer to reaching that point than we've been at any point during the saga. Whether that will take 6 weeks, 6 months, or a couple of years, I really can't predict. There are multiple, independent processes in play. While the timeframe has already been far longer than any of us expected, I'm pretty confident that most of you will be satisfied as various pieces of information become public.

As for PS4RS, they've had quite a few announcements of late. I understand that not everyone is enamored with their endorsement process, but for the most part it's been pretty good. This is a group that has been on your side since its inception. It's not very productive to be dissing them when the core of your frustration is with groups with whom they are also battling.

BOT reform is a tough nut to crack. The BOT leadership has the votes, regardless of how the alumni-elected trustees vote, to do what they want. It will take a few more years for things to be even competitive. Beyond that, or before that, it will take political action. There have been a number of people trying to make some progress on that front, but it can be like trying to heard cats.

Have a little confidence in what you believe in, as better days are on the horizon.

 

[bwifan]

I really wish some of you would ease up a bit.

Far too many things posted in this thread that are inaccurate.

To reiterate a few things:
- there was absolutely no deal between the alumni-elected trustees and Lubert at the July BOT meeting
- what was discussed in Executive Session at the July BOT meeting, and what Lubrano referenced at the end of the July BOT public meeting, is likely to remain a bit of a mystery. Lubrano expressed his frustration in the public meeting at not being able to repeat it, but what takes place in Executive Session remains out of the public domain.

The alumni-elected trustees have not been mute since the July BOT meeting. Lubrano, Tribeck, and Pope all posted about the meeting, and about their votes, in public forums. Other alumni-elected trustees may have also posted info since then -- I simply am not aware of it.

I get the frustration that many have with the pace of the getting to the truth, with the way the BOT and the PSU Admin have treated JoePa, as well as how the BOT leadership has treated the alumni-elected trustees over the past 5 years. I share many of the same frustrations.

As for getting to the truth, I think we're closer to reaching that point than we've been at any point during the saga. Whether that will take 6 weeks, 6 months, or a couple of years, I really can't predict. There are multiple, independent processes in play. While the timeframe has already been far longer than any of us expected, I'm pretty confident that most of you will be satisfied as various pieces of information become public.

As for PS4RS, they've had quite a few announcements of late. I understand that not everyone is enamored with their endorsement process, but for the most part it's been pretty good. This is a group that has been on your side since its inception. It's not very productive to be dissing them when the core of your frustration is with groups with whom they are also battling.

BOT reform is a tough nut to crack. The BOT leadership has the votes, regardless of how the alumni-elected trustees vote, to do what they want. It will take a few more years for things be even competitive. Beyond that, or before that, it will take political action. There have been a number of people trying to make some progress on that front, but it can be like trying to heard cats.

Have a little confidence in what you believe in, as better days are on the horizon.

I agree Tom... As I stated earlier in this thread everyone is frustrated at the pace. There is not a whole lot we can do about that. For a guy who has kept us informed of what he can, it's amazing to me the amount of pot shots he takes on here. Others are free to run for the BOT if they don't like the way things are done. I don't see many takers willing to take on this battle.

 

[getmyjive11]

I really wish some of you would ease up a bit.

Far too many things posted in this thread that are inaccurate.

To reiterate a few things:
- there was absolutely no deal between the alumni-elected trustees and Lubert at the July BOT meeting
- what was discussed in Executive Session at the July BOT meeting, and what Lubrano referenced at the end of the July BOT public meeting, is likely to remain a bit of a mystery. Lubrano expressed his frustration in the public meeting at not being able to repeat it, but what takes place in Executive Session remains out of the public domain.

The alumni-elected trustees have not been mute since the July BOT meeting. Lubrano, Tribeck, and Pope all posted about the meeting, and about their votes, in public forums. Other alumni-elected trustees may have also posted info since then -- I simply am not aware of it.

I get the frustration that many have with the pace of the getting to the truth, with the way the BOT and the PSU Admin have treated JoePa, as well as how the BOT leadership has treated the alumni-elected trustees over the past 5 years. I share many of the same frustrations.

As for getting to the truth, I think we're closer to reaching that point than we've been at any point during the saga. Whether that will take 6 weeks, 6 months, or a couple of years, I really can't predict. There are multiple, independent processes in play. While the timeframe has already been far longer than any of us expected, I'm pretty confident that most of you will be satisfied as various pieces of information become public.

As for PS4RS, they've had quite a few announcements of late. I understand that not everyone is enamored with their endorsement process, but for the most part it's been pretty good. This is a group that has been on your side since its inception. It's not very productive to be dissing them when the core of your frustration is with groups with whom they are also battling.

BOT reform is a tough nut to crack. The BOT leadership has the votes, regardless of how the alumni-elected trustees vote, to do what they want. It will take a few more years for things be even competitive. Beyond that, or before that, it will take political action. There have been a number of people trying to make some progress on that front, but it can be like trying to heard cats.

Have a little confidence in what you believe in, as better days are on the horizon.

And what were we supposed to get on Sept 17th?

 

[StinkStankStunk]

I agree Tom... As I stated earlier in this thread everyone is frustrated at the pace. There is not a whole lot we can do about that. For a guy who has kept us informed of what he can, it's amazing to me the amount of pot shots he takes on here. Others are free to run for the BOT if they don't like the way things are done. I don't see many takers willing to take on this battle.

That may be for some.....I can't speak for anyone but myself.....

But, speaking for myself, and based on reams of evidence over the last several years, this ain't an issue of "pace".

Its an issue of abject fiduciary failure.




You are right on one count though....."I don't see many takers willing to take on this battle".....we've got 1,000 folks who will claim they will "never give up", who at the same time won't do much more than lift a finger to push the boulder up the hill.

As an example of that (but certainly not the only one):
Over the last 2 election cycles, a total of 6 seats, we've had 8 folks (6 incumbents and 2 "challengers") willing to run on a "reform the BOT slate" (and that is a fairly kind definition)

 

[bkmtnittany1]

Tom...i pray everyday for the truth to finally come out.

 

[crm114psu]

I really wish some of you would ease up a bit.

Far too many things posted in this thread that are inaccurate.

To reiterate a few things:
- there was absolutely no deal between the alumni-elected trustees and Lubert at the July BOT meeting
- what was discussed in Executive Session at the July BOT meeting, and what Lubrano referenced at the end of the July BOT public meeting, is likely to remain a bit of a mystery. Lubrano expressed his frustration in the public meeting at not being able to repeat it, but what takes place in Executive Session remains out of the public domain.

The alumni-elected trustees have not been mute since the July BOT meeting. Lubrano, Tribeck, and Pope all posted about the meeting, and about their votes, in public forums. Other alumni-elected trustees may have also posted info since then -- I simply am not aware of it.

I get the frustration that many have with the pace of the getting to the truth, with the way the BOT and the PSU Admin have treated JoePa, as well as how the BOT leadership has treated the alumni-elected trustees over the past 5 years. I share many of the same frustrations.

As for getting to the truth, I think we're closer to reaching that point than we've been at any point during the saga. Whether that will take 6 weeks, 6 months, or a couple of years, I really can't predict. There are multiple, independent processes in play. While the timeframe has already been far longer than any of us expected, I'm pretty confident that most of you will be satisfied as various pieces of information become public.

As for PS4RS, they've had quite a few announcements of late. I understand that not everyone is enamored with their endorsement process, but for the most part it's been pretty good. This is a group that has been on your side since its inception. It's not very productive to be dissing them when the core of your frustration is with groups with whom they are also battling.

BOT reform is a tough nut to crack. The BOT leadership has the votes, regardless of how the alumni-elected trustees vote, to do what they want. It will take a few more years for things be even competitive. Beyond that, or before that, it will take political action. There have been a number of people trying to make some progress on that front, but it can be like trying to heard cats.

Have a little confidence in what you believe in, as better days are on the horizon.

A huge amount of the frustration would not exist if people put a little more thought into what they post. All of this "there is something big coming soon but that is all I can say for now" has been a bunch of BS. If these people cannot provide details then they should keep their damn mouths shut until such time as they can. Invariably, the day comes around and all these details amount to nothing. I'd rather hear "I have nothing to say".

 

[bwifan]

A huge amount of the frustration would not exist if people put a little more thought into what they post. All of this "there is something big coming soon but that is all I can say for now" has been a bunch of BS. If these people cannot provide details then they should keep their damn mouths shut until such time as they can. Invariably, the day comes around and all these details amount to nothing. I'd rather hear "I have nothing to say".

You say you would rather hear nothing and others say he doesn't speak enough... he can't please everyone. I am sure he is frustrated beyond belief and would love to shout it out from the top of mt nittany but he cannot. He told Joe he would get to the bottom of this and I take him at his word with that statement. Yes it's frustrating but unfortunately this is a marathon not a sprint. It's large long battle against people with great resources and with the ability to stall and divert on many fronts, fiduciary responsibilities/c/c/s trials/blaming it on joe etc. At this point I consider any info he provides us as a plus and realize he and whoever supports him have to be in this for the long run.

 

[crm114psu]

You say you would rather hear nothing and others say he doesn't speak enough... he can't please everyone. I am sure he is frustrated beyond belief and would love to shout it out from the top of mt nittany but he cannot. He told Joe he would get to the bottom of this and I take him at his word with that statement. Yes it's frustrating but unfortunately this is a marathon not a sprint. It's large long battle against people with great resources and with the ability to stall and divert on many fronts, fiduciary responsibilities/c/c/s trials/blaming it on joe etc. At this point I consider any info he provides us as a plus and realize he and whoever supports him have to be in this for the long run.

I am saying that I'd rather hear nothing as opposed to hearing something that is less than nothing, such as hinting that something is coming and when the time comes it is BS eyewash. That is nothing but stringing someone along. If he has something of substance to say then say it. If not then he should keep his mouth shut. And to be fair, he is not the only one guilty of this crap, there are others.

 

[bwifan]

I am saying that I'd rather hear nothing as opposed to hearing something that is less than nothing, such as hinting that something is coming and when the time comes it is BS eyewash. That is nothing but stringing someone along. If he has something of substance to say then say it. If not then he should keep his mouth shut. And to be fair, he is not the only one guilty of this crap, there are others.

I totally get what you are saying... but what you deem important others do not and vice versa.. again he will get nothing but criticized for speaking or not speaking or sharing important info or sharing not important info... in reality I am surprised he posts here anymore to tell you the truth.

 

[crm114psu]

I totally get what you are saying... but what you deem important others do not and vice versa.. again he will get nothing but criticized for speaking or not speaking or sharing important info or sharing not important info... in reality I am surprised he posts here anymore to tell you the truth.

Of course he's going to post here, he is a politician and politicians give lip service to string their constituents along. For example, look at all of those "what if" posts he made in that mother of all threads. "Look here! Look there!" Then along comes the Lubert coronation, and the claim that more info was coming after the 17th. What came? A set of song lyrics. Oh, and "work is progressing on the Freeh material review". Boy, that was some breaking top-secret news that could not possible be revealed prior to the 17th.

But again to be fair, he is not the only one that strings people along. Others share that quality. Keeps the clicks and hits coming.

 

[Mixolydian]

I am saying that I'd rather hear nothing as opposed to hearing something that is less than nothing, such as hinting that something is coming and when the time comes it is BS eyewash. That is nothing but stringing someone along. If he has something of substance to say then say it. If not then he should keep his mouth shut. And to be fair, he is not the only one guilty of this crap, there are others.

He said he won't go quietly. He said Freeh's day of reckoning is coming. That coupled with Tom's pep talk isn't "less than nothing". It is something. Or perhaps "some" thing in michnitwitlion land...

I appreciate whatever AL shares and still chose to believe in him.

 

[lionlurker]

I guess simons96 had us fooled. Or 86, or whatever.

 

[Mixolydian]

I guess simons96 had us fooled. Or 86, or whatever.

I lost you there chief?

 

[Mixolydian]

Speaking of numbers with a 6 in them, Zippy has been awfully quiet. I can't get past the thought that the self important douche sits in his basement thinking that whatever social media moratorium was agreed to in July applies to him too. That thought makes me laugh my ass off for some reason.

 

[BlueBand]

If only it were so.

Hypothetically, I could have the winning Powerball ticket in my pocket

There are 100 avenues - aside from the Paterno suit - that would all be MUCH more promising routes to catalyze reform on the BOT. And NONE of those are easy, high-probability routes (and most of them are a shot in the dark)......and the avenues for the Paterno suit to catalyze BOT reform are even less optimistic than those.

I will say this though.....I have been VERY impressed with the legal expertise (more simply put, the intelligence) of the Paterno suit legal team.
Very sharp guys - IMO

So, I suppose if we also assume that one of the goals of the suit - and of the legal team driving that suit - is "Reform of the PSU BOT" (and this is a HUGE, GIGANTIC leap, because there is no reason to justify this assumption).......then I can't think of a better team to lay one's money on........so I'll agree with you in that regard.
But that only plays a role if the GIGANTIC assumption - which has zero evidence to support - is true (ie, a "hope and a prayer")

If we had the same level of brains, balls, and backbone (that seems to be present in the Paterno Suit's team)......involved with the Alumni Trustees group - and actually focused on, and dedicated to, righteous BOT reform .......we would be 1,000 miles further along in the "BOT Righteousness" agenda.

Well, there's one possible route. IF, and yes I'm saying IF, there are some smoking guns in those emails, and if they become public via the trial, and if public (and media) outrage results, you may see politicians suddenly put on their tough guy persona and demand reforms that only they can deliver.

The same media who rushed to judgement would turn on a dime, claim to have been hoodwinked like everyone else (or just ignore their previous stance), and run with stories of outrage at the corrupt power brokers. Good clickbait. We like to bring down those more powerful. Scandals sell.

Politicians like nothing more than sound bites that make them look important and looking out for the good people back home (to get re-elected, of course). It may force their hand if they perceive the road to reelection runs through board reform (after sufficient outrage that won't die down).

Then the press and lawmakers can run to embrace Joe. Because we also love a good overcoming adversity, redemption and resurrection story. More clickbait and photo ops.

And the really odd thing is the university's reputation will most likely get rehabilitated to some degree. Unlike a scandal with a company full of people you've never heard of, scandals at universities with passionate fan bases (and equally passionate rivals) can take on a life of their own when they involve sports, rather than the English department. We could clear the football coach of wrongdoing and indict the Board of Trustees, and strangely enough come out ahead. Because when a coach does it, it somehow is a reflection on all
of the faculty and alumni, but when the President of the BOT does it, he's s slimey bastard operating on his own, or with a small group of equally slimey bastards. Not logical, but that's reality sometimes.

Now I'm not saying this WILL happen. But it's not really that improbable if a few things break the right way.

 

[billyberoux]

Well, there's one possible route.

Actually there is another route, a very simple one at that. You Nits simply haven't exercised it.

 

[bwifan]

Speaking of numbers with a 6 in them, Zippy has been awfully quiet. I can't get past the thought that the self important douche sits in his basement thinking that whatever social media moratorium was agreed to in July applies to him too. That thought makes me laugh my ass off for some reason.

I have noticed Zippys lack of posting as well. He has been awful quiet with his normal babbling and rambling.... Black Elmo has virtually disappeared. 1 might even reason to think with all the Zipsters "connections" maybe he has heard some bad news for his OGBOT boys is coming....

 

[BlueBand]

I have noticed Zippys lack of posting as well. He has been awful quiet with his normal babbling and rambling.... Black Elmo has virtually disappeared. 1 might even reason to think with all the Zipsters "connections" maybe he has heard some bad news for his OGBOT boys is coming....

Maybe they cut their budget to pay him. With any luck, cutting their losses.