Marijuana now legal in New Jersey

[BBrown]

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If it was me I would check with a Weed dr. (and yes they're legit) they can help in guiding you to which source will best help.
Good luck.
https://www.marijuanadoctors.com/medical-marijuana-doctors/

 

[Agoodnap]

Don't worry. Others had the balls to politely answer one of my questions for you. Namely, it's brain dead stupid to get behind the wheel of a car when you are stoned and drive.

Your answers, like this one, were obviously meant to be evasive. So I'll give you another chance.

To protect other drivers on the road, how hard is it to detect on a traffic stop by a trooper? Is there a breath test or anything else that can be used to detect it on site?

I'll answer. They would use the same method they use today.

What do cops look for during a sobriety test?

Definition: The Standardized Field Sobriety Test (SFST) is a battery of 3 tests performed during a traffic stop in order to determine if a driver is impaired. The 3 tests that make up the SFST are the horizontal gaze nystagmus (HGN), the walk-and-turn, and the one-leg stand tests.

 

[francofan]

I'll answer. They would use the same method they use today.

What do cops look for during a sobriety test?

Definition: The Standardized Field Sobriety Test (SFST) is a battery of 3 tests performed during a traffic stop in order to determine if a driver is impaired. The 3 tests that make up the SFST are the horizontal gaze nystagmus (HGN), the walk-and-turn, and the one-leg stand tests.

The legal question of what constitutes impairment between alcohol and marijuana is obviously different. I believe that a 0,08 alcohol blood content is a standard for dui alcohol impairment across the country.

In Pennsylvania, the marijuana impairment threshold is a concentration of a marijuana metabolite of at least one nanogram per milliliter (ng/ml) of blood.

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I don't believe there is a standard across the country for marijuana impairment.

Imho, it is not a good idea to drive under the influence of alcohol or marijuana.

That being said, my intuition tells me that the problem of driving under the influence of alcohol is a much larger problem than driving under the influence of marijuana.

 

[BUFFALO LION]

I'll answer. They would use the same method they use today.

What do cops look for during a sobriety test?

Definition: The Standardized Field Sobriety Test (SFST) is a battery of 3 tests performed during a traffic stop in order to determine if a driver is impaired. The 3 tests that make up the SFST are the horizontal gaze nystagmus (HGN), the walk-and-turn, and the one-leg stand tests.

Yep. And the last tool they use is the breathalyzer. Refusing that DEFINITELY gets you to the police station. Looks like that last tool is now taken off the table wrt marijuana.

When a trooper makes a traffic stop, he pretty much knows right off the bat if you've been drinking, The smell pours out the car window, especially if they have all been closed.

The Marijuana I remember had a distinct smell, but with all of these variances people are talking about (pills, candy, etc.), it sounds like it would be a LOT harder than alcohol for a trooper to detect on a routine traffic stop. Most people never get out of the car when they get a speeding ticket or have a minor equipment violation.

 

[Agoodnap]

The legal question of what constitutes impairment between alcohol and marijuana is obviously different. I believe that a 0,08 alcohol blood content is a standard for dui alcohol impairment across the country.

In Pennsylvania, the marijuana impairment threshold is a concentration of a marijuana metabolite of at least one nanogram per milliliter (ng/ml) of blood.

Pennsylvania Marijuana DUI Attorneys | ARM Lawyers

Charged with marijuana DUI in Pennsylvania? Call 570-213-5228 to learn more and speak with an attorney at ARM Lawyers today!

armlawyers.com

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I don't believe there is a standard across the country for marijuana impairment.

Imho, it is not a good idea to drive under the influence of alcohol or marijuana.

That being said, my intuition tells me that the problem of driving under the influence of alcohol is a much larger problem than driving under the influence of marijuana.

Ok, if a driver is not impaired why worry about it? If they are impaired and they pass a breath analyzer what do they do today? They take them to the hospital for a blood test. Perhaps a new standard for marijuana, similar to what is done with alcohol, needs to be developed?

 

[Grant Green]

just what we need. more ways to get wasted and ruin your life.

 

[BUFFALO LION]

Why would anyone get high, or drunk for that matter, before driving kids around? Seriously, your question makes no sense.

Well, your answer certainly answers one of my questions. So thanks. : ^ )

 

[BUFFALO LION]

Ok, if a driver is not impaired why worry about it? If they are impaired and they pass a breath analyzer what do they do today? They take them to the hospital for a blood test. Perhaps a new standard for marijuana, similar to what is done with alcohol, needs to be developed?

You know and I know you can hide if you've had one too many if the trooper can't smell the alcohol through the window on a routine traffic stop, resulting in you never having to get out of the car. I know I can sound stone cold sober if I want to at 0.08 and somewhat higher. That doesn't mean my reaction time and driving ability isn't impaired.

I've been stopped numerous times over the years, and probably talked my way out of it 90% of the time (I could tell some crazy stories), But I guarantee you if I had been drinking, the smell coming out of the window would have had me out of the car, going through a sobriety test pronto.

Apparently now, in most of those routine traffic stop situations, you can hide your impairment simply eating candy or taking pills. How in the world is that going to make the roads safer????

 

[Agoodnap]

You know and I know you can hide if you've had one too many if the trooper can't smell the alcohol through the window on a routine traffic stop, resulting in you never having to get out of the car. I know I can sound stone cold sober if I want to at 0.08 and somewhat higher. That doesn't mean my reaction time and driving ability isn't impaired.

I've been stopped numerous times over the years, and probably talked my way out of it 90% of the time (I could tell some crazy stories), But I guarantee you if I had been drinking, the smell coming out of the window would have had me out of the car, going through a sobriety test pronto.

Apparently now, in most of those routine traffic stop situations, you can hide your impairment simply eating candy or taking pills. How in the world is that going to make the roads safer????

It sounds like taking away your driving license would make the roads safer.

 

[BBrown]

It sounds like taking away your driving license would make the roads safer.

No kidding and I'm the "falling down drunk". LMAO.

 

[BUFFALO LION]

It sounds like taking away your driving license would make the roads safer.

Well, if mine goes, so does yours. Anyone that says that they have never gone over the speed limit is either a liar, or someone that has never driven a car out of their driveway.

Which one are you?

 

[Agoodnap]

Well, if mine goes, so does yours. Anyone that says that they have never gone over the speed limit is either a liar, or someone that has never driven a car out of their driveway.

Which one are you?

Moving the goalposts:
Issue A has been raised, and adequately answered.
Issue B is then raised, and adequately answered.
…
Issue Z is then raised, and adequately answered.

By moving the goal posts, the narcissist comes up with reasons to never be satisfied.
The way to deal with the narcissists and others who use the tactic of moving the goal posts is to not play their game. It's a game that isn't any fun and you can not win; it's a waste of time to even try.

 

[BBrown]

Moving the goalposts:
Issue A has been raised, and adequately answered.
Issue B is then raised, and adequately answered.
…
Issue Z is then raised, and adequately answered.

By moving the goal posts, the narcissist comes up with reasons to never be satisfied.
The way to deal with the narcissists and others who use the tactic of moving the goal posts is to not play their game. It's a game that isn't any fun and you can not win; it's a waste of time to even try.

+1
A leopard will always reveal its spots in the end.

 

[LafayetteBear]

But I'm strictly weekend recreational...well mostly.

But NEVER AT DUSK, right?

 

[tboyer]

Apparently now, in most of those routine traffic stop situations, you can hide your impairment simply eating candy or taking pills. How in the world is that going to make the roads safer????

One of the benefits of being so late to legalization is that we have the answer to that question. Legalization simply has not increased traffic fatalities to any significant degree in states that have decriminalized/legalized. (One study found a VERY slight increase in deaths (1 per 1M population) the first year after legalization, but then deaths went back down.)

A stoned driver is impaired but not in the same way as a drunk driver. Anybody who drinks and smokes pot knows the difference. With pot you don't lose muscle coordination or vision in the way that you do when you drink too much. And drunk people tend to lose inhibition and drive fast, while high people at least in my experience become more cautious.

I think a drunk person is more likely to not see a stop sign, whereas a high person might stop at the stop sign and wait for it to turn green (which I've done sober, by the way). I could definitely see a stoned person getting confused at a complicated intersection and going the wrong way.

I'm not excusing driving impaired in any way and I fully support charging impaired drivers -- but only if impairment is evident. Pulling over people for a non-safety pretext (license plate light etc) and then blood-testing them because a cop says he smelled marijuana has always been legally sketchy. But pulling over someone who's driving the wrong way down a one-way street -- seems like that driver would be fair game to test for impairment.

 

[LafayetteBear]

Knees and lower back pain are frequent and I just use over the counter pain relief - aspercream and Tylenol. Would CBD oil be an effective option? I really don’t want to mess with opioids or any addictive meds, and I try to just take the minimum necessary to get the job done.

CBD certainly does not work for everybody, but my wife's boss got some from a dispensary out here (surprise, it was in Berkeley!), and it worked well for him. My neighbor also got some for her dad (a physician who was mobility limited and embarrassed to be seen in a marijuana dispensary), and it worked well for him, too. Both were complaining of pain in their knees and hips.

 

[YogiMan71]

just what we need. more ways to get wasted and ruin your life.

Just another way to relax, unwind, or get you into something new. It hasn’t ruined my life at all. Indica strains work well as sleep aids and Sativa for more physical and energetic activities. It helped me to quit using alcohol and improve my health and well being. No wasted or ruined life here. I am having a blast in retirement I still have an occasional beer or 2 mostly in the summer after cutting the grass but never more than 2. I just don’t need to feel drunk anymore. For joint pain some of the CBD creams work well if you use them daily the positive effects tend to build on each other. The wife and like the Apothecanna Brand which works pretty well. Pa will wake up after NY and Oh legalize.

 

[YogiMan71]

One of the benefits of being so late to legalization is that we have the answer to that question. Legalization simply has not increased traffic fatalities to any significant degree in states that have decriminalized/legalized. (One study found a VERY slight increase in deaths (1 per 1M population) the first year after legalization, but then deaths went back down.)

A stoned driver is impaired but not in the same way as a drunk driver. Anybody who drinks and smokes pot knows the difference. With pot you don't lose muscle coordination or vision in the way that you do when you drink too much. And drunk people tend to lose inhibition and drive fast, while high people at least in my experience become more cautious.

I think a drunk person is more likely to not see a stop sign, whereas a high person might stop at the stop sign and wait for it to turn green (which I've done sober, by the way). I could definitely see a stoned person getting confused at a complicated intersection and going the wrong way.

I'm not excusing driving impaired in any way and I fully support charging impaired drivers -- but only if impairment is evident. Pulling over people for a non-safety pretext (license plate light etc) and then blood-testing them because a cop says he smelled marijuana has always been legally sketchy. But pulling over someone who's driving the wrong way down a one-way street -- seems like that driver would be fair game to test for impairment.

More accidents in Colorado are either alcohol related or distracted driving texting etc.

 

[BUFFALO LION]

Moving the goalposts:
Issue A has been raised, and adequately answered.
Issue B is then raised, and adequately answered.
…
Issue Z is then raised, and adequately answered.

By moving the goal posts, the narcissist comes up with reasons to never be satisfied.
The way to deal with the narcissists and others who use the tactic of moving the goal posts is to not play their game. It's a game that isn't any fun and you can not win; it's a waste of time to even try.

Actually, you totally avoided "Issue Z" and just gave a snarky answer. Not surprised. It's an issue that's obviously very uncomfortable for you to answer,

At this point, as a whole, it's pretty obvious law enforcement will be FAR less efficient at detecting drivers under the influence now that pot's been legalized. If I was a kid again, and thought I could talk my way through a routine traffic stop without any smell coming out of the car, I would definitely use it and drive. Less risk than alcohol.

Thank goodness I'm not a kid anymore.

 

[johnmpsu]

This isn't exactly true. In 2018 CO 13.5% of all drivers in fatal crashes tested positive for cannabis. That seems significant to me but hey we need the tax money. Who knows how many non-fatal accidents there were. Attached is a study from CDT. Other studies I've read have lots of other bad data but I won't quote them because people immediately attack the authors.

Colorado Department of Transportation releases key findings from two-year study aimed at reducing cannabis-involved traffic crashes and fatalities — Colorado Department of Transportation

www.codot.gov

 

[BUFFALO LION]

This isn't exactly true. In 2018 CO 13.5% of all drivers in fatal crashes tested positive for cannabis. That seems significant to me but hey we need the tax money. Who knows how many non-fatal accidents there were. Attached is a study from CDT. Other studies I've read have lots of other bad data but I won't quote them because people immediately attack the authors.

Colorado Department of Transportation releases key findings from two-year study aimed at reducing cannabis-involved traffic crashes and fatalities — Colorado Department of Transportation

www.codot.gov

You do know you're destroying the accepted narrative here, right?

 

[johnmpsu]

You do know you're destroying the accepted narrative here, right?

Yes it's one of my favorite pastimes and really is so easy to do. Especially if you don't mind getting called some nasty names.

 

[tboyer]

You're mixing up inputs and outputs. 20 percent of drivers in fatal crashes probably have french fries in their system -- but that doesn't give you enough evidence to conclude that french fries cause traffic accidents.

The discredited "gateway drug" theory suffers from the same problem. Hypothetical #1: Everybody who ever died of a heroin overdose had previously smoked pot. Hypothetical #2: Smoking pot makes you less likely to die of a heroin overdose. Seems counterintuitive but it is logically possible for #1 to be true at the same time as #2.

To really answer the question, you'd have to study not just the people who died, but the people who didn't. You'd have to study pot smokers vs. non-pot smokers who became heroin users, and then track them until you had enough deaths to draw statistical conclusions. That kind of research is very expensive and nobody wants to pay for it. Easier to just Louis Freeh it and state one's opinion as fact, which is what most drug abuse "experts" are basically doing.

To your actual citation, it certainly makes sense that a certain percentage of drivers in fatal accidents test positive for cannabis. But it's Colorado -- probably the percentage of ALL drivers who would test positive is in the same neighborhood.

I think the paper is a good one. I think it's important to stress that driving while high is NOT safe. It should never be excused or normalized. People should be sober and well rested and NOT on their phones any time they're driving 2 tons of metal down a public right of way at high speed.

But back to the original question -- will legalization result in a lot more traffic deaths? We pretty much have the answer, and the answer is no.

This isn't exactly true. In 2018 CO 13.5% of all drivers in fatal crashes tested positive for cannabis. That seems significant to me but hey we need the tax money. Who knows how many non-fatal accidents there were. Attached is a study from CDT. Other studies I've read have lots of other bad data but I won't quote them because people immediately attack the authors.

Colorado Department of Transportation releases key findings from two-year study aimed at reducing cannabis-involved traffic crashes and fatalities — Colorado Department of Transportation

www.codot.gov

 

[BUFFALO LION]

You're mixing up inputs and outputs. 20 percent of drivers in fatal crashes probably have french fries in their system -- but that doesn't give you enough evidence to conclude that french fries cause traffic accidents.

The discredited "gateway drug" theory suffers from the same problem. Hypothetical #1: Everybody who ever died of a heroin overdose had previously smoked pot. Hypothetical #2: Smoking pot makes you less likely to die of a heroin overdose. Seems counterintuitive but it is logically possible for #1 to be true at the same time as #2.

To really answer the question, you'd have to study not just the people who died, but the people who didn't. You'd have to study pot smokers vs. non-pot smokers who became heroin users, and then track them until you had enough deaths to draw statistical conclusions. That kind of research is very expensive and nobody wants to pay for it. Easier to just Louis Freeh it and state one's opinion as fact, which is what most drug abuse "experts" are basically doing.

To your actual citation, it certainly makes sense that a certain percentage of drivers in fatal accidents test positive for cannabis. But it's Colorado -- probably the percentage of ALL drivers who would test positive is in the same neighborhood.

I think the paper is a good one. I think it's important to stress that driving while high is NOT safe. It should never be excused or normalized. People should be sober and well rested and NOT on their phones any time they're driving 2 tons of metal down a public right of way at high speed.

But back to the original question -- will legalization result in a lot more traffic deaths? We pretty much have the answer, and the answer is no.

What do french fries do to your brain? Try making that argument to the cop when he tells you to get out of the car. You can make the same argument regarding alcohol.

 

[BBrown]

What do french fries do to your brain? Try making that argument to the cop when he tells you to get out of the car. You can make the same argument regarding alcohol.

I'm sorry who but has the "narrative" in this thread? You might try the mirror for a clue.
Like I said 2 pages ago. Disingenuous at best.

 

[BUFFALO LION]

I'm sorry who but has the "narrative" in this thread? You might try the mirror for a clue.
Like I said 2 pages ago. Disingenuous at best.

Hey!! Welcome back!!! I thought you had someone else fighting your battles for you.

I do have a question for you. You seem to be over the top defensive about this and avoiding all my questions. Do you sell this stuff for a living or something? As a complete novice having never smoked a joint in my life, I didn't think my original questions were all that confrontational. I was pretty upfront about me not knowing much about this stuff.

I DO see that as a kid, if it was legal, I MIGHT use it before I got in a car knowing a cop couldn't smell it like he would alcohol, meaning I MIGHT think I could beat a routine traffic stop. That probably would NOT be a good thing.

 

[BBrown]

Hey!! Welcome back!!! I thought you had someone else fighting your battles for you.

I do have a question for you. You seem to be over the top defensive about this and avoiding all my questions. Do you sell this stuff for a living or something? As a complete novice having never smoked a joint in my life, I didn't think my original questions were all that confrontational. I was pretty upfront about me not knowing much about this stuff.

I DO see that as a kid, if it was legal, I MIGHT use it before I got in a car knowing a cop couldn't smell it like he would alcohol, meaning I MIGHT think I could beat a routine traffic stop. That probably would NOT be a good thing.

I get defensive when I smell a rat.
Let me ask you a question instead...
Do you still beat your wife?

 

[BlueLion]

Actually, you totally avoided "Issue Z" and just gave a snarky answer. Not surprised. It's an issue that's obviously very uncomfortable for you to answer,

At this point, as a whole, it's pretty obvious law enforcement will be FAR less efficient at detecting drivers under the influence now that pot's been legalized. If I was a kid again, and thought I could talk my way through a routine traffic stop without any smell coming out of the car, I would definitely use it and drive. Less risk than alcohol.

Thank goodness I'm not a kid anymore.

First of Its Kind Study Finds Virtually No Driving Impairment Under the Influence of Marijuana

The first study to analyze the effects of cannabis on driving performance found that it caused almost no impairment. The impairment that it did cause was similar to that observed under the influence of a legal alcohol limit.

Researchers at the University of Iowa’s National Advanced Driving Simulator carried out the study, sponsored by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, National Institute of Drug Abuse, and the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

“Once in the simulator—a 1996 Malibu sedan mounted in a 24-feet diameter dome—the drivers were assessed on weaving within the lane, how often the car left the lane, and the speed of the weaving. Drivers with only alcohol in their systems showed impairment in all three areas while those strictly under the influence of vaporized cannabis only demonstrated problems weaving within the lane. Drivers with blood concentrations of 13.1 ug/L THC, or delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, the active ingredient in marijuana, showed increased weaving that was similar to those with a .08 breath alcohol concentration, the legal limit in most states."

New Study: Minimal Driving Impairment From Marijuana - DUI BLOG January 7, 2016

 

[Lion Son/Husband/Father]

First of Its Kind Study Finds Virtually No Driving Impairment Under the Influence of Marijuana

The first study to analyze the effects of cannabis on driving performance found that it caused almost no impairment. The impairment that it did cause was similar to that observed under the influence of a legal alcohol limit.

Researchers at the University of Iowa’s National Advanced Driving Simulator carried out the study, sponsored by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, National Institute of Drug Abuse, and the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

“Once in the simulator—a 1996 Malibu sedan mounted in a 24-feet diameter dome—the drivers were assessed on weaving within the lane, how often the car left the lane, and the speed of the weaving. Drivers with only alcohol in their systems showed impairment in all three areas while those strictly under the influence of vaporized cannabis only demonstrated problems weaving within the lane. Drivers with blood concentrations of 13.1 ug/L THC, or delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, the active ingredient in marijuana, showed increased weaving that was similar to those with a .08 breath alcohol concentration, the legal limit in most states."

New Study: Minimal Driving Impairment From Marijuana - DUI BLOG January 7, 2016

Be that as it may the rick me could never drive stoned, even if the 7-11 frito lay isle was chanting my name.

 

[johnmpsu]

You're mixing up inputs and outputs. 20 percent of drivers in fatal crashes probably have french fries in their system -- but that doesn't give you enough evidence to conclude that french fries cause traffic accidents.

The discredited "gateway drug" theory suffers from the same problem. Hypothetical #1: Everybody who ever died of a heroin overdose had previously smoked pot. Hypothetical #2: Smoking pot makes you less likely to die of a heroin overdose. Seems counterintuitive but it is logically possible for #1 to be true at the same time as #2.

To really answer the question, you'd have to study not just the people who died, but the people who didn't. You'd have to study pot smokers vs. non-pot smokers who became heroin users, and then track them until you had enough deaths to draw statistical conclusions. That kind of research is very expensive and nobody wants to pay for it. Easier to just Louis Freeh it and state one's opinion as fact, which is what most drug abuse "experts" are basically doing.

To your actual citation, it certainly makes sense that a certain percentage of drivers in fatal accidents test positive for cannabis. But it's Colorado -- probably the percentage of ALL drivers who would test positive is in the same neighborhood.

I think the paper is a good one. I think it's important to stress that driving while high is NOT safe. It should never be excused or normalized. People should be sober and well rested and NOT on their phones any time they're driving 2 tons of metal down a public right of way at high speed.

But back to the original question -- will legalization result in a lot more traffic deaths? We pretty much have the answer, and the answer is no.

By your "logic" you can't assume that alcohol contributed to the crash. Sorry I don't buy it. I get it you are so desperate to defend your position you are unable to consider that you may be wrong. If you learned that 13.5% of all fatal accidents involved alcohol I'm pretty sure you wouldn't try to tell me that a correlation can't be made. Maybe there is no correlation with mj but I'll still feel better knowing that people think driving while high is a bad idea. Unfortunately if you look deeper into the study there is a lot of interesting data on the attitudes of mj users. I think you embody those attitudes.

 

[81b&w]

Thanks. You are talking to someone that has never smoked a joint in his life. I'm not the only one. A LOT of people my age, especially guys that played sports, never touched the crap. Among other things, we were told it would take away our aggressiveness. That, by itself, kept guys like me a quadrillion miles away. My wife never smoked any either.

With some of these "more potent strains" that others have said "not to mess with", would you feel comfortable driving your grandkids (or kids) 5 or 10 miles to school in the morning right after smoking? On an Interstate like I-95? It would be bad enough doing that if you are stone cold sober. But under the influence of a "more potent, not to mess with" high? Having had some experience with the stuff, what's your opinion? Thanks.

I wouldn't feel comfortable to answer your question. Of course I would never put myself in that situation. I think most pot smokers prefer to wait till the time is right, like an after diner drink at home

 

[81b&w]

Yep. And the last tool they use is the breathalyzer. Refusing that DEFINITELY gets you to the police station. Looks like that last tool is now taken off the table wrt marijuana.

When a trooper makes a traffic stop, he pretty much knows right off the bat if you've been drinking, The smell pours out the car window, especially if they have all been closed.

The Marijuana I remember had a distinct smell, but with all of these variances people are talking about (pills, candy, etc.), it sounds like it would be a LOT harder than alcohol for a trooper to detect on a routine traffic stop. Most people never get out of the car when they get a speeding ticket or have a minor equipment violation.

What typically alerts the cops is when you're doing 25 in a 45 zone

 

[Lion Son/Husband/Father]

I wouldn't feel comfortable to answer your question. Of course I would never put myself in that situation. I think most pot smokers prefer to wait till the time is right, like an after diner drink at home

or wake n bake

 

[Lion Son/Husband/Father]

What typically alerts the cops is when you're doing 25 in a 45 zone

This is so damn funny

 

[BUFFALO LION]

I get defensive when I smell a rat.
Let me ask you a question instead...
Do you still beat your wife?

Do you also get defensive when you put up a post like the one below and a rank amateur like me asks you a question as to whether what you just described is safe to use before you drive????

[ BBrown: "Download the Weedmaps App. and the Leafly App they are invaluable.
Don't go nuts, the strains are waaayyy more potent than what you might remember.
If they have edibles go easy.
My current fav is a Indica dominant hybrid called Hammerhead Popcorn but its loaded at a 27+ THC and I've been told that it can reach as high as 34% and thats just in the flower. If your a newbie I would not mess with it.
But a good Go to is OG Kush."]

You obviously have a lot of knowledge on this subject, and a lot of practical experience. When someone like me reads that something that you just described has become legal............ and carries a punch "I would not want to mess with", I have some questions.

As for "my wife", if I'm beating her, she sure loves it. We've been happily married for 45 years!!!!

Thanks for asking!!! Sounds like "wife beating" is something else you have a lot of knowledge about.

 

[lj4heisman1]

Would need to account for the fact that one can test positive for pot days or weeks after the last use.

if you test over a certain level for alcohol you are likely impaired at that point. The same cannot be said for pot. You can smoke a joint yesterday and test positive tomorrow and not be impaired at the time of testing.

 

[BBrown]

Do you also get defensive when you put up a post like the one below and a rank amateur like me asks you a question as to whether what you just described is safe to use before you drive????

[ BBrown: "Download the Weedmaps App. and the Leafly App they are invaluable.
Don't go nuts, the strains are waaayyy more potent than what you might remember.
If they have edibles go easy.
My current fav is a Indica dominant hybrid called Hammerhead Popcorn but its loaded at a 27+ THC and I've been told that it can reach as high as 34% and thats just in the flower. If your a newbie I would not mess with it.
But a good Go to is OG Kush."]

You obviously have a lot of knowledge on this subject, and a lot of practical experience. When someone like me reads that something that you just described has become legal............ and carries a punch "I would not want to mess with", I have some questions.

As for "my wife", if I'm beating her, she sure loves it. We've been happily married for 45 years!!!!

Thanks for asking!!! Sounds like "wife beating" is something else you have a lot of knowledge about.

and you wonder why you don’t get a straight up answer. Weird.

 

[AWS1022]

More accidents in Colorado are either alcohol related or distracted driving texting etc.

Accident rates are up in all states where marijuana is legal.

 

[BlueLion]

Would need to account for the fact that one can test positive for pot days or weeks after the last use.

if you test over a certain level for alcohol you are likely impaired at that point. The same cannot be said for pot. You can smoke a joint yesterday and test positive tomorrow and not be impaired at the time of testing.

Testing for alcohol is only necessary because of court cases and lawyers. A cop doesn't need a blood test to determine if someone is impaired from alcohol. The physical signs are obvious. People argue against legalizing pot because there is no way to tell if someone is impaired from pot without some sort of blood test. News flash, if there is no way to determine if someone is impaired from pot, it's because they are not impaired.

 

[BBrown]

@BBrown any scuttlebutt to share about the potential for legalization in Maryland? I understand that there’s a bill somewhere in the legislative pipeline.

@LionJim...wow was not expecting VA to go so quickly...well not that quick since it won't be until 2024 but still.
Also in the article it says that the bill in MD got its first hearing this month. I wonder what the result was?
Interesting...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/virginia-joins-15-other-states-202122910.html