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Maryland stinks, but OSU is beatable

They really only scheduled USC and Ohio State as potentially tough games. We know they use the ACC to get easy opponents without having to join a conference but Duke was good this year (or could have been) prior to losing their QB. Not sold on Louisville but we'll see and I'm glad they beat the hell out of ND.
Bottom line, ND is again built up as some sort of elite power house. They now have two losses and could easily have two more down the road.

Good for TOSU beating them, but IMO, big deal. How good are we? Who knows, but I’m not shaking in my shoes regarding going to Columbus this year.
 
Of course they jumped at that opportunity, and many schools would have. Florida State was able to use that conference to stay near the top for almost an entire decade in the 1990s. It's a bit bigger now but basically the same cast of characters.
FSU is also overrated IMO.
 
Bottom line, ND is again built up as some sort of elite power house. They now have two losses and could easily have two more down the road.

Good for TOSU beating them, but IMO, big deal. How good are we? Who knows, but I’m not shaking in my shoes regarding going to Columbus this year.
My guess is that they will lose again next week, and then lose at Clemson. Maybe even lose one more beyond that.

They aren't really going to be a factor this year.

I don't agree with those who are saying that OSU's game against ND was much more difficult than our games against WVU and Iowa. well, at least WVU. Iowa didn't even show up for some reason
 
My guess is that they will lose again next week, and then lose at Clemson. Maybe even lose one more beyond that.

They aren't really going to be a factor this year.
Yet, according to OSU fans, they are a top five team.
 
The Maryland QB is a turnover machine. Ohio State has nothing on offense except Harrison, and the QB can definitely be rattled.
Obviously, I think PSU is a competitive team. However, I'm not sure I've seen them play nearly well enough to start smack talking a Goliath......

and the last thing I want to hear is that the PSU team is smack talking before the game. It's sure as hell not an image I long for. Just show up and play hard.
 
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Obviously, I think PSU is a competitive team. However, I'm not sure I've seen them play nearly well enough to start smack talking a Goliath......

and the last thing I want to hear is that the PSU team is smack talking before the game. It's sure as hell not an image I long for. Just show up and play hard.
there's a big difference between the team doing it and people posting on some message board called "Happy Valley Insider"

I think PSU would win for sure if it was a home game. Given that it's in Columbus, it seems like a total toss-up. It does not appear to me like either one has a chance of beating Michigan unless they get some major lucky plays.
 
They are 5-0. Each team undefeated until OSU played them. I am very comfortable being an OSU fan going forward. Good luck against Umass. Should be a real barn burner. I still think that the game in 2 weeks could go either way.
"eVeRy TeAm UnDeFeAtEd UnTiL oSu PlAyEd ThEm..."

"OnLy TeAm In ThE nAtIoN tO not GiVe Up A 40 yArD pLaY..."

Take your bullshit back over to your Board with every toothless high school dropout in Ohiya instead of verbally fellating Notre Dame over here. Your inferiority complex is showing because you can't face the fact that many teams have caught up after a decent run (couldn't get over the finish line).
 
Penn State and Ohio State are essentially the same team this year.
Agree. Interestingly, because we play in Columbus, slight advantage to OSU our game with them.... BUT if we win advantage to us versus Michigan because we get them at home. Not sure either of these teams are as good as Michigan but if we can get past OSU in Columbus..... one can only dream.
 
Yet, according to OSU fans, they are a top five team.
Are you saying they believe ND is a top 5 team or they believe Ohio State is a top 5 team? I don't think anyone believes ND is even before yesterday but probably a top 15-20 team before yesterday most had them as a top 12
 
Agree. Interestingly, because we play in Columbus, slight advantage to OSU our game with them.... BUT if we win advantage to us versus Michigan because we get them at home. Not sure either of these teams are as good as Michigan but if we can get past OSU in Columbus..... one can only dream.
My thoughts exactly...the game in 2 weeks will be very interesting.
 
From this OSU fan's perspective this board is fun to read. That said it will all be decided for real in 2 weeks.

The more that I look at both teams the more I agree that they are similarly built. I do think that this is the most beatable OSU team since 2011. If the game was at PSU they would probably be favored for sure. At the Shoe the game will probably be a pick em or OSU a slight favorite, 3 points of less.
Each team has question marks. For PSU: can they get their running game going? How will Aller respond to his first real hostile enviornent . That is one test the McCord has already passed despite what happened to ND last night. For OSU it comes down to run blocking and the OL. If they don't get that resolved then I don not see how OSU wins even at the Shoe. As good as the WR room is OSU becomes very one dementional without a running game. While both teams have issues with their running game I objectively think that OSU problems are worse.
 
From this OSU fan's perspective this board is fun to read. That said it will all be decided for real in 2 weeks.

The more that I look at both teams the more I agree that they are similarly built. I do think that this is the most beatable OSU team since 2011. If the game was at PSU they would probably be favored for sure. At the Shoe the game will probably be a pick em or OSU a slight favorite, 3 points of less.
Each team has question marks. For PSU: can they get their running game going? How will Aller respond to his first real hostile enviornent . That is one test the McCord has already passed despite what happened to ND last night. For OSU it comes down to run blocking and the OL. If they don't get that resolved then I don not see how OSU wins even at the Shoe. As good as the WR room is OSU becomes very one dementional without a running game. While both teams have issues with their running game I objectively think that OSU problems are worse.
Which is a fair assessment and why I think we can (if not should) beat them but we need chunk plays to do so and remain turnover free. McCord is improving but I think we get them at the right time.
 
I don't think that Penn State has played a team of ND's caliber nor probably Maryland's. JMO.
ND lost to Louisville by 13 and OSU. They beat Duke late. I would say the jury is out on ND being a good team. As for PSUs schedule, it is what it is up to this point. Neither PSUs schedule or OSUs schedule will affect the outcome of the game. So who cares.
 
ND lost to Louisville by 13 and OSU. They beat Duke late. I would say the jury is out on ND being a good team. As for PSUs schedule, it is what it is up to this point. Neither PSUs schedule or OSUs schedule will affect the outcome of the game. So who cares.
I don't think our schedule has been as horrible as people are implying. No excuse for scheduling Delaware or UMass, that's a joke, but WVU and Iowa were not bad opponents. people are acting like those games didn't happen
 
ND lost to Louisville by 13 and OSU. They beat Duke late. I would say the jury is out on ND being a good team. As for PSUs schedule, it is what it is up to this point. Neither PSUs schedule or OSUs schedule will affect the outcome of the game. So who cares.
it is possible that ND is not that great and OSU is still very good. I think OSU is basically the same as PSU; I think we may have the edge at QB but not WR. both defenses are seemingly good. I think PSU has a better one based on what i have watched
 
it is possible that ND is not that great and OSU is still very good. I think OSU is basically the same as PSU; I think we may have the edge at QB but not WR. both defenses are seemingly good. I think PSU has a better one based on what i have watched

Not that the ESPN QB ratings numbers are the be all to end all but the top 3 B10 QB Ratings are

McCarthy 93
McCord 86
Aller 75

I watched the PSU NW game on the OSU bye week. Aller did not look like the second coming of Joe Montana against a team that lost to Rutgers by 24 points.
 
I don't think our schedule has been as horrible as people are implying. No excuse for scheduling Delaware or UMass, that's a joke, but WVU and Iowa were not bad opponents. people are acting like those games didn't happen
Iowa nor WVU is a good opponent. Iowa's best win is ??? Purdue maybe. WVU's best win is a TCU that is way worse than anyone expected. They're subpar teams that aren't a challenge for a better than mediocre team.

If Ohio State played our schedule we'd all be agreeing about how weak it is.
 
Iowa nor WVU is a good opponent. Iowa's best win is ??? Purdue maybe. WVU's best win is a TCU that is way worse than anyone expected. They're subpar teams that aren't a challenge for a better than mediocre team.

If Ohio State played our schedule we'd all be agreeing about how weak it is.
yeah but what is Notre Dame's best win? beating Duke by 7.
 
"eVeRy TeAm UnDeFeAtEd UnTiL oSu PlAyEd ThEm..."

"OnLy TeAm In ThE nAtIoN tO not GiVe Up A 40 yArD pLaY..."

Take your bullshit back over to your Board with every toothless high school dropout in Ohiya instead of verbally fellating Notre Dame over here. Your inferiority complex is showing because you can't face the fact that many teams have caught up after a decent run (couldn't get over the finish line).
I don't post there because it is pay to play. I don't value banter enough to pay to do it.
Toothless HS dropout? That's southern Ohio, I live in northern Ohio.
Inferiority complex? With all due respect, I would not show it here if it existed, which it does not.
Caught up? Yes, UM has. GA, Alabama etc. never had to catch up. PSU? We'll see.
Finish line? Name another northern school that has done it in the last 25 years.

No need to be an ahole. I try to post respectfully and realize this is not my home board. I just try to add a view from outside the fan base. Sorry if you are offended.
 
Not that the ESPN QB ratings numbers are the be all to end all but the top 3 B10 QB Ratings are

McCarthy 93
McCord 86
Aller 75

I watched the PSU NW game on the OSU bye week. Aller did not look like the second coming of Joe Montana against a team that lost to Rutgers by 24 points.
McCarthy is obviously better than both. McCord is throwing to 1st round NFL receivers and Allar is probably not, tbh. that's a huge difference but Allar seems to me like he is a very good qb
 
McCarthy is obviously better than both. McCord is throwing to 1st round NFL receivers and Allar is probably not, tbh. that's a huge difference but Allar seems to me like he is a very good qb
Don't disagree on Aller but PSU WRs are not exactly chopped liver either. I do think that a real difference so far is that McCord passed the" must drive in a very hostile situation "test with flying colors and Aller had not had to do that as of yet.
 
Don't disagree on Aller but PSU WRs are not exactly chopped liver either. I do think that a real difference so far is that McCord passed the" must drive in a very hostile situation "test with flying colors and Aller had not had to do that as of yet.
Our WRs have not been at all impressive and definitely not on the level of Ohio State's.

McCord has been tested and I agree Allar's probably accomplished thr 3rd most so far but they all are impressive
 
Don't disagree on Aller but PSU WRs are not exactly chopped liver either. I do think that a real difference so far is that McCord passed the" must drive in a very hostile situation "test with flying colors and Aller had not had to do that as of yet.
I may be showing my age with this, but McCord reminds of me of Mills throwing to Bryant Johnson in 2002 or Hackenberg throwing to Robinson in 2013. In both cases we thought we had special QBs, and they were not bad, but the receivers were the ones who were making them look great

someone like Marvin Harrison Jr is not a normal WR
 
I posted on this earlier.....in what world is this NOT a penalty? The player is clearly moving forward at the snap of the ball

 
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here's a good point. We should double down on Miami recruits after yesterday.

 
"eVeRy TeAm UnDeFeAtEd UnTiL oSu PlAyEd ThEm..."

"OnLy TeAm In ThE nAtIoN tO not GiVe Up A 40 yArD pLaY..."

Take your bullshit back over to your Board with every toothless high school dropout in Ohiya instead of verbally fellating Notre Dame over here. Your inferiority complex is showing because you can't face the fact that many teams have caught up after a decent run (couldn't get over the finish line).
Amazing how brash you and a select others are about OSU considering PSU has beaten them once spanning more than a decade. Us PSU fans shouldn't be so crass and arrogant until the program earns it...assuming u prefer that style anyways
 
Amazing how brash you and a select others are about OSU considering PSU has beaten them once spanning more than a decade. Us PSU fans shouldn't be so crass and arrogant until the program earns it...assuming u prefer that style anyways
since Franklin arrived it has mostly been PSU losing close games to OSU. it's on Franklin that there has only been one win, as he could have won several of those - 2014, 2017 and 2018 at least. It sucks, but before that it was basically PSU getting blown out for three years and winning in the 4th year. i think Franklin has actually made things more competitive with OSU than what Paterno and O'Brien were doing
 
since Franklin arrived it has mostly been PSU losing close games to OSU. it's on Franklin that there has only been one win, as he could have won several of those - 2014, 2017 and 2018 at least. It sucks, but before that it was basically PSU getting blown out for three years and winning in the 4th year. i think Franklin has actually made things more competitive with OSU than what Paterno and O'Brien were doing
I agree....no doubt JF has made things more competitive. But, as u said, still just one win. Close doesn't count. We are that top program IMO that is knocking on the door that hasn't opened it yet.

It's just amazing how some on here (we know who they are) are so arrogant and stuffy without any perspective about the program.... and dismissive of those other teams who have proven it. Makes our fanbase look like sensitive bozos that can't have civil discourse about football
 
I agree....no doubt JF has made things more competitive. But, as u said, still just one win. Close doesn't count. We are that top program IMO that is knocking on the door that hasn't opened it yet.

It's just amazing how some on here (we know who they are) are so arrogant and stuffy without any perspective about the program.... and dismissive of those other team who have proven it. Makes our fanbase look like sensitive bozos.
Every message board for every team is like that.
 
Every message board for every team is like that.
I'm sure they are...just frustrating when a select few are so myopic, and in some cases, spew vulgarity and insults when the majority of us just want to talk psu football. It's not that deep and some on here are psychotic with their reax.
 
I agree....no doubt JF has made things more competitive. But, as u said, still just one win. Close doesn't count. We are that top program IMO that is knocking on the door that hasn't opened it yet.

It's just amazing how some on here (we know who they are) are so arrogant and stuffy without any perspective about the program.... and dismissive of those other teams who have proven it. Makes our fanbase look like sensitive bozos that can't have civil discourse about football
no, close doesn't count, and the 2017 loss can be entirely blamed on the play calling by Franklin and/or Moorhead, likely costing us a playoff appearance. but I think our coaching staff is better now. i hope better things are ahead
 
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I'm sure they are...just frustrating when a select few are so myopic, and in some cases, spew vulgarity and insults when the majority of us just want to talk psu football. It's not that deep and some on here are psychotic with their reax.
I don’t think anyone has a problem talking PSU football, it’s when posters judge PSU way different than they judge other teams. And especially those that don’t like Franklin so they downgrade everything the team does. It gets old.
 
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I don’t think anyone has a problem talking PSU football, it’s when posters judge PSU way different than they judge other teams. And especially those that don’t like Franklin so they downgrade everything the team does. It gets old.
Agreed...but a select few have problems with everything, even if evidence disproves their maniacal takes.
 
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it is possible that ND is not that great and OSU is still very good. I think OSU is basically the same as PSU; I think we may have the edge at QB but not WR. both defenses are seemingly good. I think PSU has a better one based on what i have watched
I agree. My point is who OSU and PSU have played has no impact on the upcoming game.
 
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