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Matt Sandusky to speak at Lewisburg HS on April 27

This jerk jolly sociopath, burglar, assaulter, arsonist is not to be believed. The question is, why was he paid when Penn State had no culpability for this asshole. He was paid to keep his mouth shut about TSM.

He is the one " victim" that I'll never understand WHY he was paid anything...

I mean... His adopted parent ( was adopted , yes?) apparently abused him... His own parent... And Penn State paid him...just so bizarre....
 
I'm just glad Matt places the blame with the party responsible -- The Second Mile. If the PSUBOT wants to pay TSM's settlement, that's not Matt's fault. He seems to be the only one that's willing to call out our state agencies and TSM.


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Ken Frazier's remark that he wouldn't care if Curley/Schultz/Spanier/Paterno were exonerated makes perfect sense when you consider the indemnifaction protections enjoyed by Penn State trustees vs the personal liability they were on the hook for as directors at The Second Mile.

Imagine the panic going through Kitty Genovese's head when she admitted that TSM's had to tell Jerry to back off other kids in the past. Imagine the relief she felt when Penn State picked up the tab and promised everyone a big payday as long as they agreed to never sue The Second Mile.

Here's an interesting, somewhat-related piece about the indemnification protections extended to Louis Freeh by our OG Board of Trustees.
 
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Who was hushing what?
Well, assuming this was a serious question:

Penn State's Blood Money (really, OUR money) being used to put the kibosh to any civil (or criminal) action against the people that MS (now) says are responsible for his long-term abuse at the hands of Jerry S.

Actions that could have opened the door to exposing those folks who MS (now) says are responsible.....and to actually leading to impactful steps towards reducing/exposing/preventing CSA - which seems to be what MS (now) claims to desire.


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Ken Frazier's remark that he wouldn't care if Curley/Schultz/Spanier/Paterno were exonerated makes perfect sense when you consider the indemnifaction protections enjoyed by Penn State trustees vs the personal liability they were on the hook for as directors at The Second Mile.

Imagine the panic going through Kitty Genovese's head when she admitted that TSM's had to tell Jerry to back off other kids in the past. Imagine the relief she felt when Penn State picked up the tab and promised everyone a big payday as long as they agreed to never sue The Second Mile.

Here's an interesting, somewhat-related piece about the indemnification protections extended to Louis Freeh by our OG Board of Trustees.

"Imagine the panic going through Kitty Genovese's head when she admitted that TSM's had to tell Jerry to back off other kids in the past. Imagine the relief she felt when Penn State picked up the tab and promised everyone a big payday as long as they agreed to never sue The Second Mile."

If that is true - and I have no reason to doubt it - then the folks who accepted the blood money in exchange for that silence (and thereby allowing THE DEAL to be consummated) are, most certainly, not to be treated as heroes for doing so.
 
Why was Penn State culpable for Matt? Answer that Art. There's no proof he was abused on Penn State property. I've never seen such BS. No dates, no empirical evidence, no witnesses.

Utter BS.

You really have a reading comprehension problem (I actually believe your problems are more extensive than that). Nowhere have I said that PSU is responsible for Matt or any other of the purported Sandusky victims. However, if a university hangs out a sign saying that it is paying seven figures to semi-bald people, few if any questions asked, I'm the first in line.
 
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Exactly my thoughts.....and I don't have an answer.

Although, I would also add - - - if we accept each and every statement he now makes, at face value - - - wouldn't he have had a much stronger ability to make a positive impact if he HAD NOT accepted blood money for silence?
If he had instead, pursued his causes of actions in a courtroom......moving forward with the whole "deposition/evidence gathering/examination, cross-examination" process. Isn't that the expectation of what someone concerned with "exposing the causes of CSA" (or however he wants to position things now) would do?


Motivations and actions of victims can be complex and vary by individual. I'll leave it at that.
 
He is the one " victim" that I'll never understand WHY he was paid anything...

I mean... His adopted parent ( was adopted , yes?) apparently abused him... His own parent... And Penn State paid him...just so bizarre....
The only two rationales I can think of are (a) that Matt could claim he was abused on campus and/or PSU people knew of Sandusky's actions but didn't do anything. (b) Considering PSU assumed risk for The Second Mile, there is a connection there. After all, everything landed on PSU and not the TSM nor CYS.
 
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Is this during school hours? IE Aimed at kids?

Didn't he change his name from Sandusky to something else and then change it back once he realized he was in the money for having the name Sandusky and speaking against the man he demanded be his adopted father while he was 18? And then he demanded his kids be able to visit his molester in jail after he received a 6 figure settlement? It's ridiculous that he is believe and not able to be questioned simply because he tells a one sided story (which has never been questioned, and he said the opposite forever).
 
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"Imagine the panic going through Kitty Genovese's head when she admitted that TSM's had to tell Jerry to back off other kids in the past. Imagine the relief she felt when Penn State picked up the tab and promised everyone a big payday as long as they agreed to never sue The Second Mile."

If that is true - and I have no reason to doubt it - then the folks who accepted the blood money in exchange for that silence (and thereby allowing THE DEAL to be consummated) are, most certainly, not to be treated as heroes for doing so.
Perhaps even more amazing than Genovese's eye-opening quote is the fact that it somehow mysteriously disappeared from Sara Ganim's exposé into The Second Mile. ganim article
 
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ms is a congenital liar, proven thief, barn burner, brother of a murderer - and would be in jail right now if not for js. The fact that these scam artists w/ their memory repression experts and ghost writers made a thin dime off these ridiculous tales is a good indication that PT Barnum was indeed correct.
 
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Kitty Genovese will burn in hell for her misdeeds. She's ok with that, cause she's been making 6 figures for a fake job for 10+ years.
TSM's gravy train was the real conflict of interest, and it had nothing to do with football culture.

Ironically, there is phenomenon known as "The Bystander Effect," which came to be after the murder of another Kitty Genovese -- a crime witnessed by 38 people who did nothing as she was raped and killed.
 
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You really have a reading comprehension problem (I actually believe your problems are more extensive than that). Nowhere have I said that PSU is responsible for Matt or any other of the purported Sandusky victims. However, if a university hangs out a sign saying that it is paying seven figures to semi-bald people, few if any questions asked, I'm the first in line.


That LaJolla likes your nonsense tells it all. You used to be a decent poster, what happened?
 
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I understand vetting potential victims of child abuse is highly criticized. But is it typical for a person who was abused as a small child to beg his abuser to adopt him years later when he is almost an adult. Do victims of abuse often fight so their own children can visit with their alleged abuser?
Yes hat type of behavior is not uncommon amoung sexual abuse victims. When a child is sexually abused they often stop mentally maturing at that age. So you will often see bizarre behavior even into adulthood that you would see from a child. So they will often display child like views of relationships. For example to an 8 year old a parent figure is a parent figure regardless of how that parent behaves. So even if "dad" abused him in their mind he still dad and his kids should still visit him. This also plays into why they will continue a relationship with the abuser. They still want their approval and it also a defense mechanism. It easier for their minds to rationalize they were molested because the person loved them. That is easier to accept then they were just being used for sexual gratification. So while all his behavior may look bizarre to us it actually normal in abuse cases.

I once worked with a child who was abused at a very young age by his father. He would go on and on how great his dad was and how he couldn't wait to see him again. He idolized his abuser. The kid who was 15 at the time loved stuffed animals because that what his dad would get him after he abused him. He would be caught having sex with the stuffed animals and he would say he was doing it because he loved them. However if you asked him he would say sexual abuse is wrong. So the point is you have to realize your dealing with people wha have adult bodies yet the mental maturity of a child.
 
Yes hat type of behavior is not uncommon amoung sexual abuse victims. When a child is sexually abused they often stop mentally maturing at that age. So you will often see bizarre behavior even into adulthood that you would see from a child. So they will often display child like views of relationships. For example to an 8 year old a parent figure is a parent figure regardless of how that parent behaves. So even if "dad" abused him in their mind he still dad and his kids should still visit him. This also plays into why they will continue a relationship with the abuser. They still want their approval and it also a defense mechanism. It easier for their minds to rationalize they were molested because the person loved them. That is easier to accept then they were just being used for sexual gratification. So while all his behavior may look bizarre to us it actually normal in abuse cases.

I once worked with a child who was abused at a very young age by his father. He would go on and on how great his dad was and how he couldn't wait to see him again. He idolized his abuser. The kid who was 15 at the time loved stuffed animals because that what his dad would get him after he abused him. He would be caught having sex with the stuffed animals and he would say he was doing it because he loved them. However if you asked him he would say sexual abuse is wrong. So the point is you have to realize your dealing with people wha have adult bodies yet the mental maturity of a child.
It would just be TOO easy......just let this one go
 
That LaJolla likes your nonsense tells it all. You used to be a decent poster, what happened?
Nobody respects you pnny. Don't kid yourself. I know if you and a few others like you dislike my post...I'm in the right. The woe is Jerry crowd is where you hang your hat. I pray an idiot like you goes to this event and makes an arse of himself.
 
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You really have a reading comprehension problem (I actually believe your problems are more extensive than that). Nowhere have I said that PSU is responsible for Matt or any other of the purported Sandusky victims. However, if a university hangs out a sign saying that it is paying seven figures to semi-bald people, few if any questions asked, I'm the first in line.


So, if someone robs a bank and drops some of the money, by your logic, it's OK to pick it up and keep it.

Ludicrous aside from dumb. Stick to statistics.
 
Yes hat type of behavior is not uncommon amoung sexual abuse victims. When a child is sexually abused they often stop mentally maturing at that age. So you will often see bizarre behavior even into adulthood that you would see from a child. So they will often display child like views of relationships. For example to an 8 year old a parent figure is a parent figure regardless of how that parent behaves. So even if "dad" abused him in their mind he still dad and his kids should still visit him. This also plays into why they will continue a relationship with the abuser. They still want their approval and it also a defense mechanism. It easier for their minds to rationalize they were molested because the person loved them. That is easier to accept then they were just being used for sexual gratification. So while all his behavior may look bizarre to us it actually normal in abuse cases.

I once worked with a child who was abused at a very young age by his father. He would go on and on how great his dad was and how he couldn't wait to see him again. He idolized his abuser. The kid who was 15 at the time loved stuffed animals because that what his dad would get him after he abused him. He would be caught having sex with the stuffed animals and he would say he was doing it because he loved them. However if you asked him he would say sexual abuse is wrong. So the point is you have to realize your dealing with people wha have adult bodies yet the mental maturity of a child.


You sure do love Pitt don't you? Stick to that because your position on this is a fail. The old repressed memory routine is a loser. Matt is a liar and sociopath and he was never abused on PSU property. He was bought off to have him keep his mouth shut about TSM.
 
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So, if someone robs a bank and drops some of the money, by your logic, it's OK to pick it up and keep it.

Ludicrous aside from dumb. Stick to statistics.

Nobody robbed a bank here. If a bank was giving away money to it's customers because they somehow felt guilty for something they didn't do, but a crazy retired employee did....that would be the same scenario. Logic, patience, and even semi-rational thoughts aren't in the hand you were dealt.
 
You sure do love Pitt don't you? Stick to that because your position on this is a fail. The old repressed memory routine is a loser. Matt is a liar and sociopath and he was never abused on PSU property. He was bought off to have him keep his mouth shut about TSM.
You claim he was not abused so what is there to shut him up about?
 
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You claim he was not abused so what is there to shut him up about?


His knowledge about TSM. He never said he was abused at Penn State. He did put the onus on TSM recently. So why did PSU pay him? To protect family, friends and cross members from the BoT bercause TSM had personal liability for those who knew of, and allowed misconduct to continue.
 
You sure do love Pitt don't you? Stick to that because your position on this is a fail. The old repressed memory routine is a loser. Matt is a liar and sociopath and he was never abused on PSU property. He was bought off to have him keep his mouth shut about TSM.
Where did I mention repressed memory or Pitt? I simply answered the guys question if that kind of behavior is common in sexual abuse victims. It unfortunately is. It has nothing to do with repressed memory.
 
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His knowledge about TSM. He never said he was abused at Penn State. He did put the onus on TSM recently. So why did PSU pay him? To protect family, friends and cross members from the BoT bercause TSM had personal liability for those who knew of, and allowed misconduct to continue.
So you do believe that he was abused somewhere, by JS?
 
You really have a reading comprehension problem (I actually believe your problems are more extensive than that). Nowhere have I said that PSU is responsible for Matt or any other of the purported Sandusky victims. However, if a university hangs out a sign saying that it is paying seven figures to semi-bald people, few if any questions asked, I'm the first in line.

But if they were paying money to semi-bald people with serious health issues, would you lie about having a health issue to get the money?
 
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I think he knew of abuse at TSM by individuals, but even the rest of his siblings have called him a liar.
How do you know his siblings aren't saying that to protect their dad? It very common for siblings to defend an accused parent. Keep in mind it a stretch to call them siblings considering he was adopted at 18 and they didn't grow up with him. Would you call Dotti a neutral source in the case?
 
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How do you know his siblings aren't saying that to protect their dad? It very common for siblings to defend an accused parent. Keep in mind it a stretch to call them siblings considering he was adopted at 18 and they didn't grow up with him. Would you call Dotti a neutral source in the case?


They lived with Matt, and knew him. Dottie has stuck by Jerry and denies any abuse.
 
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You really have a reading comprehension problem (I actually believe your problems are more extensive than that). Nowhere have I said that PSU is responsible for Matt or any other of the purported Sandusky victims. However, if a university hangs out a sign saying that it is paying seven figures to semi-bald people, few if any questions asked, I'm the first in line.
Would you still be first in line if you knew that doing so would help to prevent a cure for baldness?
 
They lived with Matt, and knew him. Dottie has stuck by Jerry and denies any abuse.
And that makes them impartial judges? He lived with them on and off. We have no clue the dynamics of the relationship with the other Sandusky children. It not uncommon for foster children and biological children to not get along. Just because they said it doesn't mean it true
 
And that makes them impartial judges? He lived with them on and off. We have no clue the dynamics of the relationship with the other Sandusky children. It not uncommon for foster children and biological children to not get along. Just because they said it doesn't mean it true
There are no biological children
 
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