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Most successful programs last 50 and 75 years (Top 10)

Bushwood CC

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Last 50 years (1965-2014)
  1. Nebraska 480
  2. Oklahoma 447
  3. Ahia State 445
  4. The Pennsylvania State University 435
  5. Bama 429
  6. scUM 428
  7. Texas 420
  8. Free Shoes U 419
  9. Georgia 416
  10. USC 414
Last 75 Years (1940-2014):
  1. Okie U 639
  2. Texas 609
  3. Ahia State 598
  4. The Pennsylvania State University 596
  5. Bama 593
  6. Nebraska 588
  7. scUM 579
  8. ND 574
  9. Tennessee 568 (t9)
  10. Georgia 568 (t9)
Depending on how you want to define the "modern era" and what date you wish to pick - how about the Post WWII Era (1950 - Present) which is a good one as it really is the advent of the "media age", here's how that breaks out:
  1. Okie U 570
  2. Nebraska 554
  3. Ahia State 541
  4. The Pennsylvania State University 534
  5. Texas 531
  6. Bama 527
  7. USC 507
  8. scUM 505
  9. Tennessee 501
  10. Free Shoes U 496 (t10)
  11. Florida 496 (t10)
Any way you slice it, the scUM trolls belief that Michigan has been dominant is quite absurd.
 
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It's always worth mentioning, in discussions like these, that the winningest coach of all-time is none other than Joseph Vincent Paterno from The Pennsylvania State University (i.e., every single one of those 409 wins earned at The Pennsylvania State University).

:)
 
Last 50 years (1965-2014)
  1. Nebraska 480
  2. Oklahoma 447
  3. Ahia State 445
  4. The Pennsylvania State University 435
  5. Bama 429
  6. scUM 428
  7. Texas 420
  8. Free Shoes U 419
  9. Georgia 416
  10. USC 414
Last 75 Years (1940-2014):
  1. Okie U 639
  2. Texas 609
  3. Ahia State 598
  4. The Pennsylvania State University 596
  5. Bama 593
  6. Nebraska 588
  7. scUM 579
  8. ND 574
  9. Tennessee 568 (t9)
  10. Georgia 568 (t9)
Depending on how you want to define the "modern era" and what date you wish to pick - how about the Post WWII Era which is a good one as it really is the advent of the "media age", here's how that breaks out:
  1. Okie U 570
  2. Nebraska 554
  3. Ahia State 541
  4. The Pennsylvania State University 534
  5. Texas 531
  6. Bama 527
  7. USC 507
  8. scUM 505
  9. Tennessee 501
  10. Free Shoes U 496 (t10)
  11. Florida 496 (t10)
Any way you slice it, the scUM trolls belief that Michigan has been dominant is quite absurd.
Thank you Bushwood, great information. I did not know that college football was as "regional" way back when, statistics back then seem to be pretty use less.
 
The top ten would get interesting I think for anyone's "personal top ten" list and I think that is really interesting to see where people rate programs. PSU is definitely on it. PSU and Texas to me are like Northern and Southern mirrors in so many ways. Both schools are amazingly similar even outside of football. They definitely are doing the basketball thing better but if Chambers keeps this momentum going with a solid season our hoops could start snowballing. Does a program like FSU belong? Florida?
 
Thank you Bushwood, great information. I did not know that college football was as "regional" way back when, statistics back then seem to be pretty use less.
Before 1950 they were playing with leather helmuts so it really wasnt the same game. I think the NCAA should "qualify" their statistics, pre-1950 and post-1950.
 
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Gee, what a wonderful "first post" ever on this message board as a guest. If this is typical of the useless bereft of content type of posts you are going to contribute, why don't you limit it to your own board rather than prove what a classless idiot you are as a guest?
 
Nice data backed post to kill that mich troll.
But hey, F%#$ the Fvck that Ahia $Tate football factory cheaters.

Excellent point in that anyone looking at those top-ten lists has to acknowledge Penn State's graduation rates. The fact is that Penn State is on the list of top football programs while maintaining an excellent academic record and never being investigated by the ncaa. Success With Honor.
 
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Gee, what a wonderful "first post" ever on this message board as a guest. If this is typical of the useless bereft of content type of posts you are going to contribute, why don't you limit it to your own board rather than prove what a classless idiot you are as a guest?

Based on his join date, he obviously got banned from Rivals at some point. And what a date he chose to sign up. Sheesh.
 
Excellent point in that anyone looking at those top-ten lists has to acknowledge Penn State's graduation rates. The fact is that Penn State is on the list of top football programs while maintaining an excellent academic record and never being investigated by the ncaa. Success With Honor.

No doubt, PSU and Notre Dame are the only programs that cross both the all-time wins list and "Success With Honor" graduation rates lists (e.g., doing it with REAL student-athletes).
 
Great research bushwood. It's very interesting to review performance by decades, as well. PSU wasn't bad before JoePa. PSU ranked as follows in wins by decade. Stassen.com is my source and only includes wins officially recognized by the NCAA.

1930's - > #30 (TCU #1)
1940's - #13 (ND #1)
1950's - #20 (Oklahoma #1)
1960's - #4 (Alabama #1)
1970's - #4 (Alabama #1)
1980's - #6 (Nebraska #1)
1990's - #5 (Florida St #1)
2000's - #31 (Boise St #1)
2010's - > #30 (Oregon #1)

Four schools were ranked in the top 30 in the most decades (ND, O$U, USC, and Tenn all 8 out of 9 decades). PSU was ranked in 7 of 9 decades missing out in 1930's and the current decade.
 
Great research bushwood. It's very interesting to review performance by decades, as well. PSU wasn't bad before JoePa. PSU ranked as follows in wins by decade. Stassen.com is my source and only includes wins officially recognized by the NCAA.

1930's - > #30 (TCU #1)
1940's - #13 (ND #1)
1950's - #20 (Oklahoma #1)
1960's - #4 (Alabama #1)
1970's - #4 (Alabama #1)
1980's - #6 (Nebraska #1)
1990's - #5 (Florida St #1)
2000's - #31 (Boise St #1)
2010's - > #30 (Oregon #1)

Four schools were ranked in the top 30 in the most decades (ND, O$U, USC, and Tenn all 8 out of 9 decades). PSU was ranked in 7 of 9 decades missing out in 1930's and the current decade.

Great info. Thanks. Another way of looking at it is the fact that Joe has fewer than half of Penn State's all-time wins. Penn State was rather successful before Joe took the helm.
 
Great info. Thanks. Another way of looking at it is the fact that Joe has fewer than half of Penn State's all-time wins. Penn State was rather successful before Joe took the helm.

Another great way of looking at is by Coaching Administration because it is legendary Head Coaches that establish dominant winning traditions after all, the simple "name" does not create wins - it's the Head Coach at the end of the day (Bud Wilkerson at Oklahoma, Bear Bryant at Bama, Darrell Royal at Texas, etc....). By sheer coincidence Rip Engle came to PSU in 1950 -- during Rip Engle's tenure, PSU was 104-48-4 which was #14 in the country during that tenure ('Ole Miss was #1 during the period at 128-33-9 believe it or not). PSU's next coach was of course "The Great Joseph Vincent Paterno" to use Coach Franklin's description (1965-2011). PSU was 410-139-3 during these seasons #3 in the country (UNL was #1 at 442-120-5). In other words, Coach Franklin is following two CFB Hall of Fame Coaching Selections who combined to make PSU the #3 winningest program in the country during their back-to-back tenures, 1950 - 2011, PSU was 514-187-7 (Oklahoma was #1 during this span at 541-169-12 primarily off the back of the coaching tandem of Bud Wilkerson and Barry Switzer).

In other words, Coach Franklin understands he has some big shoes to fill but he seems to be a very good "student of the game" in terms of understanding how they established those exception dominant winning traditions.....and the #1 way they created these results was by sticking to the "inputs" (results are not inputs) of core values, principles and process (those things that our uniforms have come to represent - the way football has always been played in Pennsylvania....."with integrity". You practice as hard as you can every practice.....you play as hard as you can every game, every play - "Black Shoes, Basic Blues, No Names, ALL GAME") - in other words, the other team is going to get your best effort every play to the final whistle regardless of score or anything else because that is your OBLIGATION to your "name" [e.g., your family and yourself], your teammates and the uniform you are representing [e.g., your school]. Coach Franklin understands PSU's Tradition -- Success With Honor and Integrity - Coach Franklin understands the tradition of "Pennsylvania Football" and the precepts of how it is played - he grew up in Pennsylvania and played both High School and College Football in Pennsylvania. Given his humility, ability to recruit and coach, I think he has learned the lessons well of what coaches like Joe Paterno and Rip Engle could teach him and has the potential to do great things at PSU. I was told by a very wise and brilliant person a long, long time ago that if you don't retain your humility, and you begin to drink your own cool-aide [he was referring to arrogance, narcissism and hubris], you will not realize your ultimate potential to do great things because the key to self-improvement and 'getting better' at anything, including being a good person, is remaining humble and understanding that you can always get better if you remain humble and retain the "belief" that you can be better. In other words, it's all about "attitude" and being confident, but grateful and humble (because all of our talents were a gift - something we were given and have an obligation to realize the potential of those gifts - not something we created) which is the diametric opposite attitude of arrogance, narcissism and hubris even if the talent level is identical. "Toughness" and "Determination" to be the best we can be is the first attitude - the attitude of "true champions" - the end never justifies the means; the means [e.g., the "inputs"] are always paramount...."it's how you play, not whether you win or lose". The latter attitude above when it is practiced by talented people generally results in a "win regardless of cost" attitude....IOW, "the ends do justify the means"....cheating is okay as long as it results in "winning" or what I perceive to be in my self-interest's "winning". As I've said before, the "culture problem" at PSU never resided within the Football Program, it resides with zero-integrity, moral-hypocrites that took up residence in the "Executive Committee of the Board of Thieves, Liars, Charlatans and Whores".
 
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It's always worth mentioning, in discussions like these, that the winningest coach of all-time is none other than Joseph Vincent Paterno from The Pennsylvania State University (i.e., every single one of those 409 wins earned at The Pennsylvania State University).

:)

It's much more likely that somebody will beat DiMagio's 56 game hitting streak that beat Paterno's 409 career victories at one school.

Joe's record for bowl wins is also pretty safe. Joe has 24. I think Steve Spurrier has the most of any active coach at 11. Saban & Meyer both have 8.
 
Great info. Thanks. Another way of looking at it is the fact that Joe has fewer than half of Penn State's all-time wins. Penn State was rather successful before Joe took the helm.
 
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Another great way of looking at is by Coaching Administration because it is legendary Head Coaches that establish dominant winning traditions after all, the simple "name" does not create wins - it's the Head Coach at the end of the day (Bud Wilkerson at Oklahoma, Bear Bryant at Bama, Darrell Royal at Texas, etc....). By sheer coincidence Rip Engle came to PSU in 1950 -- during Rip Engle's tenure, PSU was 104-48-4 which was #14 in the country during that tenure ('Ole Miss was #1 during the period at 128-33-9 believe it or not). PSU's next coach was of course "The Great Joseph Vincent Paterno" to use Coach Franklin's description (1965-2011). PSU was 410-139-3 during these seasons #3 in the country (UNL was #1 at 442-120-5). In other words, Coach Franklin is following two CFB Hall of Fame Coaching Selections who combined to make PSU the #3 winningest program in the country during their back-to-back tenures, 1950 - 2011, PSU was 514-187-7 (Oklahoma was #1 during this span at 541-169-12 primarily off the back of the coaching tandem of Bud Wilkerson and Barry Switzer).

In other words, Coach Franklin understands he has some big shoes to fill but he seems to be a very good "student of the game" in terms of understanding how they established those exception dominant winning traditions.....and the #1 way they created these results was by sticking to the "inputs" (results are not inputs) of core values, principles and process (those things that our uniforms have come to represent - the way football has always been played in Pennsylvania....."with integrity". You practice as hard as you can every practice.....you play as hard as you can every game, every play - "Black Shoes, Basic Blues, No Names, ALL GAME") - in other words, the other team is going to get your best effort every play to the final whistle regardless of score or anything else because that is your OBLIGATION to your "name" [e.g., your family and yourself], your teammates and the uniform you are representing [e.g., your school]. Coach Franklin understands PSU's Tradition -- Success With Honor and Integrity - Coach Franklin understands the tradition of "Pennsylvania Football" and the precepts of how it is played - he grew up in Pennsylvania and played both High School and College Football in Pennsylvania. Given his humility, ability to recruit and coach, I think he has learned the lessons well of what coaches like Joe Paterno and Rip Engle could teach him and has the potential to do great things at PSU. I was told by a very wise and brilliant person a long, long time ago that if you don't retain your humility, and you begin to drink your own cool-aide [he was referring to arrogance, narcissism and hubris], you will not realize your ultimate potential to do great things because the key to self-improvement and 'getting better' at anything, including being a good person, is remaining humble and understanding that you can always get better if you remain humble and retain the "belief" that you can be better. In other words, it's all about "attitude" and being confident, but grateful and humble (because all of our talents were a gift - something we were given and have an obligation to realize the potential of those gifts - not something we created) which is the diametric opposite attitude of arrogance, narcissism and hubris even if the talent level is identical. "Toughness" and "Determination" to be the best we can be is the first attitude - the attitude of "true champions" - the end never justifies the means; the means [e.g., the "inputs"] are always paramount...."it's how you play, not whether you win or lose". The latter attitude above when it is practiced by talented people generally results in a "win regardless of cost" attitude....IOW, "the ends do justify the means"....cheating is okay as long as it results in "winning" or what I perceive to be in my self-interest's "winning". As I've said before, the "culture problem" at PSU never resided within the Football Program, it resides with zero-integrity, moral-hypocrites that took up residence in the "Executive Committee of the Board of Thieves, Liars, Charlatans and Whores".
Well said, makes me proud to be a life long fan and alumnus.
 
Gee, what a wonderful "first post" ever on this message board as a guest. If this is typical of the useless bereft of content type of posts you are going to contribute, why don't you limit it to your own board rather than prove what a classless idiot you are as a guest?
Just adding a pic to the OP showing the #1 team on his list.
 
It's much more likely that somebody will beat DiMagio's 56 game hitting streak that beat Paterno's 409 career victories at one school.

Joe's record for bowl wins is also pretty safe. Joe has 24. I think Steve Spurrier has the most of any active coach at 11. Saban & Meyer both have 8.

Agreed. I hadn't given it much thought, but I checked meyer's and saban's win totals a few months ago and saw they were nowhere close to Joe. Obviously I knew they weren't knocking on the door of 409, but I hadn't realized just how far back they were of the legend from Brooklyn. :)
 
Good question, Bushwood. What is the "modern era" of college football? I suggest that it began in 1964 when the rules were changed ushering in the era of two platoon football. That was the first year that All-American teams included both offensive and defensive squads.
 
I look at Post WW2 as the modern era. Anything prior to that was kinda like club sports for many universities. Colleges were a little elitist prior to that. The doors were opened for most avg. americans after WW2. Unfortunately, minorities took longer to
integrate into college football in many areas. I know JVP and Bear have more wins. But, Bud Wilkinson is the kind of the godfather of post-WW2 with his innovations and early acceptance of african-americans at a southern school. Bent the rules for sure. But, he was a heckuva man and coach.
 
Good question, Bushwood. What is the "modern era" of college football? I suggest that it began in 1964 when the rules were changed ushering in the era of two platoon football. That was the first year that All-American teams included both offensive and defensive squads.

Okay, so if you prefer that definition, that would correspond almost perfectly with the past 50 years (see list attached in OP). Some use the date of 1936 as it is the advent of the "National Media Polls", the AP, and the "MNC" Crowning. One of the interesting things about this is that it really doesn't matter if you use the last 50 years as you argue or if you go back to the advent of the MNC in 1936, the names that dominate the list are the same. The only list that is radically different is the "early decades" of CFB which were not national in any way, including schedules, they were very, very regional (again, take a look at the list 1869-1935 below - you'll see it is very different in terms of names then the last 50 years or 1936 - Present, which largely have the same names):

1936 - Present:
  1. Okie 663
  2. Bama 622
  3. Ahia State 619 (t3)
  4. Texas 619 (t3)
  5. The Pennsylvania State University 612
  6. Nebraska 611
  7. ND 601 (t7)
  8. Tennessee (t7)
  9. scUM 596
  10. Georgia 589 (t10)
  11. USC 589 (t10)
1869-1935:
  1. Yale 461
  2. University of Pennsylvania 437
  3. Harvard 428
  4. Princeton 418
  5. scUM 319
  6. Lafayette 302
  7. Villanova 293
  8. Dartmouth 286
  9. ND 281
  10. Cornell 407
I would argue that it doesn't much matter whether you look at the period 1936 to Present or the last 50 Years as the "modern era" of College Football in terms of which teams were dominant because the same teams largely dominated both periods.....teams which are by and large very different than those teams which dominated the first half of College Football (small private schools on the East Coast, especially the Ivy League, dominated College Football the first 6 decades of college football, while "large" public, often times State-related, institutions have dominated college football for the better part of the last 8 decades
 
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