My idea to return college sports to students.
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Student tickets are already well under market value as evidenced by how quickly they sell out, and how they are able to fetch over face value on the secondary market…not really any reason to make them free, as that would make it even tougher for those who want them most to get them.
My son attends a mid-major. All athletic events are free for students with ID including football.
Get rid of the athletic fee. Keep student tickets being free if the games are off campus, or if you want students to pay then don't play on campus. Stop making the players be students too. Just pay them what they're worth and stop the student-athlete pretense.
But there may be a "student athletic fee," or whatever they call it, in your son's tuition.
These college kids nowadays buy Starbucks daily and use $1,000 iphones. I do not see poverty on campus.
My activity fee coveted all sports and was about $40/term. Why should students be forced to pay the salaries of players? Bullspit.
How many kids on campus this year do you think missed out on football games due to the cost of the ticket (the face value cost that is)?
And the great thing is that if cost is an issue, there are all sorts of opportunities on football Saturdays to make $ and be part of the experience.
They aren’t “forced” to…however, they have the opportunity to buy a ticket for well below market value if they’d like to attend….not to mention of course that they aren’t paying their “salaries”.
The nominal fee that is charged for basketball certainly isn’t hurting attendance…had tickets been free this season, I doubt you would have seen much if any change.
I don't know what nominal is. Making them free should not make much difference then to the bottom line but could put more fannies in the seats. There is reason to be optimistic about b-ball. Why not encourage the students to support their team.
They were $5/game in the mid-90s, and are cheaper than that today (in 21-22, they were just over $2/game…do you think that keeps anyone at all from going, especially when there are benefits that offset a lot of that minimal fee).
I went to PSU from 85-89. Natty years for football. Neither me nor my friends knew what basketball was (figuratively) or cared. I attended one game in Rec Hall and it was free. That was my fault but there was no juice around bball at the time. I got into it long after I graduated.
According to gopsu, 11 student tickets cost $50 for the 22-23 season. Show up with an ID and get in. Why make it a pain in the butt, just show up.
Because $4-something a game adds up I guess and somebody has to show a gain on the sheets.
It is the principal. College sports are for the students, not the professionals that we have made the players. I am not the only one sick about the new professional league, the NCAA. No one goes to swimming meets. Can you imagine NIL for swimmers? LMAOROFL or baseball at PSU with few fans and little success?
In football and basketball in all the large conferences when was it that the players were not professionals? I can't remember back that far.
Why not offer the upper seats at the BJC (that are usually empty) to students for free and they can pay if they wanna sit lower
Im sure they’d rather not open and staff those sections for 10 kids to sit in them.
If you get rid of the athletic fee at the D-I Level then it will trickle down.
Lower D-1, D-II, and D-III couldn't survive without the student fee.
Lower D-1, D-II, and D-III couldn't survive without the student fee.
I'm quite sure...the cost of tickets is not a barrier for getting students to show up. Over the past two seasons, the average ticket price was just over $3. In 2023 (and with the Penn State student population), that cost isn't keeping anyone away. As I mentioned, they were $5/game over 20 years ago, and that price didn't discourage a single person that I knew from going to games that was interested (and that was at a time when PSU students were living on much tighter budgets than you'll see today).
There's a disconnect here. The money raised for NIL is private money, not public money or the schools. I fail to see how the efforts to accumulate private funds to pay players has anything to do with how the institutions charge students for admission.
the ticket prices have nothing to do with student attendance at the BJC.
more than anything, it is the location. Only East Halls is close and it is as far away as you can get from downtown. so on a Wednesday night in January when it is 10 degrees, nobody wants to walk over there to one of the windiest spots on campus. that's really a huge part of it
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Hey white bread. It’s not 1963. PSU was on national TV maybe once a year. Revenue came from ticket sales and Levi Lamb contributions. Tuition was $525.
Wrong, Mary claimed in a previous thread that she paid thousands for tuition back in the 60s.
My tuition was 1450/ term for all expenses years, about $4500 total. My mom and dad both worked for the railroad. Could never be done today. I owed about $5000 when I graduated.
@Marylovesthelions
In 68, I believe my tuition was around $360 a term (not including expensive technical books, labs, housing, meal ticket, etc), so around $4,500 for the four yrs., so Mary is right.
Tuition was based on Tri semesters per yr, no two.
PENN STATE UNIVERSITY COSTS IN 1955 AND BEHREND INFO
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| Pages from a 1955 brochure "Introducing Penn State" |
If the price of a college education doesn't give you sticker shot yet, just look back at this 1955 brochure from Penn State University in State College, PA. The minimum cost per semester at that time was $461 for male PA residents, and $462.50 for female PA residents. And there were some pretty strict rules to follow: "All freshmen are required to live in University residence halls and take their meals in University dining halls. All undergraduate women are required to live on campus at all times. After the first year, men students are privileged to live in fraternity houses or rooming houses not on campus."
Penn State had six centers that offered undergraduate courses: Altoona, DuBois, Behrend (Erie), Hazleton, Ogontz (Philadelphia) and Pottsville.
Penn State also offered associate degrees in Drafting and Design Technology and in Electrical Technology at: Allentown, Altoona, DuBois, Erie, Hazleton, York, McKeesport, Ogontz, Pottsville, Scranton and Wilkes-Barre
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@Marylovesthelions
Wonderful digital of the 67' year book...
Link: https://digital.libraries.psu.edu/digital/collection/lavie/id/44506/
Wonderful digital of the 67' year book...
Link: https://digital.libraries.psu.edu/digital/collection/lavie/id/44506/
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Hank you. Priceless.@Marylovesthelions
Wonderful digital of the 67' year book...
Link: https://digital.libraries.psu.edu/digital/collection/lavie/id/44506/
