Isn't that what you said about the Paterno's case? You know, the one where they've sued the University for slander. The one that didn't get laughed out of court, and to the contrary, is knee-deep in discovery two years later?
NCAA fights back in defamation suit brought by Paterno estate
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Isn't that what you said about the Paterno's case? You know, the one where they've sued the University for slander. The one that didn't get laughed out of court, and to the contrary, is knee-deep in discovery two years later?
OMG you are really stupid James. You weren't always stupid. When did you become a sycophantic lummox?
How many defamation suits have you tried, Carny? I am guessing in the over/under is "none." I have only tried 2. Won 'em both. I thereafter settled several others, because the lawyers who might have fought the cases took a long look at the record. Funny--the way you talk, you could have been one of those lawyers in the cases I tried. Both of them were pretty dismissive right up until the verdict was read. I daresay the Paterno family's attorneys are likely pretty good at figuring out whether they have a case or not. So, given the choice of whether to believe them, or a broken down knob-polisher like yourself, I will go with them.
If by saying "snowballs chance in hell", you mean counting on someone to forfeit all common sense, then yeah.
bwifan
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Uh Jim.... you didn't answer his question.... Please answer his question and stop deflecting.
LOL. Anyone notice that he came in after the fact and added the bolded sentence to his admission that the BOT commissioned, influenced and published the Freeh report without having read it.
So, now we know who to really blame: the faculty. It was the faculty who told the BOT not to read the report and to publish it immediately. In the world of CR66 this is sufficient to absolve the BOT of any responsibility for their reckless, tortious actions.
bwifan
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Hey I didn't realize James was a board member with his good friend Dave Joyner at the Schreyer Honors College....
The Paterno Estate hasn't sued Penn State for commercial disparagement (which I think is the term you meant to use), only the NCAA (it's at p. 48 of the Second Amended Complaint).
The only claim against Penn State is for breach of contract on the theory that the Paterno Estate was a third party beneficiary under the consent decree and was owed a duty of good faith and fair dealing and Erickson violated this duty by agreeing to the consent decree. This claim starts at p. 38 of the Second Amended Complaint.
co.centre.pa.us/centreco/media/upload/PATERNO%20VS%20NCAA%20SECOND%20AMENDED%20COMPLAINT.pdf
im confused...if the ncaa is asking for all of the freeh docs from the paterno's what is stopping the paternos from getting all the freeh information from PSU? wouldn't they then have to turn them over?!?
Well, that's a lie and you know it. The decisions they made were to protect themselves at the expense of the university. Their self-interest cost Penn State hundreds of millions of dollars and the meter is still running.
Speaking of which, I'm not a fan of Lanny Davis, or anything, but why didn't the board take his advice and mend fences with the Paternos? That sure seems like it would have been in the best of interest of the university. Instead, they ignored the advice of their expensive, renowned crisis expert and paid Freeh to defame Paterno. How'd that serve Penn State's interests?
It is pretty standard discovery stuff. You basically ask for everything that your opposing party believes in any way supports any of their claims. So, for example, if I claim that I was defamed by demlion I would expect that demlion would ask me to list all communications that I believe in any way defamed me, and to including who heard/read the communications, when the communications took place etc, etc . . . The responses typically end up pretty generic so it is not that worthwhile in the long run, but the main point to make sure there is nothing unknown out there.
Why are you proud that the University would rather drag this out legally in the hopes that the Paterno estate runs out of money rather than find out what really happened? Why would anyone, without something to hide, want this outcome?
Indeed, cost/benefit decisions are made by everyone, including Bill Gates, on a daily basis. That said, your observation does not refute chrisrn1965's post.
Your 1st sentence is mostly correct. However, there are some that know a good bit about the financial situation of the Paterno family. There are those that know more about their financials than do I, but from what I do know I feel very confident in stating that chrisrn1965 is correct (and that's not even factoring in that lawsuits like this are generally conducted on an upfront fee and a contingency basis by the lawyers).
Every person/family does have a financial tipping point. If the Paternos wanted to own all of Manhattan (for example), then they would certainly run into theirs. Their lawsuit is not something that will bring them anywhere close to their financial tipping point.
The Paterno Family is seeking the truth. They have a pretty good idea of what it is, which is different than the narrative that was expressed by the PA OAG in Nov. 2011, the PSU BOT over 2011 and 2012 (and since then), Louie Freeh in July 2012, and Mark Emmert in July 2012. They also indicated early on in the lawsuit that if they earn any compensation as a result of the lawsuit, that they would donate that to charity. I fail to see how announcing they will donate any proceeds to PSU (which is a party in the lawsuit) would prove anything about the family's desire to seek the truth. You really lost me on that statement.
Initially, CR66 said the Paternos had no case. Now, he's grandstanding about where they should donate the proceeds. #winning
The BOT and the vermin that follow them have been donating their winnings to the charity of their choice---themselves and their friends---for decades. Imagine how shocked they will be when the Paterno's really don't keep any of the money.
No wonder Carnes looks constipated in that picture of him.
No wonder Carnes looks constipated in that picture of him.
He is a washed up wind bag that struggles with the fact that he is now irrelevant. Some people tolerate the sycophantic lummox to get more of his money.
I love your rationale here. It is a very probable scenario. Must give serious thought to clicking on that "Like" button!
Is it possible that the NCAA wants the Paterno family to produce information from Freeh so that PSU eventually must produce it thereby exposing trustees as the culprits in the cover up and getting the NCAA off the hook because after all, the NCAA was the one requesting the Freeh information now, so how could they have known the Freeh lies then?
Kind of thought the same thing myself. This could turn into a WWF "Texas Strap/Cage" Match in a real hurry.
This is mostly, IMHO, because the Paterno's love Penn State and really don't want to go after Penn State except where they have to do so to get to the truth. This part of the complaint would allow them to open up/get discovery on any record of dealings that PSU had with the NCAA.
