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Basketball NCAA TOURNAMENT MEGATHREAD (PLEASE KEEP NON-PSU BASKETBALL TALK HERE)

Edey wasn't the problem yesterday. He didn't have his best game but the tournament is all about matchups. Edey had to try to guard someone 6'7" that drew him away from the basket and then FDU literally refused to cover some of the Purdue shooters and they couldn't hit any threes. The freshman guards choked. Not saying Edey will be a great pro but yesterday wasn't remotely on him. Painter should get some heat though as he didn't adjust at all.
Correct. They were in the double bonus for 6 1/2 minutes and Edey wasn’t even getting any touches on the block. every possession has to go through him in those last four minutes. It didn’t make sense how many three-pointers they were shooting.
 
Edey wasn't the problem yesterday. He didn't have his best game but the tournament is all about matchups. Edey had to try to guard someone 6'7" that drew him away from the basket and then FDU literally refused to cover some of the Purdue shooters and they couldn't hit any threes. The freshman guards choked. Not saying Edey will be a great pro but yesterday wasn't remotely on him. Painter should get some heat though as he didn't adjust at all.
A #1 seed should never have a match up problem against a #16 seed. That’s why #16 seeds have a record of 2-150 in the tournament.
 
FDU out hustled Purdue. They wanted it more.

There was several bad calls that went against FDU and they still overcame.

The call they overturned on the out of bounds play for example….the reason the FDU player dropped the ball is because the Purdue player smacked his arm. Should have been a foul. There was the 3 that Purdue made to stay in it where there was a clear offensive foul by the player that passed the ball….he was out of control and ran over the FDU guy. There were others as well….
 
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painter is terrible. why isn't that national player of the year getting the ball every play in a close game against the worst team in the tournament?
 
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A #1 seed should never have a match up problem against a #16 seed. That’s why #16 seeds have a record of 2-150 in the tournament.
UVa lost by 20 the one time it happened. When you shoot as poorly as Purdue did from outside you aren't going to beat anyone...and yes when you have that much more talent you should be able to overcome it however we're going to see more 15s and 16s win in this era of basketball. See FDU and how they used the portal.
 
FDU out hustled Purdue. They wanted it more.

There was several bad calls that went against FDU and they still overcame.

The call they overturned on the out of bounds play for example….the reason the FDU player dropped the ball is because the Purdue player smacked his arm. Should have been a foul. There was the 3 that Purdue made to stay in it where there was a clear offensive foul by the player that passed the ball….he was out of control and ran over the FDU guy. There were others as well….
There were several bad calls against both teams if we're being honest but yes officiating is never an excuse and FDU absolutely wanted it more.
 
UVa lost by 20 the one time it happened. When you shoot as poorly as Purdue did from outside you aren't going to beat anyone...and yes when you have that much more talent you should be able to overcome it however we're going to see more 15s and 16s win in this era of basketball. See FDU and how they used the portal.
why did purdue take more than 20 threes?

lost to a 15 seed last year and a 13 the year before that

the problem is their coach. No wonder Shrewsberry wanted out of there
 
Eddy had the ball 3-5 times in that last 6 minute stretch, either off a pass or a rebound. FD stripped him or beat him for the rebound multiple times.

Could they have tried harder to feed him the ball? Maybe. But FD forced the guards to beat them or the refs to call fouls.

You can't always overcome cold shooting. And Purdue was probably a very weak 1 seed.
 
why did purdue take more than 20 threes?

lost to a 15 seed last year and a 13 the year before that

the problem is their coach. No wonder Shrewsberry wanted out of there
Purdue took that many threes because FDU dared them too. They were leaving their shooters wide open and collapsing on Edey

That 13-seed loss is hard to criticize--they won 3 games. The other two were bad.

Painter didn't (or couldn't) adjust which was the problem. I don't think that's why Shrew wanted out though.
 
Purdue took that many threes because FDU dared them too. They were leaving their shooters wide open and collapsing on Edey

That 13-seed loss is hard to criticize--they won 3 games. The other two were bad.

Painter didn't (or couldn't) adjust which was the problem. I don't think that's why Shrew wanted out though.
Painter doesn't adjust. not sure he is really that good. good recruiter but failed to surround Edey with other players. the rest of the team looks like the level of player you could find anywhere
 
FDU won their play-in game by 23--I'm not surprised they hung around but I'm surprised none of Purdue's guards could step up to make a shot and survive.

I still think the play-in game helps teams. Arizona State probably should have beat TCU and Pitt won.
 
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Painter doesn't adjust. not sure he is really that good. good recruiter but failed to surround Edey with other players. the rest of the team looks like the level of player you could find anywhere
I'm not disputing that--I said Painter failed to adjust earlier. Hard when none of your guys can hit an open shot though. Loyer was the only one guard that didn't look terrified. Smith looked like he should have still been in HS, FDU didn't even pretend Newman or Jenkins were worth covering and the Gillis (not a guard) looked like he was about to cry any time he had the ball in his hands. They were 2-18 I think outside of Loyer from 3--never going to win a game when that happens.
 
I'm not disputing that--I said Painter failed to adjust earlier. Hard when none of your guys can hit an open shot though. Loyer was the only one guard that didn't look terrified. Smith looked like he should have still been in HS, FDU didn't even pretend Newman or Jenkins were worth covering and the Gillis (not a guard) looked like he was about to cry any time he had the ball in his hands. They were 2-18 I think outside of Loyer from 3--never going to win a game when that happens.
why are the players you mentioned afraid to take shots? problem goes back to the coach
 
why are the players you mentioned afraid to take shots? problem goes back to the coach
Because they weren't hitting them--that's not coaching. Smith, for example, is a freshman in his first tournament game--the setting was too big for him. I can't even say Painter should have benched them because they only play 9 regularly and outside Edey and Loyer none were producing.

Did you watch the game at all?
 
Edey wasn't the problem yesterday. He didn't have his best game but the tournament is all about matchups. Edey had to try to guard someone 6'7" that drew him away from the basket and then FDU literally refused to cover some of the Purdue shooters and they couldn't hit any threes. The freshman guards choked. Not saying Edey will be a great pro but yesterday wasn't remotely on him. Painter should get some heat though as he didn't adjust at all.
He is literally the slowest player I can recall, and I also question his strength given how often the ball was ripped from his hands. In the NBA the athleticism is amplified, so I see him as a bust, and any team would be foolish to waste a high pick on him. You can't coach up his inherent issues.
 
He is literally the slowest player I can recall, and I also question his strength given how often the ball was ripped from his hands. In the NBA the athleticism is amplified, so I see him as a bust, and any team would be foolish to waste a high pick on him. You can't coach up his inherent issues.
reminds me of Yao Ming but slightly less athletic. i think he will play for a while
 
In the NBA the athleticism is amplified, so I see him as a bust, and any team would be foolish to waste a high pick on him.

He's not going to transform a team into a playoff contender merely by showing up. The issue becomes what is expected of him. NBA just doesn't utilize the post game like it did 15-20 years ago. Can he get faster?
 
More like Gheorghe Muresan. Yao was actually pretty good.
He's far more athletic and Muresan. I'm not saying he should be a lottery pick but I think he'll be in the NBA for 8-10 years. He won't be asked to do much in the NBA. Can be a 12/10/5 guy. Nice role guy if surrounded by three point shooters.
 
He's not going to transform a team into a playoff contender merely by showing up. The issue becomes what is expected of him. NBA just doesn't utilize the post game like it did 15-20 years ago. Can he get faster?
He’s a late 1st round pick or maybe a 2nd. He’ll be a situation/bench player in the NBA but has skills and is likely to play for a while.

Boban (also 7’4”) makes Eddy look like prime Russell Westbrook in athleticism, and he sticks around the NBA.
 
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He's far more athletic and Muresan. I'm not saying he should be a lottery pick but I think he'll be in the NBA for 8-10 years. He won't be asked to do much in the NBA. Can be a 12/10/5 guy. Nice role guy if surrounded by three point shooters.
Agree, big George was a stiff, along with other really big guys like Bol and Boban.

Eddy seems to be most comparable to Rick Smits, the old Pacers center, who was 7’4” as well. We had solid post moves and shot, but wasn’t a stud.
 
Watching the NW game…how can a D-1 basketball player be a 47% free throw shooter? Ridiculous.
 
Is there some rule stating that announcers are not allowed to say on whom a foul was called? Guy just said ‘foul on the other side of the court’ and never said who. Watching our games, about half the time they never said who it was on.

Sometimes it is obvious and not needed. But they often don’t say who it was when it is not obvious. Even later on games when foul count on a player is pretty important.
 
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Is there some rule stating that announcers are not allowed to say on whom a foul was called? Guy just said ‘foul on the other side of the court’ and never said who. Watching our games, about half the time they never said who it was on.

Sometimes it is obvious and not needed. But they often don’t say who it was when it is not obvious. Even later on games when foul count on a player is pretty important.
it's pretty annoying
 
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Is there some rule stating that announcers are not allowed to say on whom a foul was called? Guy just said ‘foul on the other side of the court’ and never said who. Watching our games, about half the time they never said who it was on.

Sometimes it is obvious and not needed. But they often don’t say who it was when it is not obvious. Even later on games when foul count on a player is pretty important.
Really, really frustrating.
 
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Ignore the BTN claims about B1G bb being one of the best leagues. Only one team is in the top 16 teams in America
This is who we are as a league. Save the platitudes until after the playoffs. Purdue should save the travel expenses and forfeit every year.
 
Ignore the BTN claims about B1G bb being one of the best leagues. Only one team is in the top 16 teams in America
This is who we are as a league. Save the platitudes until after the playoffs. Purdue should save the travel expenses and forfeit every year.
The Big Ten is one of the best leagues…a handful of games in March doesn’t change that fact.
 
The Big Ten is one of the best leagues…a handful of games in March doesn’t change that fact.
Yes it does. When you consistently fail on the biggest stage, that defines where you stand with other leagues. All I said was save the bragging until you prove it. Be less satisfied until you win on the biggest stage. Be humble and honest.
 
The Big Ten is one of the best leagues…a handful of games in March doesn’t change that fact.
Not in the NCAA tournament where it matters. 1 NC since 1990. Not good and way underperforming when it counts.

ACC has countless national champions since 1990. SEC and Big East have many more. Even Big 12 and Pac 12 have pieced together more than 1 in over 30 years.
 
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Yes it does. When you consistently fail on the biggest stage, that defines where you stand with other leagues. All I said was save the bragging until you prove it. Be less satisfied until you win on the biggest stage. Be humble and honest.
the main problem is that the b1g officials allow a style of basketball that nobody else plays. it is practically tackle basketball. then they get to the tournament and can't adjust. if the big ten would stop allowing and encouraging this style of play their chances in the tournament would be much better
 
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The Big Ten is one of the best leagues…a handful of games in March doesn’t change that fact.
While I wont say its not a good league, I'll agree with the others that it is overrated. Tourney wins matter, especially in the eyes of the average Joe fan, it is not like we are losing to a bunch of all time teams either.

I think that the FDU coach had a point, everyone in the Big plays similarly (outside of PSU) and untill they get more teams to the second week people will say this league is overrated.
 
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the main problem is that the b1g officials allow a style of basketball that nobody else plays. it is practically tackle basketball. then they get to the tournament and can't adjust. if the big ten would stop allowing and encouraging this style of play their chances in the tournament would be much better
Who are these “big ten officials”, and how are they different than the officials doing NCAA tournament games?

They are the same officials.
 
Not in the NCAA tournament where it matters. 1 NC since 1990. Not good and way underperforming when it counts.

ACC has countless national champions since 1990. SEC and Big East have many more. Even Big 12 and Pac 12 have pieced together more than 1 in over 30 years.
And yet we’ve had how many teams in the National Title game? It’s not like there is some systemic issue.

This year, the conference had incredible depth, but was lacking great teams at the top. The Big 12 was absolutely loaded and still only has one more team alive.
 
While I wont say its not a good league, I'll agree with the others that it is overrated. Tourney wins matter, especially in the eyes of the average Joe fan, it is not like we are losing to a bunch of all time teams either.

I think that the FDU coach had a point, everyone in the Big plays similarly (outside of PSU) and untill they get more teams to the second week people will say this league is overrated.
Amazing how football and basketball paralle each other. Both sports in the B2G are more about power and strength while other leagues emphasize speed and quickness. I get it in football as the weather is a huge factor in how the game is played.

But why should basketball be so inclined? What is it in the personality of the northern tier that precipitates this style ? It is the working class, steel mill, coal and iron mine mentality? Blue collar immigrant population? The ‘you win with hard work’ attitude?

Interesting how sports can be so affected by the personality of the region.
 
the main problem is that the b1g officials allow a style of basketball that nobody else plays. it is practically tackle basketball. then they get to the tournament and can't adjust. if the big ten would stop allowing and encouraging this style of play their chances in the tournament would be much better
Not as much officials but the Tom Izzo mindset. He is the model for the conference when it comes to basketball, thats how his teams play.
 
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